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Kate Diabolus
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:17:00 -
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So I encountered a shield Rifter the other day which blew me away quite easily so, i figured I'd ask here for any advice and tips. What are the primary targets for the Hawk? and would the Harpy be better?
[-Hawk] Rocket Launcher II - Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II - Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II - Thorn Rage Rocket Small Energy Neutralizer II
Medium C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I 1MN Afterburner II Warp Scrambler II Small Capacitor Booster II
Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
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Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:29:00 -
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Replace the Cap Booster, Med Shield Boost and Neuts with a Web, Small Shield Booster and a Nos. |
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:32:00 -
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Learn to fly a rifter. |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:46:00 -
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[Hawk, MSE] Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
1MN Afterburner II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Medium Shield Extender II
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
If you're still managing to lose to Rifters in this, I suggest you take up mining. Oh and hint: rage rockets are not meant to be used against frigates.
In my experience the MSB fit Hawk is a triumph of EFT figures over practicality; the cap use is enormous and the lack of web limits both your applied DPS and range control. |
Kate Diabolus
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:54:00 -
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Thank you for those constructive replies. I'll give your build a go. |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:59:00 -
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In fact I've found active Hawks in general pretty lacklustre (sp?) - small shield boosters just don't put out enough unless you invest in overpriced faction mods, and at that point you may as well just be flying a Dramiel. (And they're still horribly overdependant on cap.) |
BearJews
The Activity
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Posted - 2011.10.29 14:00:00 -
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man it just hurts my eft eyes seeing a mse on a hawk. Just doesn't make sense that a extender fit would perform better than an active fit. But experience speaks volumes and i've seen it recommended time and time again. *sigh* |
Delucian
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.29 14:12:00 -
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Quote:Oh and hint: rage rockets are not meant to be used against frigates
Um.... |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2011.10.29 14:41:00 -
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Quote:man it just hurts my eft eyes seeing a mse on a hawk
Why? Active Hawk is a joke without faction mods, and then it's so overpriced it's a joke anyway. MSE Hawk has about 10k EHP that isn't turned off when someone neuts you, and leaves space for a much needed web.
Problem? Rage rockets deal reduced damage to small targets, a shield Rifter like in the OP would mitigate approximately 40-50% of your DPS using those without a web, and a fair bit even with it. |
Koniss
Advanced Technology
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Posted - 2011.10.29 15:33:00 -
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JitaJane wrote:Learn to fly a rifter. more like learn to fly (and fit) a Hawk |
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river Zateki
Dutch Squad Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2011.10.29 22:14:00 -
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You could also get a harpy if your having trouble with the hawk. harpy looks cooler, and would absolutely stomp a rifter. |
Lurana Lay
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.30 03:20:00 -
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Get out of a Hawk, get into anything else. Just the way it is. |
vlewandowski
Mise en Abyme
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Posted - 2011.10.30 07:48:00 -
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river Zateki wrote:You could also get a harpy if your having trouble with the hawk. harpy looks cooler, and would absolutely stomp a rifter.
At tight orbit rifter killing harpy, if harpy don't have web. |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2011.10.30 13:25:00 -
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Quote:Get out of a Hawk, get into anything else. Just the way it is. This isn't 2008 any more, the Hawk is a great AF.
Quote:At tight orbit rifter killing harpy, if harpy don't have web. A non-lolfit Harpy on the other hand would indeed stomp a Rifter. |
Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.30 14:27:00 -
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nerf matar |
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
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Posted - 2011.10.30 16:27:00 -
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If you can't beat a tufted in a Hawk then either train more or practice more. You should of chewed him up! And so what if active hawk is cap dependent? So is a triple rep myrm and they're monsters. Learn to manage cap and enjoy the win. |
Kate Diabolus
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Posted - 2011.10.30 16:42:00 -
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I have perfect shield skills. The fight started with him getting in close so I unloaded right away and tried to keep up an ab orbit. I started to pulse my booster but he was just eating through faster than it could rep. |
Korg Leaf
Shockwave Innovations
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Posted - 2011.10.30 18:51:00 -
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Kate Diabolus wrote:I have perfect shield skills. The fight started with him getting in close so I unloaded right away and tried to keep up an ab orbit. I started to pulse my booster but he was just eating through faster than it could rep.
That fit should have no trouble tanking a rifter, even if they had the perfect damage type loaded right from the beginning. |
Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2011.10.30 19:04:00 -
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I have a good idea... join Red... Blues are much easyer to kill.
Scorpionidae If you see my sig... Like me plz? I feel unloved.
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