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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.01.10 03:45:00 -
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Edited by: Vendrin on 10/01/2006 03:45:01 This announcement brought to you by Tsurokigaarai Corporation.
Due to increasing raids by outside forces into the Caldari State, Tsurokigaarai Corporation has become increasingly concerned with the wellfare of the average law abiding citizen who merely wishes to make a living within Caldari Space and not have to worry about interference.
To solve this problem and to aid it's fellow citizens, Tsurokigaarai Corporation has funded and created a public channel for all Caldari Citizens. The Caldari Civilian Defense Force Channel or CCDF-Net. Any pilot of any race may request in this channel escorts or defense against pirates. Any Caldari pilot may also request assistance with missions that serve the Caldari State or a Caldari Corporation. All that is asked in return is if you are helped that you help someone when you are able to.
This channel will be moderated by Tsurokigaari Corporation Employees and select members of CAIN, and Darksaber Technologies if they wish it. Anyone with a security status of less then -0.5 will be promptly muted in the channel by a moderator to prevent pirates from luring helpful citizens into traps. Any pirate who uses an alternate identity to get around such identity will have their alternate identity muted and they and their associates added to a blacklist that would not be wise to get on.
This channel can become a great assest to all in the Caldari Space if we use it and use it well.
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Van Cleef
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Posted - 2006.01.11 00:02:00 -
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With all the current threats to the State, it is good to see Caldaris' helping Caldaris'. This is a step in the right direction for the strength of our State. ------------------------------------------------ Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM |
Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.11 01:12:00 -
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Gilead's Bullet applauds and supports this iniative. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! |
Tommy TenKreds
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Posted - 2006.01.11 04:54:00 -
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Excellent. This is a superb security initiative worthy of an outstanding Caldari corporation.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.01.11 05:25:00 -
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Much needed initiative, I wish you good fortune in your endeavors, it won't be easy. |
Brastagi
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Posted - 2006.01.11 06:12:00 -
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At last! Someone has the intiative to create global defense channel. --------- Need to find something in the forum? Use Eve-Search!
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:13:00 -
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Thank you for positive responses. I hope you will take the time to join the channel and be willing to ask for help and to give it.
Need help in Caldari Space? Join channel CCDF to give or recieve it. |
Dev Larren
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:38:00 -
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A mutual support defence channel for Caldari is an excellent idea and certainly has my support. Even if escorts/assistance cannot be made available straight away, the channel can be used to issue warnings about Caldari Systems where there is pirate activity.
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.01.13 01:30:00 -
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Pilots from the CCDF channel completed their first mission today in the destruction of three Gallente forces within Caldari Space.
All Hail Caldari.
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Grifter Treysik
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Posted - 2006.01.13 15:13:00 -
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This channel is an excellent idea. We just need to watch who enters it. As some already know, we had a Caldari in their who admitted to piracy, in Caldari space no less. He was booted some time after a debate we all had. I am glad he is gone.
I sad that I had to miss the mission. I can only hope to assist in another, when I have time.
Be well and fly safe.
Regards,
Grifter Treysik
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Oldgiffer
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Posted - 2006.01.14 13:45:00 -
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The time has come for the loyal supporters of the caldari state to stand up to all the enemies who oppose use. Yesterday I joined your defence channel in the hope that the loyalist caldari could do what needed to be done to destroy the states enemies. Your narrow minded rejection of loyal fighters for the state has left us with no choice. Insults against my corp in public channles will not be tolerated.
I call on all caldari who believe the state should be strong in its military as much as its economy to delare support for either the Tsurokigaari or the SERK view on how the state can be best served. Wars will be issued tomorrow against Tsurokigaari and CAIN. All corps that wish to join us destroying the weaklings that currently pretend to serve the state will be welcomed. All who join our enemies will be treated as enemies of the state.
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Hayzo
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Posted - 2006.01.14 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Hayzo on 14/01/2006 14:36:55
Originally by: Oldgiffer Edited by: Oldgiffer on 14/01/2006 14:12:59 The time has come for the loyal supporters of the caldari state to stand up to all the enemies who oppose us. Yesterday I joined your defence channel in the hope that the loyalist caldari could do what needed to be done to destroy the states enemies. Your narrow minded rejection of loyal fighters for the state has left us with no choice. Insults against my corp in public channles will not be tolerated.
I call on all caldari who believe the state should be strong in its military as much as its economy to delare support for either the Tsurokigaari or the SERK view on how the state can be best served. Wars will be issued tomorrow against Tsurokigaari and CAIN. All corps that wish to join us destroying the weaklings that currently pretend to serve the state will be welcomed. All who join our enemies will be treated as enemies of the state.
Kudos on doing your reasearch, finding out what needs to be done, and doing it. You're truely an asset to Caldari everywhere.
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"Your safe Boundaries were once unknown frontiers"
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Lex Sebastion
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Posted - 2006.01.14 20:07:00 -
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The CCDF is an assest to be used by all loyal Caldari. To Oldgiffer I have one question. Why are your security standings with almost every Caldari school in the negative range. A Loyal Caldari does not attack recruit pilots of their own race. And then brag about it.
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.01.14 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Oldgiffer
The time has come for the loyal supporters of the caldari state to stand up to all the enemies who oppose us. Yesterday I joined your defence channel in the hope that the loyalist caldari could do what needed to be done to destroy the states enemies. Your narrow minded rejection of loyal fighters for the state has left us with no choice. Insults against my corp in public channles will not be tolerated.
I call on all caldari who believe the state should be strong in its military as much as its economy to delare support for either the Tsurokigaari or the SERK view on how the state can be best served. Wars will be issued tomorrow against Tsurokigaari and CAIN. All corps that wish to join us destroying the weaklings that currently pretend to serve the state will be welcomed. All who join our enemies will be treated as enemies of the state.
So let me get this straight.
You're comparing CAIN and TKI with Serial Killers over which one is a better service to the State?
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Oldgiffer
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Posted - 2006.01.14 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: Oldgiffer on 14/01/2006 21:18:42
Originally by: Lex Sebastion The CCDF is an assest to be used by all loyal Caldari. To Oldgiffer I have one question. Why are your security standings with almost every Caldari school in the negative range. A Loyal Caldari does not attack recruit pilots of their own race. And then brag about it.
Look at my caldari state standings. My personal disagreements with corps within the state are unimportant. My standing with the state are more important. My efforts to train recruits should not be any of your concern.
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Oldgiffer
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Posted - 2006.01.14 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen
Originally by: Oldgiffer
The time has come for the loyal supporters of the caldari state to stand up to all the enemies who oppose us. Yesterday I joined your defence channel in the hope that the loyalist caldari could do what needed to be done to destroy the states enemies. Your narrow minded rejection of loyal fighters for the state has left us with no choice. Insults against my corp in public channles will not be tolerated.
I call on all caldari who believe the state should be strong in its military as much as its economy to delare support for either the Tsurokigaari or the SERK view on how the state can be best served. Wars will be issued tomorrow against Tsurokigaari and CAIN. All corps that wish to join us destroying the weaklings that currently pretend to serve the state will be welcomed. All who join our enemies will be treated as enemies of the state.
So let me get this straight.
You're comparing CAIN and TKI with Serial Killers over which one is a better service to the State?
Im am suggesting that perhaps your efforts to defend the state may be more succesful if you werent so spineless. I am asking the caldari pilots to make a choice between a military defence or a group of ship builders and miners with little experience and even less willingness to destroy the enemies of the state. If I am wrong then the corps will rally to you and get their own wars placed against serk and destroy us. If Im right you and all your supporters will hide from us and do nothing but talk.
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Hayzo
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Posted - 2006.01.14 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen
Originally by: Oldgiffer
The time has come for the loyal supporters of the caldari state to stand up to all the enemies who oppose us. Yesterday I joined your defence channel in the hope that the loyalist caldari could do what needed to be done to destroy the states enemies. Your narrow minded rejection of loyal fighters for the state has left us with no choice. Insults against my corp in public channles will not be tolerated.
I call on all caldari who believe the state should be strong in its military as much as its economy to delare support for either the Tsurokigaari or the SERK view on how the state can be best served. Wars will be issued tomorrow against Tsurokigaari and CAIN. All corps that wish to join us destroying the weaklings that currently pretend to serve the state will be welcomed. All who join our enemies will be treated as enemies of the state.
So let me get this straight.
You're comparing CAIN and TKI with Serial Killers over which one is a better service to the State?
It appears to be something like that, but
Quote: [...]to delare support for either the Tsurokigaari or the SERK view on how the state can be best served.
I don't think it's as much service to the state, as an attempt to divide it two ways. ____________________
"Your safe Boundaries were once unknown frontiers"
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.01.14 21:35:00 -
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I think you are a little chastized over being muted in the CCDF Channel yesterday.
This is because you have a negative sec status. Outlaws have no place in the defence of the State.
Obvieously it deflated your ego somewhat so now, you and your corp have come out with false emotions for the Caldari State and use it as a justification for war against us.
Funny that you should make your love for the State so apparent now with little reason.
Miners and shipbuilders eh? The same miners and shipbuilders who killed Ullia Hnolku in the service of the State while Serial Killers were probably adding more kills to their negative sec statuses.
You also have a bounty on your head.
A fine example of an upstanding State citizen indeed.
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Oldgiffer
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Posted - 2006.01.14 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen I think you are a little chastized over being muted in the CCDF Channel yesterday.
This is because you have a negative sec status. Outlaws have no place in the defence of the State.
Obvieously it deflated your ego somewhat so now, you and your corp have come out with false emotions for the Caldari State and use it as a justification for war against us.
Funny that you should make your love for the State so apparent now with little reason.
Miners and shipbuilders eh? The same miners and shipbuilders who killed Ullia Hnolku in the service of the State while Serial Killers were probably adding more kills to their negative sec statuses.
You also have a bounty on your head.
A fine example of an upstanding State citizen indeed.
I think you misunderstand the concept of outlaw. The state and concorde have no issues with me or my corp. Bounties are hardly a reliable method of deciding who is good and who is bad. They are placed by pod pilots not the governments. If the state wanted me dead would they place a bounty?. If we are wrong about your group then prove us wrong.
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eve warrior
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Posted - 2006.01.14 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen I think you are a little chastized over being muted in the CCDF Channel yesterday.
This is because you have a negative sec status. Outlaws have no place in the defence of the State.
Obvieously it deflated your ego somewhat so now, you and your corp have come out with false emotions for the Caldari State and use it as a justification for war against us.
Funny that you should make your love for the State so apparent now with little reason.
Miners and shipbuilders eh? The same miners and shipbuilders who killed Ullia Hnolku in the service of the State while Serial Killers were probably adding more kills to their negative sec statuses.
You also have a bounty on your head.
A fine example of an upstanding State citizen indeed.
Eve warrior chuckles as he reads the lies before him. The ceo of SERK might have been a pirate at once and so were the rest of the members of SERK, but after several weeks of Killing the Arch Angles they have succeded to do what many said was impossible. They went from -10 to the low negative sec status they now have. If your Narrow minds can not graps this concept, then you are in No way fit to serve the Caldari State.
We will be testing your navy very soon to see if they too are fit for tasks that lie ahead of them in the future.
See you on the battle field.
Eve Warrior
SERK Director.
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.01.14 21:54:00 -
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As hard as it might be for you to actually grasp this concept, service to the State is not recorded on how many people you kill.
If, Federation Navy or Republic Fleet vessels enter State space, CAIN/TKI have dealt to them in the past, we do now and we will continue in the future.
As for pod-pilot corporations, of the Gallente slant there are few and of those they are small. None of them are pursuing hostile activites within State space, as such there are no wardecs in place.
So, whatever point you feel you've got to prove by wardeccing us, it's moot already. By the way, the name "Serial Killers" just screams loyalty to the State. No really, it does.
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Leon 026
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Posted - 2006.01.14 21:56:00 -
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Sounds pretty childish. Seen as an outlaw due to poor security status and having a bounty on one's head, THEN starting up a tantrum by declaring war on those that say they protect the State? My, what loyalty to the State by attacking its defenders. I suppose the concept of negotiation and diplomacy to prove that you are not an outlawed pilot is beyond you.
For a Caldari, I expected better; not some childish tantrum the Gallente would employ. ------------------------------- Be Caldari, be proud. Haak-kin k'len
Leon / LN026
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Hayzo
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Posted - 2006.01.14 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: eve warrior
[...]They went from -10 to the low negative sec status they now have. If your Narrow minds can not graps this concept, then you are in No way fit to serve the Caldari State.
Just because you attacked and destroyed a series of Angel vessels, does not immidiatly mean that you're innocent. 'Sheep's clothing.' ____________________
"Your safe Boundaries were once unknown frontiers"
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Oldgiffer
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Posted - 2006.01.14 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Leon 026 Sounds pretty childish. Seen as an outlaw due to poor security status and having a bounty on one's head, THEN starting up a tantrum by declaring war on those that say they protect the State? My, what loyalty to the State by attacking its defenders. I suppose the concept of negotiation and diplomacy to prove that you are not an outlawed pilot is beyond you.
For a Caldari, I expected better; not some childish tantrum the Gallente would employ.
My issue is that they 'say' they defend the state. The issue of low sec is really not an issue as Ive already discussed. If we were outlaws these so called defenders would be safe from any reprisals. If they mute and block you it is difficult to use diplomacy. They do not wish to enter into a debate about the future direction the loyalist forces should take so we are forcing them into proving they are the right people to make that choice. When we have shown that we are the stronger group we will be open to diplomatic approaches so that the true enemies can be dealt with. If they continue to show such disrespect to fellow caldari they will only have themselves to blame for any conflicts that arise.
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Oldgiffer
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Posted - 2006.01.14 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Hayzo
Originally by: eve warrior
[...]They went from -10 to the low negative sec status they now have. If your Narrow minds can not graps this concept, then you are in No way fit to serve the Caldari State.
Just because you attacked and destroyed a series of Angel vessels, does not immidiatly mean that you're innocent. 'Sheep's clothing.'
Since you have no say in the laws imposed by the state, who are you to decide on our guilt or innocence. In the eyes of the law we are free and honest citizens. If you have any problem with this fairly simple concept I would suggest you contact a legal adviser from any caldari corp and they will explain it slowly for you.
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.01.14 22:40:00 -
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Hello again. You were blocked and muted for one very simple reason. Because the rules of the channel I set up say it must be done. Anyone with less then -0.5 standing will be muted and blocks so no pirates may attempt to lure pilots into traps by asking for aid.
Your status was less then -0.5, and as such you were blocked and muted. It had little to do with the bounty on your head.
If you wish re-entry all you must do is get your sec status to above -0.5 and you will be allowed in until the moment it is shown you engage in any illegal activities within Caldari Space or your sec status falls below -0.5 again.
Now, if SERK wishes to war declare us, that is of course your preogative. We do not seek aggression and war as a means of boosting our ego and image but we will not back down.
Need help in Caldari Space? Join channel CCDF to give or recieve it. |
Oldgiffer
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Posted - 2006.01.14 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Oldgiffer on 14/01/2006 23:20:24
Originally by: Vendrin Hello again. You were blocked and muted for one very simple reason. Because the rules of the channel I set up say it must be done. Anyone with less then -0.5 standing will be muted and blocks so no pirates may attempt to lure pilots into traps by asking for aid.
Your status was less then -0.5, and as such you were blocked and muted. It had little to do with the bounty on your head.
If you wish re-entry all you must do is get your sec status to above -0.5 and you will be allowed in until the moment it is shown you engage in any illegal activities within Caldari Space or your sec status falls below -0.5 again.
Now, if SERK wishes to war declare us, that is of course your preogative. We do not seek aggression and war as a means of boosting our ego and image but we will not back down.
-0.5 is barely bad sec. Any fighter will have a negative sec. Since they are not even criminal in 1.0 security systems until they reach -2 why have you chosen such an odd limit?. Since we have not comitted crimes in caldari state what are your reasons for spitting in our face when my corp offers aid to the fairly weak military forces you posses?.
It is time the caldari forces took a more active role in the removal of enemies and competitors from caldari space and interests. The caldari state is not a nursery for the weak. If you want a strong state you will need a strong military. You seem content to talk about what needs to be done but never do anything. People should recognise the loyalist caldari and fear them.
Any corps that wish to join us in achieving this goal mail me.
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.01.15 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Oldgiffer -0.5 is barely bad sec. Any fighter will have a negative sec. Since they are not even criminal in 1.0 security systems until they reach -2 why have you chosen such an odd limit?. Since we have not comitted crimes in caldari state what are your reasons for spitting in our face when my corp offers aid to the fairly weak military forces you posses?.
We chose such a limit to ensure the safety of the users of the channel so their would as minamal chance as possible for them to be lured in Pirate Ambushes. Unfortunatly we can not know whethere you have commited crimes in the Caldari State or not. And we had no wish to spit in your face, we merely adhered to the channel rules. you would be welcome in the channel the moment your Sec Status was raised above -0.5.
Quote: It is time the caldari forces took a more active role in the removal of enemies and competitors from caldari space and interests. The caldari state is not a nursery for the weak. If you want a strong state you will need a strong military. You seem content to talk about what needs to be done but never do anything. People should recognise the loyalist caldari and fear them.
We are loyal Caldari, but until the time the State declares other empires an enemy, if and when that happens we will happily go to war. Until that time we will obey the law. The State has a strong military but neither your corporation nor mine are it. We will support the navy in any conflict when the State declares that it is necessary.
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Oldgiffer
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Posted - 2006.01.15 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Oldgiffer on 15/01/2006 01:23:35 So you are admitting you have no interest in really fighting the various openly aggressive corps and organisations of enemies governments. You would rather just mine and talk about actually doing something, rather than taking the fight to the enemy. You hide behind the diplomacy that the caldari government uses to keep our enemies guessing and are afraid to take part in action in support of the state. We intend to take the fight to the enemy and Im sure other corps will see that our way is the right way.
As for your channel, you will change the entrance rules or we will take action against you. Your thinly hidden apology in the previous post is not sufficient. If you wish to avoid conflict make a proper apology and change the channel rules. Feel free to mail me if you wish to discuss terms for friendship. otherwise aggressive actions will be sanctioned in approximately 12 hours.
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.01.15 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Oldgiffer Edited by: Oldgiffer on 15/01/2006 01:23:35 So you are admitting you have no interest in really fighting the various openly aggressive corps and organisations of enemies governments. You would rather just mine and talk about actually doing something, rather than taking the fight to the enemy. You hide behind the diplomacy that the caldari government uses to keep our enemies guessing and are afraid to take part in action in support of the state. We intend to take the fight to the enemy and Im sure other corps will see that our way is the right way.
If the aggressive corps war declare on our allies we will most likely war declare them. If they war declare us we will not cower and hide, if they war declare other caldari corps and they make a request of assistance to us we will seriously consider it. When the State takes action, and not just a few single corporations that skitters on the edge of the law, then we will gladly fight the States enemies.
Quote: As for your channel, you will change the entrance rules or we will take action against you. Your thinly hidden apology in the previous post is not sufficient. If you wish to avoid conflict make a proper apology and change the channel rules. Feel free to mail me if you wish to discuss terms for friendship. otherwise aggressive actions will be sanctioned in approximately 12 hours.
I see no need to change the rules of the Channel. If my CEO wishes it, then I will of course comply. But you have no right to make demands of the CCDF channel. If you wish to take part in it then raise your security status.
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