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Shanky Shankz
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:26:00 -
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Sometimes when I try to use a jump clone I am asked to destroy my implants. Why is this? I have 3 clones, including the one I'm using. I can jump to one without destroying my implants, but not the other. Both are in stations. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1397
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:29:00 -
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You have three types of clone
your active clone your medical clone and your jump clones
you may not have two jump clones at the same station
if you attempt to jump out of your active clone when there is a jump clone in the same station (unless you are jumping to the clone in the same station), one clone must be destroyed with its implants |
baltec1
Bat Country
7871
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:30:00 -
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You can only use a jumpclone so many times beford its destroyed. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1397
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:32:00 -
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what? liar. |
Shanky Shankz
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:32:00 -
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It will tell me I must destroy the implants on my current clone in order to jump. Then I will try it at another time and I will be just fine. I think something else is going on here. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1397
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:34:00 -
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i imagine the other times you're trying to jump from a different station or the clone you're jumping to is at a different station |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
1898
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:28:00 -
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Just to make sure this is clear:
You cannot jump to a clone in the same station as you are in, without consequences. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
3173
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:33:00 -
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The Op might be trying to Jump Clone from a station he already has a Jump Clone at.
You can only have 1 Jump Clone per station. Unless you are trying to swap with the one in the station you are in, you need to find a new station. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1400
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:48:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Just to make sure this is clear:
You cannot jump to a clone in the same station as you are in, without consequences. this is incorrect, i do it regularly you cannot jump from a station you already have a jump clone in |
Shanky Shankz
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:11:00 -
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The clone I was trying to jump to was in another station. I had 2 clones, including the one I was using, in the station I was currently in. I was able to jump to the clone that was in my current station but I was not able to jump to the one in another station. |
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:12:00 -
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Because the jump clone mechanics are needlessly picky and restrictive. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
231
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:15:00 -
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Shanky Shankz wrote:The clone I was trying to jump to was in another station. I had 2 clones, including the one I was using, in the station I was currently in. I was able to jump to the clone that was in my current station but I was not able to jump to the one in another station.
Are you trolling then?
What don't you understand? The station only has room for one jump clone. If you try to leave two clones in a station, one will be destroyed (the one you are currently in will be kept). |
Tydeth Gilitae
Magewright Artificers
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:20:00 -
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Quote:The clone I was trying to jump to was in another station. I had 2 clones, including the one I was using, in the station I was currently in. I was able to jump to the clone that was in my current station but I was not able to jump to the one in another station.
When you jump to a clone in Station B, your current body becomes a Jump Clone in Station A.
Each station can only hold 1 Jump Clone, so if Station A already has one, then you must sacrifice it for your current clone, with implants lost.
You can switch between the two clones in Station A at will, as you'll still only have 1 Jump Clone in the station. If you want to jump to Station B while not losing the clone in Station A, you'll need to find a third station to dock at and switch from. |
Tydeth Gilitae
Magewright Artificers
22
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:21:00 -
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Tydeth Gilitae wrote:Quote:The clone I was trying to jump to was in another station. I had 2 clones, including the one I was using, in the station I was currently in. I was able to jump to the clone that was in my current station but I was not able to jump to the one in another station. When you jump to a clone in Station B, your current body becomes a Jump Clone in Station A. Each station can only hold 1 Jump Clone, so if Station A already has one, then you must sacrifice it for your current clone, with implants lost. You can switch between the two clones in Station A, as you'll still only have 1 Jump Clone in the station. If you want to jump to Station B while not losing the clone in Station A, you'll need to find a third station to dock at and switch from.
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Shanky Shankz
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:26:00 -
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Ah, my mistake. Did not know each station was only capable of holding one clone. That is rather unimpressive considering something like Jita has room for it's billions of items and millions of ships but not my 2 little pods. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1400
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:28:00 -
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that's what i said in the first place :( |
Shanky Shankz
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:31:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:that's what i said in the first place :(
Yes you did. I guess I read through a little too fast and thought you said something different.
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
157
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Posted - 2013.09.07 18:12:00 -
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Shanky Shankz wrote:Ah, my mistake. Did not know each station was only capable of holding one clone. That is rather unimpressive considering something like Jita has room for it's billions of items and millions of ships but not my 2 little pods.
Right, don't you know that civilizations in eve are so advanced that they have faster than light travel, the ability to move a ship between star systems and communicate between multiple points in the new Eden cluster simultaneously instantaneously in real time but incapable of transfering a consciousness between 2 cloned bodies with implants in the same station. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5754
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:28:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Shanky Shankz wrote:Ah, my mistake. Did not know each station was only capable of holding one clone. That is rather unimpressive considering something like Jita has room for it's billions of items and millions of ships but not my 2 little pods. Right, don't you know that civilizations in eve are so advanced that they have faster than light travel, the ability to move a ship between star systems and communicate between multiple points in the new Eden cluster simultaneously instantaneously in real time but incapable of transfering a consciousness between 2 cloned bodies with implants in the same station. No, they're perfectly capable of doing so. My Youtube Channel Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
347
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Posted - 2013.09.08 03:00:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Just to make sure this is clear:
You cannot jump to a clone in the same station as you are in, without consequences. this is incorrect, i do it regularly you cannot jump from a station you already have a jump clone in
it was like that, maybe you are getting an artifact from before they changed it? You can trust me, I have a monocole |
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2089
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:01:00 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Just to make sure this is clear: You cannot jump to a clone in the same station as you are in, without consequences. this is incorrect, i do it regularly you cannot jump from a station you already have a jump clone in it was like that, maybe you are getting an artifact from before they changed it? Confirming that it is okay to jump to a clone in the same station:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3101632#post3101632 |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
86
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:43:00 -
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If you are being told to destroy implants you'd better damned well comply before an ISD gets in your game session and locks a thread... Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo... |
Ravasta Helugo
Republic University Minmatar Republic
202
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:50:00 -
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Can we please examine why you can't have more than one jump clone in a station at a time?
Would it really be that hard to have a menu of clones pop up, with implants listed, and then choose the one you want? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4591
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:00:00 -
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Ravasta Helugo wrote:Can we please examine why you can't have more than one jump clone in a station at a time?
Would it really be that hard to have a menu of clones pop up, with implants listed, and then choose the one you want? Jump clones are not intended to be implant suits that you simply slip on and off whenever you wish to change implants, there are restrictions in place to keep it from becoming too easy to do so. This also falls along the lines of not being able to jump more than once per day (or a little less now).
If you want to swap those implants, you're going to have to move around at least a little bit to do so... putting yourself at least at some risk in the process. Of course you can destroy them at any time if you "really" need to swap those implants.
If you want a RP justification, it's not a restriction due to lack of technology to do so. It's a legal restriction that you are not allowed to house more than one jump clone in a station at a time.
You might also consider that it is wise to keep your medical clone in a station other than the one where you have a jump clone stored. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Chopper Rollins
Sky Prey
230
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:58:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Can we please examine why you can't have more than one jump clone in a station at a time?
Would it really be that hard to have a menu of clones pop up, with implants listed, and then choose the one you want? Jump clones are not intended to be implant suits that you simply slip on and off whenever you wish to change implants, there are restrictions in place to keep it from becoming too easy to do so. This also falls along the lines of not being able to jump more than once per day (or a little less now). If you want to swap those implants, you're going to have to move around at least a little bit to do so... putting yourself at least at some risk in the process. Of course you can destroy them at any time if you "really" need to swap those implants. If you want a RP justification, it's not a restriction due to lack of technology to do so. It's a legal restriction that you are not allowed to house more than one jump clone in a station at a time. You might also consider that it is wise to keep your medical clone in a station other than the one where you have a jump clone stored.
Cool RP reason extended remix: the legal requirement about housing only one clone was the result of a technological accident early in the days of cloning tech where a whole crowd of powerful clones were activated at once in the one location. Massive psychological trauma inflicted on the clones resulted in them fighting in station over assets, undocking in bling ships to continue fighting, the few survivors scattered into drone space. Wandering null as weird, troubled, highly skilled capsuleers the small but unknown number of identical clones are a murky and disturbing reminder of a week known as The Teonusude Incident. Soundtrack by Lustmord and Skrillex.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3900
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:07:00 -
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This thread makes me laugh so much ! *LOL*
Benny Ohu wrote:that's what i said in the first place :(
The whole scenario of you and people telling him and him responding and you all telling him again and and and *LOL* !
And then this ...
Caviar Liberta wrote:Right, don't you know that civilizations in eve are so advanced that they have faster than light travel, the ability to move a ship between star systems and communicate between multiple points in the new Eden cluster simultaneously instantaneously in real time but incapable of transfering a consciousness between 2 cloned bodies with implants in the same station.
*LOL* !! |
OG shankz
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:19:00 -
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I love how my question was answered days ago and this thread is still going. This forum is by far more fun, interesting and full of conversation when compared to something like... the league of legends GD... Those hateful little kids.
Clones aren't meant to be implant suits? Huh, that is exactly what I use mine for. |
Jose Ronald Palasialdana
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:20:00 -
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1st scenario:
3 jump clones and you
you are in station D a jump clone in station A a jump clone in station B a jump clone in station C Here you jump out... your current clone stays in station D and you transfer your consciousness to A B or C stations... no problems...
2nd scenario:
you are in station A a jump clone in station A a jump clone in station B a jump clone in station C you can jump to your jump clone in station A with no problem... if you try to jump to station B or C it wants you to destroy your implants ( and your jump clone is actually destroyed also) because when you jump out of station A it has no place to put your body as it is already occupied by your jump clone that is stored there.
Only 1 clone can EVER be at any one station. If you are at a station that has a clone you can ONLY jump to that clone.. no others.. without losing your implants (and clone).
clear as my skin!
Jose Ronald
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