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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
40808
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:11:00 -
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Elastoman wrote:Sure 3 months in enough time to make another useless expansion like Odyssey.
It wasn't bad. Just not an Expansion. Just a collection of altered mechanics.
It's an Alteration. |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
2250
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:17:00 -
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Elastoman wrote:Sure 3 months in enough time to make another useless expansion like Odyssey.
Some of us like Odyssey very much. It's not CCP's fault your play style doesn't include the features they worked on this time around. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Prince Kobol
891
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:19:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Elastoman wrote:Sure 3 months in enough time to make another useless expansion like Odyssey. Some of us like Odyssey very much. It's not CCP's fault your play style doesn't include the features they worked on this time around.
Which style would that be.. logging on? |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
219
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:27:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:open the door
issler
They should add this sign on the door. New CQ prototype |
Optimo Sebiestor
Bondage Goat Zombie Strictly Unprofessional
175
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Posted - 2013.08.27 15:09:00 -
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Who needs an expansion anyway? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4541
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Posted - 2013.08.27 15:29:00 -
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I don't think that completely reworking existing mechanics to make them more entertaining can be dismissed as not being an expansion. If you revamp a major game component, that is an expansion of the game.
Now if you believe an expansion must contain new territory and completely new features never seen before in any form, yes, you are probably disappointed that we have no previously unknown solar systems full of space panda's now. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
2251
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Posted - 2013.08.27 15:56:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Stitcher wrote:Some of us like Odyssey very much. It's not CCP's fault your play style doesn't include the features they worked on this time around. Which style would that be.. logging on?
You know, a while back one of the contributing factors that led to Burn Jita was general playerbase dissatisfaction with CCP's focus on big "NEW FEATURES!!!1!" expansions rather than on polishing the existing features.
If you're a lowsec explorer, POS-based industrialist and ice miner, Odyssey polised your experience up a fair old bit.
I quite agree that I prefer the big features, but the fact is that I am a lowsec explorer, POS-based industrialist and ice miner, and there's nothing about odyssey that I can reasonably object to and much about Odyssey that I thoroughly like.
Sometimes expansions come along that don't cater to everyone. look at the sov warfare mechanics - I got my alliance sov warfare experience out of the way a long time ago. Not involved, not interested, nothing in that expension really had that much of an effect on me. I don't feel it's fair to object because it did have an effect on thousands of other players.
Don't complain about an expansion just because you didn't benefit from it, please. It's petty and short-sighted. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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baltec1
Bat Country
7707
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:20:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Announcing at Gamescom wasn't timely so it will happen at another point in time ;).
It's still more than three months out so we still have some time.
Wait, its that soon till Christmas already? |
Feer Truelight
152
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:26:00 -
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Is it SoonGäó or Very SoonGäó ? EVE Online Fraud Prevention - http://eve-fraud.blogspot.com |
Elastoman
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
6
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:30:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Some of us like Odyssey very much. It's not CCP's fault your play style doesn't include the features they worked on this time around. Actually exploration is my primary income source. And not a single thing in Odyssey really changed anything for me.
The main problem about Odyssey is that it didn't address any really important issues except moon materials (which had to be done like 2 years ago tbh) and ship balance (which is a separate thing). Yes, exploration is broken, but there are much more broken things. Like force projection. But CCP went for easier problem and still didn't manage to rethink 'exploration' to make it feel like exploration. They made only cosmetic changes instead of fundamental overhaul.
CCP wasted half a year while the game is stagnating and less and less exciting things happen in EVE. PvE and mining is still boring, PvP is getting harder to find, blobbing is the only effective tactic in sov warfare. Only fundamental changes can solve this and sadly 3 months are definitely not enough. |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
41036
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:31:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:
You know, a while back one of the contributing factors that led to Burn Jita was general playerbase dissatisfaction with CCP's focus on big "NEW FEATURES!!!1!" expansions rather than on polishing the existing features.
erm......No.
The kerfluffle was a FULL Expansion was promised, and upon release day only one racial CQ was available. The rusty Minmatar Hell.
And the Door would not open.
It was only a prototype. |
Maximus Andendare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
461
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:55:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Stitcher wrote:
You know, a while back one of the contributing factors that led to Burn Jita was general playerbase dissatisfaction with CCP's focus on big "NEW FEATURES!!!1!" expansions rather than on polishing the existing features.
erm......No. The kerfluffle was a FULL Expansion was promised, and upon release day only one racial CQ was available. The rusty Minmatar Hell. And the Door would not open. It was only a prototype. Wow it was just the one CQ? I missed Incarna. By the time I came back from Tyrannis to Inferno, I had 4 CQs and ship spinning (back--well, to me it always was).
Step onto the battlefield, and you're already dead, born again at the end of the battle to live on and fight another day.
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Prince Kobol
893
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:01:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:I don't think that completely reworking existing mechanics to make them more entertaining can be dismissed as not being an expansion. If you revamp a major game component, that is an expansion of the game.
Now if you believe an expansion must contain new territory and completely new features never seen before in any form, yes, you are probably disappointed that we have no previously unknown solar systems full of space panda's now.
Yes reworking mechanics is nice, but then so is something new.
A balance between the two would be nice but what was the last new thing we had that made a difference? |
Mystical Might
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
145
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:34:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: i mean ,CCP suddenly comes up with a new OR arcade shooter ,getting it hyped ,so people forget about EvE expansions. and the only thing they can come up with is the old SoonGäó
I don't always quote myself... |
Mystical Might
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
145
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:35:00 -
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Mystical Might wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: i mean ,CCP suddenly comes up with a new OR arcade shooter ,getting it hyped ,so people forget about EvE expansions. and the only thing they can come up with is the old SoonGäó I don't always quote myself...
... But when I do... |
Mystical Might
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
145
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:35:00 -
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Mystical Might wrote:Mystical Might wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: i mean ,CCP suddenly comes up with a new OR arcade shooter ,getting it hyped ,so people forget about EvE expansions. and the only thing they can come up with is the old SoonGäó I don't always quote myself... ... But when I do...
... I don't add any content. |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
462
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:48:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Announcing at Gamescom wasn't timely so it will happen at another point in time ;).
It's still more than three months out so we still have some time.
sorry, but your "expansions" are not expanding anything except socket closed errors and multiple patches after you release the "big patch expansion".
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
2257
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Posted - 2013.08.27 18:04:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Stitcher wrote:
You know, a while back one of the contributing factors that led to Burn Jita was general playerbase dissatisfaction with CCP's focus on big "NEW FEATURES!!!1!" expansions rather than on polishing the existing features.
erm......No. The kerfluffle was a FULL Expansion was promised, and upon release day only one racial CQ was available. The rusty Minmatar Hell. And the Door would not open. It was only a prototype.
I did say "ONE of the contributing factors"
The single CQ room with the stuck door, the "greed is good" newsletter leak and the $1000 jeans comment were others. It wasn't just one thing.
An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
1197
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Posted - 2013.08.27 18:10:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Stitcher wrote:
You know, a while back one of the contributing factors that led to Burn Jita was general playerbase dissatisfaction with CCP's focus on big "NEW FEATURES!!!1!" expansions rather than on polishing the existing features.
erm......No. The kerfluffle was a FULL Expansion was promised, and upon release day only one racial CQ was available. The rusty Minmatar Hell. And the Door would not open. It was only a prototype. I believe Micro transactions was a major part in it too...
Must not forget the "Greed is Good" leak! I'm currently taking bets on the following: - CCP Games becomes EA Games' property. - EVE Online will have Microtranctions everywhere. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
809
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Posted - 2013.08.27 19:11:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Elastoman wrote:Sure 3 months in enough time to make another useless expansion like Odyssey. Hey, it wasn't useless.. they did stuff
Was neither an expansion nor useless. Eve is Real |
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Thexx Littlechurch
Black Whole Industries
7
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Posted - 2013.08.27 21:37:00 -
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Rabble! Rabblerabblerabblerabble! |
Xytheus Skor
Venture Corporation
17
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Posted - 2013.08.27 21:51:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Stitcher wrote:
You know, a while back one of the contributing factors that led to Burn Jita was general playerbase dissatisfaction with CCP's focus on big "NEW FEATURES!!!1!" expansions rather than on polishing the existing features.
erm......No. The kerfluffle was a FULL Expansion was promised, and upon release day only one racial CQ was available. The rusty Minmatar Hell. And the Door would not open. It was only a prototype.
The problem is they have to release 2 "expansions" a year. If they had waited a few months, finished the other CQs, finished stations, maybe released some of that exploration avatar gameplay it wouldv'e have made up for not releasing 2 a year.
Yes, I understand wanting to fix game mechanics, but those shouldn't be released in 'expansions' they should be released weekly. There is a reason other MMOs charge for expansions: they actually contain content. By that I mean a lot of it, not just a little of it. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4544
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Posted - 2013.08.27 22:06:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I don't think that completely reworking existing mechanics to make them more entertaining can be dismissed as not being an expansion. If you revamp a major game component, that is an expansion of the game.
Now if you believe an expansion must contain new territory and completely new features never seen before in any form, yes, you are probably disappointed that we have no previously unknown solar systems full of space panda's now. Yes reworking mechanics is nice, but then so is something new. A balance between the two would be nice but what was the last new thing we had that made a difference? I have to agree with that.
The game was in such a state that the last couple of years of polishing were pretty much mandatory, but I think we've come to the point where we are all yearning for some new, sweeping changes.
It still doesn't mean that the last expansions weren't actually just that... a huge amount of game play has been dramatically improved... but yes, I'm ready for some new cool stuff as well.
I think CCP is too. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Prince Kobol
894
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Posted - 2013.08.27 22:33:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I don't think that completely reworking existing mechanics to make them more entertaining can be dismissed as not being an expansion. If you revamp a major game component, that is an expansion of the game.
Now if you believe an expansion must contain new territory and completely new features never seen before in any form, yes, you are probably disappointed that we have no previously unknown solar systems full of space panda's now. Yes reworking mechanics is nice, but then so is something new. A balance between the two would be nice but what was the last new thing we had that made a difference? I have to agree with that. The game was in such a state that the last couple of years of polishing were pretty much mandatory, but I think we've come to the point where we are all yearning for some new, sweeping changes. It still doesn't mean that the last expansions weren't actually just that... a huge amount of game play has been dramatically improved... but yes, I'm ready for some new cool stuff as well. I think CCP is too.
God I hope so because I know I need something new and different
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Djana Libra
DAB The Unthinkables
266
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Posted - 2013.08.28 09:26:00 -
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Because of Falcon
Ow btw just wondering which one do you mean with soonGäó? Do you mean to say there will be no winter or that there will be no expansion? |
Jove Death
Red Dawn Mercenaries Whores in space
47
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Posted - 2013.08.28 09:38:00 -
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Djana Libra wrote:Because of Falcon Ow btw just wondering which one do you mean with soonGäó? Do you mean to say there will be no winter or that there will be no expansion?
What hes means is he has no clue. Also there trying to fix DUST and there trying to pitch valkyrie. So now the dev teams are spread far and wide as the eye can see and in a small cupboard you will find a lonely eve dev working on the new patch.
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Garan Nardieu
Moira. Villore Accords
45
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Posted - 2013.08.28 10:51:00 -
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Jove Death wrote:Djana Libra wrote:Because of Falcon Ow btw just wondering which one do you mean with soonGäó? Do you mean to say there will be no winter or that there will be no expansion? What hes means is he has no clue. Also there trying to fix DUST and there trying to pitch valkyrie. So now the dev teams are spread far and wide as the eye can see and in a small cupboard you will find a lonely eve dev working on the new patch.
...patch which will get some pompous name and be deemed full expansion by ccp
While we're at it - who wants to bet that we won't hear anything about player built stargates for next 2-3 years at least |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
9849
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Posted - 2013.08.28 11:00:00 -
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Features & Ideas is where you should be looking. You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
192
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Posted - 2013.08.28 11:01:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:remember the out of EvE new game????? Valkerie?????
The Winter Expansion should be for Eve as it is, not some ****** 1st person shooter bolt on. Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
Jove Death
Red Dawn Mercenaries Whores in space
47
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Posted - 2013.08.28 11:27:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:remember the out of EvE new game????? Valkerie?????
The Winter Expansion should be for Eve as it is, not some ****** 1st person shooter bolt on.
+1
End of the day dust went downhill from day 1 when ccp should have made a pc version and not let Sony have all the spoils. Not everyone has a ps3 you know.
made it worse by hiring some lame yourtube girl
Then they thought hey whilst eve is dying and dust is spiralling out of control lets make another bolt on and call it valkyrie.
CCP should be dealing with EvE and not hiring money grabbers who are thinking I know dust failed. Valkyrie may fail. let me see where can we get money from as im the best money grabber in the world. MICROTRANSACTIONS.
CCP prior revelations we had pretty much full intergration with you and new everything that was happening. You used to pop in local with ccp ships and chat to everyone on patch day.
No Offence but your PR skills have fallen through the floor.
Falcon seems to talk but not much about anything important until needs must.
C'mon ccp jeeze sort it out please.
PS ill PR anytime as I dont think it could be worse than it currently is. Oh btw this isnt a rant its a customer relations excercise from Jove space :P |
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