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Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
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Posted - 2013.08.26 09:37:00 -
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I was wondering (EFT warrioring) If it is possible to build any logistic (T3, BS whatever with enough RR) preferably shield to be used in C4 as only logistic on field. Best scenario would be logistic which can survive C4 anomaly without receiving cap ,armour or shield transfer.
If it is possible somehow please include fit and tactics used running anoms. |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.08.26 16:30:00 -
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Rattlesnake should be able to do it - I've also got a legion fit somewhere that should handle it with ganglinks - I suspect loki and tengu can do the same for shields but never looked at it. |
Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.26 18:17:00 -
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Hey Oska,
You really want your tank to peak at 1500 DPS locally due to the 3 sleeper battleship wave in Frontier Barracks, and the 4 Battleship wave in Sleeper Information Sanctum. The other thing to check is that the Pithum A-type medium shield boosters provide enough rated tank to each of your rep targets on the field.
Since you're basically consigning this ship to a Logistics role (with no DPS output) I don't really see the advantage over a Basilisk with a Cap/Shield Rep buddy. With Logistics 5 we were able to keep the Basilisk running on one energy with a single Shield Transporter for even the heaviest waves as long as we primaried a Battleship down quickly. That way you also have the advantage of much longer logistics projection. Good cap buddies for the Basilisk are Tempest, Typhoon, Raven, Dominix.
Svo. CEO of Heaven's End; Seller of Wormholes. |
John Wolfsson
BAND of MAGNUS
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Posted - 2013.08.26 19:49:00 -
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Ab fitted scimitar is able to tank C4 anomaly ... , |
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
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Posted - 2013.08.27 08:20:00 -
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John Wolfsson wrote:Ab fitted scimitar is able to tank C4 anomaly ... ,
For that i was hoping. Can you please bo more specific about fit and tactics? Which range should scimmi keep from sleepers an how much local rep/buffer he needs? |
Aakkonen
Prometheus Expeditions
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Posted - 2013.08.27 10:29:00 -
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2 Basis with regural 4/2 loadout can hold about 2000 dps in Cat. Var. C4 Bad Jokes since -09.... Fly Safe! o7 |
Godfrey Silvarna
Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light
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Posted - 2013.08.27 11:16:00 -
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Oska Rus wrote:John Wolfsson wrote:Ab fitted scimitar is able to tank C4 anomaly ... , For that i was hoping. Can you please bo more specific about fit and tactics? Which range should scimmi keep from sleepers an how much local rep/buffer he needs? Just TRY things. Spending this much time asking for spesifics on the forums wastes time you could spend making things explode. |
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
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Posted - 2013.08.27 11:50:00 -
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Aakkonen wrote:2 Basis with regural 4/2 loadout can hold about 2000 dps in Cat. Var. C4 yeah i know tah two basis are awesome but i have 4 accounts and i dont want to waste 2 DPS ships on logi if it can be made with only one logi. |
Kasai Hightower
League of Extraordinary Equines Disciples of Vectron
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Posted - 2013.08.27 15:31:00 -
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Svodola Darkfury wrote:Hey Oska,
You really want your tank to peak at 1500 DPS locally due to the 3 sleeper battleship wave in Frontier Barracks, and the 4 Battleship wave in Sleeper Information Sanctum. The other thing to check is that the Pithum A-type medium shield transporters provide enough rated tank to each of your rep targets on the field.
Since you're basically consigning this ship to a Logistics role (with no DPS output) I don't really see the advantage over a Basilisk with a Cap/Shield Rep buddy. With Logistics 5 we were able to keep the Basilisk running on one energy with a single Shield Transporter for even the heaviest waves as long as we primaried a Battleship down quickly. That way you also have the advantage of much longer logistics projection. Good cap buddies for the Basilisk are Tempest, Typhoon, Raven, Dominix.
Svo.
You clearly have never been inside a wormhole before... |
Kasai Hightower
League of Extraordinary Equines Disciples of Vectron
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Posted - 2013.08.27 15:33:00 -
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Oska Rus wrote:I was wondering (EFT warrioring) If it is possible to build any logistic (T3, BS whatever with enough RR) preferably shield to be used in C4 as only logistic on field. Best scenario would be logistic which can survive C4 anomaly without receiving cap ,armour or shield transfer.
If it is possible somehow please include fit and tactics used running anoms.
The closest thing I came to is this
[Scorpion Navy Issue, C4 solo logi] Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Co-Processor II Damage Control II
Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Transporter Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Transporter Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Transporter Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Transporter Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Transporter [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
cap stable with 4 transporters online or both local reps 1268 local tank. Prolly suspectible to neuting. But i had never problems with neuting in C4 with my RR domies.
If you arn't putting damage on that scorpion then why not just use a scimitar with a large shield booster?
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Keith Planck
League of Extraordinary Equines Disciples of Vectron
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Posted - 2013.08.27 15:39:00 -
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[Scimitar, C4 Pony Brigade Logi]
Damage Control II Shadow Serpentis Reactor Control Unit Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Large Shield Booster II 'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration Experimental 10MN Afterburner I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Cap Recharger II
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Cap stable with max skills and no implants, you should be able to mess with the fit to get what you want.
I'm telling you right now this fit is OVERTANKED, eft warriors can ***** all they want about how it only gets 300 local tank but with an AB and a 65 sig radius you aren't taking anywhere near that ESPECIALLY from sleeper battleships. The tactic is basically just orbit a battleship at 5kms and rep stuff.
As always pimp to taste... |
TXG SYNC
Outer Ring Sleeper Collective Illusion of Solitude
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Posted - 2013.08.27 18:27:00 -
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We use Scythes, Ospreys, Augorors, and Exequrors for logi in Class 3 & 4 wormholes. They work fine, are cheap, and don't tend to pop very often. However, they require some modest piloting skill to keep transversal high and avoid frigate webs. Also, the Scythes and Exequrors really need Minmatar or Gallente Cruiser 5 (respectively), tech 2 repair highs, and thermodynamics to overheat during heavy DPS waves for Class 3 data/radar or Class 4 anom work. A pair of reasonably-tanked (for resists with a modest buffer, not just EHP!), somewhat-speedy Ospreys or Augorors, on the other hand, with meta 4 medium reppers, Racial Cruiser 3, and no thermodynamics skills can keep everyone vertical easily throughout the spectrum of all Class 3 sites, and with a little better skills/tank in any Class 4.
If you're going to run a solo logi of some sort, it's helpful to have a utility character with a spare rep "just in case". For instance, our typical blitzing fleets that take 3-4 minutes per site look something like:
* 3 heavy DPS snipers. * 1 utility/anti-frigate ship. Long-range webs preferred, and a utility high with a remote rep matching your fleet composition. A Huginn, Rapier, or Loki is typically really good at this job. * 1 well-skilled solo logi, or dual logi for data/relic sites. Carry damage drones and assign to the utility/webber guy for extra anti-frigate/cruiser DPS. * Salvager with whatever security you prefer. * Miscellaneous security alts as required. |
Robert Morningstar
Morningstar Excavations LTD Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
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Posted - 2013.10.02 20:53:00 -
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If money is not a issue then a carrier is a good option as it can provide enough remote rep and also add to damage as well with senturies
1 thany/archon and 3 domis will work fine. |
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2013.10.03 04:07:00 -
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man you guys really over think this. dps ships + 1rr & energy xfer for basi. frontier barracks is still ez mode. |
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2013.10.03 04:11:00 -
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Aakkonen wrote:2 Basis with regural 4/2 loadout can hold about 2000 dps in Cat. Var. C4
Tell you dps group to get more than 50% resists. |
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Anomalous Existence
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Posted - 2013.10.03 23:25:00 -
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Evangelina Nolen wrote:Aakkonen wrote:2 Basis with regural 4/2 loadout can hold about 2000 dps in Cat. Var. C4 Tell you dps group to get more than 50% resists. Actually, the limiting factor here I suspect is when one of the Basis pulls aggro. |
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:02:00 -
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Tarunik Raqalth'Qui wrote: Actually, the limiting factor here I suspect is when one of the Basis pulls aggro.
It only takes one large rr to keep a basi up. 2 max...
PS... look into T3 logi. Legion or tengu, range limited to 6 km but if set up right {faction tank, lvl 5 skills, 3% implants, not doing the site with 3/4 safeguards} it can rep, tank, and not have nuet problems.
PSS.. Racial Ecm on a dps ship makes draws sleeper aggro very reliably. |
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:32:00 -
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For an armor gang of 3 domis & legion; these fits should work
domis 2x imperial navy eanm dcu expl hardener 3x dla
2x fed navy omnis 2x fed navy tracking comps cap recharger
2x dla 4x tachyon beam laser with imperial navy multi for anything under 65km resist rigs implants to make it work.
legion adaptive + cap regen + liquid crystal dcu imp navy eanm true sansha cap relay 1600 plate 2x deadspace reps 3x cap rechargers ab 4x rr T2 or deadspace armor fleet boost. not bonused but better than none. T2 therm resist rig 2x trimarks implants to suit needs
Last step: Earn 500m+ an hour running nothing but Frontier barracks or Command Pos |
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
47
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Posted - 2013.10.04 10:34:00 -
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I smoke way too much weed. Just now realized the OP wanted shield fits. Shimi works, throw a racial ecm on one of the BS to draw aggro away from logi. Carry RR drones on bs just incase. |
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