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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11682
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Posted - 2013.08.30 13:46:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Seems Eve-O is back to screaming for someone (but not me, for erm, just someone, kk) to ruin the CFC's empire so they can leap around and pretend the schadenfreude they get from it is actual, meaningful happiness.
Or at least that's what I assume when someone makes over 30 posts about it in a day. Uh oh... some internal strife?! Fight fight fight! He was talking about you. What internal strife is there in him calling you out? Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11682
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Posted - 2013.08.30 13:49:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Joepopo wrote:Just popping to remind all that the CFC is a big ball of blues.
Our empire in null sec is the most stable, most safe place in all 0.0.
TNT has the record for the longest sov and Goonswarm has been in deklein for close to 4 years now.
This is why the CFC rental program is the best available in all 0.0. There is nowhere in space where exploration is as safe and profitable as here. But, but... ... War? We weren't invaded lately. I have no idea what war could prevent our renter from doing their business in our sovereign space. If you are refering about high sec logistic and people declaring war to pop us in jita, we have a group of dedicated people in NPC corp taking care of all of this. Why goons continue to go to Jita on in-corp characters is beyond me. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11682
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Posted - 2013.08.30 13:50:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Rhes wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Nobody cares to invest RL years into forming the "Goons destroyer alliance" any more Untrue. The N3 coalition was formed to destroy goons. That's what progodlegend said, but apparently in their last fight against us, NCdot was only there because They were there because there was a war on, and wars mean action. They said it themselves, that Fountain was where the action was and accordingly that's why they were there. They wanted a target rich environment and other content elements that a war readily provides. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
735
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Posted - 2013.08.30 14:16:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Harry Forever wrote: ganking me with a hauler, thats something new, looking forward to that
You mean like the hauler that provided the tackle on your 2xWCS Cov-ops loss? you are not even on the killboard dude, maybe start playing, and your friend is even worse, 10 solo kills in 4 yeras, lol, i beat you both in the first first month Ad hominem is not appealing. What does it matter if he is on a killboard or not? That doesn't change the truth or falsehood of his statements. Whether he is or is not on a killboard, you were nonetheless tackled by a hauler and killed. Own it. And before you try to go all ad hominem on me, if you really wanna turn this into a pissing contest I had several times more kills in the month of July than you have had in your entire history. So listen up! Ad hominem is a fallacy for a reason. Attack the argument, not the person making it.
5 lines, all of them boring ... |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
735
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Posted - 2013.08.30 14:20:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Harry Forever wrote: ganking me with a hauler, thats something new, looking forward to that
You mean like the hauler that provided the tackle on your 2xWCS Cov-ops loss? Fun fact: very rarely are people convinced they are wrong by an argument, no matter how damning the evidence.
fun fact: there are people who do not understand **** ... |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
735
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Posted - 2013.08.30 14:47:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:bloodknight2 wrote:Harry Forever wrote: all what you told me I knew already from the web, why do you think I blocked most of the smartass?.
And yet, you haven't killed a single pvp ship. Oh sorry, i forgot. You killed a loki. Confirming that Loki was all Harry Forever and the other involved parties weren't even there.
confirming they were just lucky they did not blow up with that thing ... |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1384
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Posted - 2013.08.30 15:18:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:bloodknight2 wrote:Harry Forever wrote: all what you told me I knew already from the web, why do you think I blocked most of the smartass?.
And yet, you haven't killed a single pvp ship. Oh sorry, i forgot. You killed a loki. Confirming that Loki was all Harry Forever and the other involved parties weren't even there. confirming they were just lucky they did not blow up with that thing
Harry ISD closed your thread before you could ask them to do it for you.
Is this the start of harry the clown's failcascade ? Will people start blocking harry now ? Tune in for an epic new episode of harry the clown tomorrow and find out ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
227
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Posted - 2013.08.30 15:21:00 -
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Why pay for rent? If alliance can hold sov, why would it need renters? Something smells fishy here, and I think that Goons will have more problems in "rentin/holding" so much space. New CQ prototype |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
735
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:37:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:bloodknight2 wrote:Harry Forever wrote: all what you told me I knew already from the web, why do you think I blocked most of the smartass?.
And yet, you haven't killed a single pvp ship. Oh sorry, i forgot. You killed a loki. Confirming that Loki was all Harry Forever and the other involved parties weren't even there. confirming they were just lucky they did not blow up with that thing Harry ISD closed your thread before you could ask them to do it for you. Is this the start of harry the clown's failcascade ? Will people start blocking harry now ? Tune in for an epic new episode of harry the clown tomorrow and find out ...
you still going the clown road... after how many posts? must be over a hundred
I thought, man give him another chance, but nope... just keep posting the same thing
god I must have hurt your feelings deeply... honestly, get over it you ***** ... |
Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
57
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:42:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:fun fact: some people are not funny
Unlike your bio which is freaking hilarious:
Quote:The Song about King HighSec (by Tara Read)
Like rain upon the Mountain He came A Light among the darkest void His vessel alight in flaming heap glistening upon burning star.
His banner unfurled for all to see A mighty Bear of claw and sinew.
In Shadow his enemies cowered His light spread through word and fame For in the Darkness of VFK Came Goonswarm's dreadful bane. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
735
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:24:00 -
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Rhes wrote:Harry Forever wrote:fun fact: some people are not funny Unlike your bio which is freaking hilarious: Quote:The Song about King HighSec (by Tara Read)
Like rain upon the Mountain He came A Light among the darkest void His vessel alight in flaming heap glistening upon burning star.
His banner unfurled for all to see A mighty Bear of claw and sinew.
In Shadow his enemies cowered His light spread through word and fame For in the Darkness of VFK Came Goonswarm's dreadful bane.
cool huh, that was written at the day I started to open fire on mittanigrad, lucky you people got protected by CCP with an invulnerable station ... |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
120
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:31:00 -
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Like you would be able to do any damage to any of their stations... come on you child lol I disagree |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
735
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:35:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:Like you would be able to do any damage to any of their stations... come on you child lol
poor SKINE no kill since then... I should have shot you down that day, you suck ... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4255
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:36:00 -
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Rhes wrote:Harry Forever wrote:fun fact: some people are not funny Unlike your bio which is freaking hilarious: Quote:The Song about King HighSec (by Tara Read)
Like rain upon the Mountain He came A Light among the darkest void His vessel alight in flaming heap glistening upon burning star.
His banner unfurled for all to see A mighty Bear of claw and sinew.
In Shadow his enemies cowered His light spread through word and fame For in the Darkness of VFK Came Goonswarm's dreadful bane. It's pretty hilarious There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4255
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:37:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Why pay for rent? If alliance can hold sov, why would it need renters? Something smells fishy here, and I think that Goons will have more problems in "rentin/holding" so much space. N3 successfully destroyed GSF in the Fountain2013 war There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:51:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:Like you would be able to do any damage to any of their stations... come on you child lol poor SKINE no kill since then... I should have shot you down that day, you suck you shoot me down while I had to tell you what fleet warp was....? no im sorry i dont approve of this especially since none of your kills are actually against a pvp ship....................... however you are welcome to join my relaxing life in lowsec of exploration and messing around I disagree |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4255
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:01:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Rhes wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Nobody cares to invest RL years into forming the "Goons destroyer alliance" any more Untrue. The N3 coalition was formed to destroy goons. That's what progodlegend said, but apparently in their last fight against us, NCdot was only there because They were there because there was a war on, and wars mean action. They said it themselves, that Fountain was where the action was and accordingly that's why they were there. They wanted a target rich environment and other content elements that a war readily provides. Yeah turns out that destroying GSF is a pretty terrible excuse for existing. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
505
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:32:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:cool huh, that was written at the day I started to open fire on mittanigrad, lucky you people got protected by CCP with an invulnerable station Stations aren't invulnerable though... The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
12763
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:08:00 -
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TIL Lyris Nairn is the GSF forum posting backbone.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
461
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:31:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Joepopo wrote:Just popping to remind all that the CFC is a big ball of blues.
Our empire in null sec is the most stable, most safe place in all 0.0.
TNT has the record for the longest sov and Goonswarm has been in deklein for close to 4 years now.
This is why the CFC rental program is the best available in all 0.0. There is nowhere in space where exploration is as safe and profitable as here. But, but... ... War? We weren't invaded lately. I have no idea what war could prevent our renter from doing their business in our sovereign space. If you are refering about high sec logistic and people declaring war to pop us in jita, we have a group of dedicated people in NPC corp taking care of all of this.
Jita is a cesspool, and to be avoided at all costs. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
461
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:37:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:There needs to be another war soon. Peace makes for little reason to log in but to amass space money. Having the spoils of war is great, and everyone appreciates them; but, most of the fun in this curiously excellent spaceship sandbox is in the actual taking rather than in the having. Soooo go pick a fight. Attack a blue. Preferably one right next door. No need to worry about power projection, supply lines, hot drops... just all out brawl it down and see what happens. That should be exciting. Me, personally? Attack a blue? Awoxing doesn't do it for me. Neither does taking a day trip into nearby space. I have addressed this point several times in the thread. My complaint is not the lack of dudes to shoot, it is the lack of a dedicated campaign to consistently shoot a particular group of them and take their stuff. Small gangs and roaming ~wulfpax~ are not appealing at all to me.
Well, you mentioned an invasion, you mentioned a lack of prolonged content through combating for sovereignety (spelling)...
Your neighbors are ripe for just such a thing. Why on earth would you stand for "allies" in a game of conquest? "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
461
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:38:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Harry Forever wrote: ganking me with a hauler, thats something new, looking forward to that
You mean like the hauler that provided the tackle on your 2xWCS Cov-ops loss? you are not even on the killboard dude, maybe start playing, and your friend is even worse, 10 solo kills in 4 yeras, lol, i beat you both in the first first month Ad hominem is not appealing. What does it matter if he is on a killboard or not? That doesn't change the truth or falsehood of his statements. Whether he is or is not on a killboard, you were nonetheless tackled by a hauler and killed. Own it. And before you try to go all ad hominem on me, if you really wanna turn this into a pissing contest I had several times more kills in the month of July than you have had in your entire history. So listen up! Ad hominem is a fallacy for a reason. Attack the argument, not the person making it.
I like this guy! "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
461
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:39:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Don't you have your own forums that might be viewed by upper managment?
I mean there is nothing wrong telling GD, but I don't think it will acheive anything other than "Grrr Goons" posts. I am curious as to why you think only one party (GSF) needs to be addressed here. There are numerous other entities who might choose to be the aggressor against GSF, which a post on our internal forums would not address. Don't hedge.... If you want something, go get it! Start that war! GSF won't mind, they value the individual! One person going out and "starting a war" does not create a war. It just creates a headache for others.
Perhaps. Every war has always been started by one guy. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
461
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:41:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Osileon Yoshimeru wrote:tldr:
Just make some mock wars. Im sure you can sacrifice a few supers.
You said it yourself how spoils of war is great and all. Do some fleet training and burn some of that isk off while you wait for next war. You can try out new tactics and stuff you weren't really sure of doing during a real war. We could probably organize some intra-CFC brawls, but they would necessarily be limited in scope and size. Neither side of a mock war would want to fully escalate, because doing so depletes real assets which might at any time need to be marshaled against a real aggressor. You can understand why this is not an attractive option. Fully commit. Reset coalition. No "blues". You are goonswarm, act like it. Merely having potential targets does not make a war campaign.
Well, it does for some. The campaign could have a goal that appeals to everyone involved. I mean seriously... what lineman cares if you take the moons from fountain or not as long as their ship is replaced? Some people simply want chaos, to watch ships blow up, others want the ability to name the system themselves.
Some even like war simply so they can make up afterwards. Others might prefer a well oiled machine and want the fat trimmed off. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
461
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:41:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote: I am presently doing something about it: multibox mining while playing other games, until the next war.
Is it an acceptable substitute? "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
461
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:45:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Spergie Scrublord wrote:The OP, a member of the most powerful alliance in the game - the one that openly and proudly scams, schemes, backstabs and does whatever it can at any opportunity - should truly go down in the history books as the best example ever of the worst case of EVE Online's First World Problems. S/he is no doubt here on the forums presenting her case to subtly prepare us for TheMittani's next big declaration of whatever he has planned. Just a hunch, because this overblown piece of ridiculous writing smells of -- something. I am not an official source for Goonswarm, nor do I write for TMC, nor am I otherwise (to my knowledge) a mouthpiece. I would love for you to be right, though! To have some new offensive announced within the next few days would make me happy as a clam. Quote:If not, nay I suggest to the OP that making an alt and sending it to Syndicate, where it is constant war with no reasons needed, might relieve her boredom.
Hell, for a serious reality check, drop out of Goonswarm and play the game like the pubbies do. ***gaaaaaaasp*** You may not be aware, but GSF actually has a pretty good presence in Syndicate. Meh, they'd hot dropped us over on moonies territory a few times, and we've hotdropped them. The euro gsf's are pretty cool guys. They actually "gf" and and chat, not just sperg random memes and links. Having led fleets in all time zones, I agree that Euro TZ is generally pretty civil.
Yea, it's strange at times how much different and diverse the same team could be. Almost like it's not "grr goons" or something =P
"But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
461
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:46:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Sol Kal'orr wrote:If you want a war, start a war. I don't think I'm allowed to willfully start a diplomatic incident. Who the hell is going to tell you no? Are you a yesman? I play EVE with goons. I wouldn't play EVE at all if I wasn't in Goonfleet/swarm/waffe/platoon. There are other games with other goon guilds that would be more fun than playing EVE without goons. So, yeah. I'm a company man, a yes man, whatever you want to call someone invested in a group.
Well to be honest it did maybe come off a bit strong... but I was feeding into your "goading a fight" mentality =P.
Nothing wrong with going with the tide however. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
461
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:48:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:
Civil war would require there to be a cohesive faction within GSF or the CFC which is loyal to itself but disloyal to the whole. While such a faction is undoubtedly possible, I have not heard of it; moreover, if such a faction did exist it would have to be better than the best diplomatic and counterintelligence teams in the game at diplomacy and counterintelligence. That's a tall order. There arises an issue that the fledgling faction would most likely be snuffed out, its instigators and collaborators excised before it could develop into a large movement. Such an entity would have to materialize out of whole cloth, which is honestly unreasonable.
I think the renting direction is a good indicator. Separate the sheep from the wolves. Fond out who was truly Goons when Goons were Goons. And who are the isk whores. Besides, what better entity than the GSF for such a "tall order"? Most goons, including myself, were not "truly Goons when Goons were Goons." The entire argument between renting or not was pretty effectively silenced by some regdate elitism. And it's a good point: most of the people who were crying about "true goon" culture were not even playing the game back when goonfleet was founded. I personally have no opinion on the matter of renters. But we are going to do it, and so I support it.
Well, I like hypocrisy and the warm velvety embrace it can create when you see it for what it is (not calling you a hypocrite) and having the elitism show on public forums that call people NOT goons "pubbies" and then see them go from anti-renter to "oh **** we better do it or we're broke" has always been a feeling of mirth.
It's irony at it's best. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
461
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:49:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Joepopo wrote:Just popping to remind all that the CFC is a big ball of blues.
Our empire in null sec is the most stable, most safe place in all 0.0.
TNT has the record for the longest sov and Goonswarm has been in deklein for close to 4 years now.
This is why the CFC rental program is the best available in all 0.0. There is nowhere in space where exploration is as safe and profitable as here. GSF and the CFC have some really great people who go to extensive lengths to maintain our space empire. You could not ask for a better friend or a more reasonable landlord.
Welllll..... I think your "marketing" department has tainted that notion to be fair. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:53:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Mayhaw Morgan wrote:Andski wrote:You're clearly not up to speed so let me help you get there: IT Alliance, the NC and SoCo all went down despite those things all existing and giving them what you seem to believe is an insurmountable advantage All I know is that I'm not going to organize 10,000 people (many of which I can't stand) to lead a crusade in an internet spaceship game to defeat an opponent I am, for the most part, indifferent towards. Not unless somebody wants to pay me real currency. Then you blatantly do not understand the mindset of people who lead alliances, coalitions, or fleets. Or for that matter, guilds, raids, platoons, or whatever other collective groups appear in other games. People like to lead, even when it is leading to do a thing they might not have a personal investment in, because being a leader is fun. Being able to look at a map, or a DPS chart, or a battle report, or an Arena Rating, or some purple pixels, or a flashy title over your elf's head, and say, "I did that," is nice. Being able to be provably good at your chosen hobby, to be able to laugh at scrubs like yourself and say, "hate me because I am better than you," and point to your dilz, is a great feeling that feeds the egos of people across all age groups and across all MMOs. Ask me about my 2v2 rating of 2300; ask me about my top lane Jax; ask me about my no scope 420 fps skills; ask me about how I led fleets for 12 hours a day for two months; and so on. These are things that people take pride in, even if they're not provably very good at it, because they like to think themselves better. And other people are just altruistic. They do it because they know it will help the group. On my friend's minecraft server, I will log on for a couple of hours and just go exploring and mining then deposit a bunch of ore in a chest and log off. It's fun for me, because I know I am helping and that I am contributing to other people's fun whom I care about. I swapped my sleep schedule around from playing in USTZ to leading Siege Fleets in AUTZ, because I knew that our coalition was weak in that time zone and that I could help. I feel good about it. Getting some PLEX per month to keep me from having to stop leading fleets and go farm rats is a nice gesture, but it's nothing like the RMT salary you seem to think exists. I wonder if perhaps you are Gevlon Goblin. Your lack of understanding of human motivations resembles him. That's a lot of selfless acts for someone who just recently wasn't sure if you were "allowed" to do certain things. I don't see the disconnect between being "selfless," and not wanting to do something I shouldn't.
It was more of your defining "leadership" and seeing the self serving implications of "I did that" that brought the comment.
Leaders don't usually want credit or need to be recognized. Others do their accolades for them. Leaders tend to do it because they know they can do it well, or do not trust others to do it for them.
Any Leader who leads for notoriety gets a quick lesson in humility. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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