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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.07 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: GouldFish [something]
Are you Stephen J. Gould's pet fish? -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
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Franken Slammer
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Posted - 2006.01.07 05:09:00 -
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I think ccp will assign 1 system a day to each faction to attack into (and for it to be defended) for factional warfare since there are the 4 main empires, 4 (maybe 5) pirate factions i would estimate on 9 systems with full on silly warfare in each day. I have no idea how new soverignty would be decided (most ships from 1 faction in tht system on average per hour maybe). That woull allow the ebb and flow of war without fecking up the entire of eve. And of course, all teh manufacturers woulld be shovelling in ships into the surrounding systems for the disgruntled pilots :) maybe the empires can put a bounty or point system on enemy faction players when tehy jump into the combat systems based on their sp's or age, only claimable by their faction people. meh. just a few ideas. /me predicts rocketting sales in kestrals :P plus ccp will draw out a lot of isk from pod losses :)
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Alex Christensen
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Posted - 2006.01.07 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Christensen Well defender missiles will woop your torpedos/missiles.. Nothing can stop a railgun & blaster volley.. Nothing!!
Defenders suck. 'nuff said.
Yeah but they are still capable of doing so.. And we have drones.. OWNED
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Doomed Predator
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Posted - 2006.01.07 11:48:00 -
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Read the empire navy description.The caldari have the most hi-tech navy now.The gasllente navy is aging but the have a ****load of drones.So i think the first large battle will be won by caldari where their advanced ships will beat the aging dominixes,underpowered thoraxes,etc. into a pulp(mind you, almost no gallentan ship has a launcher slot so no defender missiles).But then the gallente will probably start making more and more drones so i guess caldari will make some progres into gallente space before being puished back by hordes of drones so that the empire borders will become like before the war.Or the gallentans start making super drones which will make them win the war.Or the drones go insane(it did happen once,read cronicles;rogue drones) and start killing the gallentans fro m the inside.
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.01.07 11:54:00 -
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gallente will invent superdrones, that can setupoff doomsday weapons every 5 minutes *5 . sure you can have your precision missiles _________________________________________________
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Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2006.01.07 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: TanSpectra Edited by: TanSpectra on 06/01/2006 14:45:42
Originally by: Noriath Caldari will lose... Why? Because I just bought their invasion plans. Stupid greedy monkeys.
Whoo hoo made over a Bil this week selling Caldari invasions plans, are these Gallente thick or wot?
Good thing is we make double that daily from you buying Gallente adult entertainment ;) Caldari sex life must be so incredibly boring.
Besides, we have blasters. You don't. We win. Also, we look better.
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
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GouldFish
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Posted - 2006.01.07 12:55:00 -
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whoops must not post while drunk.....
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2006.01.07 13:40:00 -
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LMAO @ thread.
The fun part is we had a little discussion about this subject in corp as well.
Perhaps this 'war' could be implemented into eve as a giant ongoing ingame event, changing a lot of the state of the universe, neutral zones could be erected between the states, perhaps even 0.0 systems. there could be npc fleet incursions as ingame events, where u get called to fight for your side for instance, a caldari fleet invades gallente space and podpilots get called on to fight for their side (with huge risks but also huge bonusses involved) Hm, imo something like this could have great potential in making eve much more interesting 9and hopefully fun) story wise
Prolly would take a lot of planning and i can also see all the whine threads, about people losing connection to the other side, so it should only be a temporary state (say a couple a weeks/months?) and then things should return to 'normal' so to speak. Perhaps as suggested, that is the time the Jovians call out for a cease fire and we get access to their space.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.01.07 13:43:00 -
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You're not getting your bloody homeworld back. It's ours now.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2006.01.07 14:13:00 -
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ôI've heard you like to passive-tank your Dominix, but what shield-related "record" does it actually hold? I have trouble believing that you could ever shield-tank a Dominix better than a Scorpion or Raven.ö
The records are a 37 second natural shield recharge thatÆs 37 seconds from 0 shield to max shield without a shield booster. But my favourite is 181.5 sustainable HP regen (solo ship) with 0 cap drain. So a 181.5 HP to 0 cap ratio. Try and beat that for HP regen efficiency on a Caldari ship or as an amour tanker.
ThatÆs also not the theoretical max if someone one day gets close to my records I will post my 200HP+ setup.
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Alex Christensen
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Posted - 2006.01.07 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Clipped Wings
Besides, we have blasters. You don't. We win. Also, we look better.
Couldn't have said it better
Anyway missiles won't do any good against hordes of drones, blasterthron/deimos's and our beloved flying potatoe (spawning the OMFGHAX drone).. and did I mention the b-e-a-utiful enyo?? Lay down your guns.. - Love and peace or else.. Caldari scums
Qaufe is dying.. Time to introduce Carlsberg as a new Gallente brand
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.07 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Christensen
Originally by: Alex Christensen Well defender missiles will woop your torpedos/missiles.. Nothing can stop a railgun & blaster volley.. Nothing!!
Defenders suck. 'nuff said.
Yeah but they are still capable of doing so.. And we have drones.. OWNED
Good luck hitting me with drones from 150km away.
Also, have fun shooting a torp with a single defender, you're in for a nasty suprise.
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2006.01.07 19:40:00 -
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Quote: Good luck hitting me with drones from 150km away.
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I can do it now already, can I have a cookie? Or do I install another drone tracking link and waste you from 200km?
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.07 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: David Sinclair
Oh, and about a war... the Federation will cut off all shipments of Quafe to the Caldari and Amarr. I expect both empires to capitulate and beg for peace within two weeks.
Mmmmm... Quafe...
yea no more pleasure hub either
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Alex Christensen
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Posted - 2006.01.08 12:04:00 -
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Good luck hitting me with drones from 150km away.
Also, have fun shooting a torp with a single defender, you're in for a nasty suprise.
No problem m8! I'll just place my ship some 6km from your pitty Raven and say: "Say hello to my little friends.." OWNED
and btw: Quafe will own all enemies.. they have put a very adictive drug in all Qaufe products sold to the other empires.. so without Quafe you're all dead
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.01.08 20:31:00 -
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The amarr.
Remind me about The Maze.
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.08 20:31:00 -
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this sums up the outcome
Linkage
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JoKane
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Posted - 2006.01.08 20:41:00 -
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Team Caldari: Caldari, Amarr and Jove. Team Gallente: Gallente and Minmatar.
Nuff said.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2006.01.08 20:42:00 -
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Amarr would win. The End.
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Zikke
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Posted - 2006.01.08 20:54:00 -
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What a dumb question, Gallente would win of course!
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Gorion Wassenar
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Posted - 2006.01.09 09:28:00 -
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But is the Federation even capable of researching new drones? I don't think so with it's budgets slashed as they are. This war isn't so much about the ships but who can sustain a war. The gallante economy isn't prepaired for mass weapon production while the Caldari is just waiting, if it isn't already doing it. Also what is to stop Caldari ships from using drones as well? Nothing. From using Blasters? Nothing. Even so, most of the new ship bonuses have to do with prolonging the ability of Caldari ships to remain in the engagement. Which is a heavly important factor in warfare.
As for the new sentry drones, how strong are they? Can they even take 1 cruise missle? What will you do when all your long range drones are gone? Leave and get more while the Caldari take the field? ------------------
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Ukucia
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Posted - 2006.01.09 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: JoKane Team Caldari: Caldari, Amarr and Jove.
Why would the Jove ally with the Amarr? The Amarr invaded the Jove Empire recently. They don't like the Amarr much.
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Ukucia
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Posted - 2006.01.09 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Gorion Wassenar But is the Federation even capable of researching new drones? I don't think so with it's budgets slashed as they are. This war isn't so much about the ships but who can sustain a war. The gallante economy isn't prepaired for mass weapon production while the Caldari is just waiting, if it isn't already doing it.
The economic situation you describe is exactly like the Germans and allies just before WWII. The Germans were smaller, but with much better technology, a better-trained military and an economy rigged for war production. As the Germans discovered, war economies are really not that hard to set up when war starts.
Already being on a war footing gives an initial advantage to the Caldari (Germans), but the larger Gallente (US) economy would quickly switch to a war-footing, and be able to win through sheer production power. If the Raven (Panzer) is 3x better than a Mega (Sherman), it will still lose when facing 8 of them.
(Note: Economic parallel to Germans does not imply any ideological parallel)
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Gythar
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Posted - 2006.01.09 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stogee
Originally by: Gythar G'Day all,
I have read a number posts in this thread, and I am rather surprised at some of them. The only players that will get "drafted" will be ones that have strong ties to an Empire, such as Caldari Naval Reserve & PIE. Everyone else I think can pick a side, or sit back and watch.
From what I have seen from CCP, I don't think that they will force anyone to join in the war. But I suspect that a number of us will get drawn in my the actions of others.
Remember, while we can affect the game world, there are other things happening in the storyline that will continue, and effect the players. This will be the case until a player controls one or more of the Empires (an unlikely event in the foreseeable future).
To everyone who is in a panic about Kali, just relax, sit back and enjoy what appears to be one very exciting ride.
Cheers,
Gythar Resident of an Empire :)
A man who is a member of an empire called "The Penguin Republic" is tellin us to relax? :O You take orders from a senate of penguins?
o O (thinks he should be very very not relaxed!)
No, The Penguin Republic is not the Empire in question, though I am a resident of one of the main four empires featured in this discussion.
I look forward to the fireworks, and I am interested to see how it pans out. I'm not panicking like some others, nor do I particularly care who wins in the coming war. I know I will benefit from it greatly, which for me is the most important matter.
Cheers,
Gythar.
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Gorion Wassenar
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Posted - 2006.01.09 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: Gorion Wassenar on 09/01/2006 23:26:22
Originally by: Ukucia
Originally by: Gorion Wassenar But is the Federation even capable of researching new drones? I don't think so with it's budgets slashed as they are. This war isn't so much about the ships but who can sustain a war. The gallante economy isn't prepaired for mass weapon production while the Caldari is just waiting, if it isn't already doing it.
The economic situation you describe is exactly like the Germans and allies just before WWII. The Germans were smaller, but with much better technology, a better-trained military and an economy rigged for war production. As the Germans discovered, war economies are really not that hard to set up when war starts.
Already being on a war footing gives an initial advantage to the Caldari (Germans), but the larger Gallente (US) economy would quickly switch to a war-footing, and be able to win through sheer production power. If the Raven (Panzer) is 3x better than a Mega (Sherman), it will still lose when facing 8 of them.
(Note: Economic parallel to Germans does not imply any ideological parallel)
Comparing this kind of conflict to WWII is almost useless to be frank. (Also I think that the Megathrawn would definatly be better then the Sherman as a WWII equivilent. At least I think they didn't suck that much last I checked.) We're dealing with the outputs of whole Solar systems. There is so much that is different that really it comes down to whos ships can take the heat and still function and whole can stack the deck with the most toy soldiers. Yeah drones do favor into the deck stacking, but they must have someone to control them. Also, whats to stop the Caldari from making the ultimate Cruise Missle? Equip it with a drone brain and a limited warp drive and you got a nasty weapon. Like a shuttle but the only payload is death. Of course the Gallante are also quite capable of making the same thing. Another thing I would also like to bring up, but what is the situations of the standing armies? Does the Federation or Caldari even have them? Or would the Caldari and Gallante troops be under the juristiction of the respective Navies as Marines? ------------------
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.09 23:27:00 -
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Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 09/01/2006 23:28:30 If they put planetary militaries under the jurisdiction of the space-based militaries, it's going to completely f*ck over an entire section of my RP. I really hope they don't.
And if they completely eliminate the idea of planetary militaries, I think it's going to negatively affect more people's RP, because I've run into a number of people who have infantry experience... -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! |
Syrec
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Posted - 2006.01.09 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 09/01/2006 23:28:30 If they put planetary militaries under the jurisdiction of the space-based militaries, it's going to completely f*ck over an entire section of my RP. I really hope they don't.
And if they completely eliminate the idea of planetary militaries, I think it's going to negatively affect more people's RP, because I've run into a number of people who have infantry experience...
How so? The planets are part of the factions, and planets have to have defenses. The 'planetary militaries' as you call them aren't really seperate factions. Jurisdiction wise I don't think that could possibly ruin your roleplay. NPCs aren't going to tell you what to do. I would be surprised if CCP made an odd statement in RP that said 'all planetary defenses and military are now to recieve commands from space navy.' I don't think they'd do that, it's too wierd. Unless you're roleplaying that the planets in (for example) gallente systems don't belong to the gallente, then it shouldn't be a problem.
Infantry experience, I don't see how that would be screwed either. Planetary vehicles and small arms are all in game, why would they declare that planetary grunts don't exist. Of coarse there is police and military on planets. They also probably use spaceships and flying interplanetary fights (caldari or w/e), tanks.. whatever else.
Also any good roleplayer wouldn't be ruined by the storyline progressing. be flexible. Nothing can just shatter your entire RP world. No patch note is going to say "<insert name here> has no infantry experience, there is so such thing as infantry."
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Zed Nash
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Posted - 2006.01.10 00:31:00 -
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Who currently owns Caldari Prime?
Nuff said............
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Breed Love
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:35:00 -
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gallente would pwn. navy issue blasterthron for teh winzors. they would slaughter caldari ravens while their chicks would be seducing caldari navy officers. go gallente!
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Zarithas
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:46:00 -
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I like the Gallente better, but the Caldari would win hands down. The Gallente would probably cause a few nuisances, but eventually the Caldari would just completely annihilate all their major system's stations, assassinate their leader, do the same with the Minmatar, turn them all into slaves, and split the slave distribution 60-40 with the Amarr Empire.
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