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Demon Azrakel
Ouran Host Club
88
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Posted - 2013.10.05 03:18:00 -
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Surely this rule applies to everyone regardless of their position as a scammer.
Perhaps we should all start to petition this guy for claiming, in his bio, no less, the names of his 'supposed' alts.
This new change and interpretation of the TOS is a pile of **** and you guys know it.
A part of me wants to start petitioning everyone who claims, rightly or wrongly, that ____ is their alt. This would, of course, happen in many recruitment situations, or when you are telling corp-mates who to contract their stuff to for a freighter hauling.
I mean, HOLY ******* ****, do you guys not see how bad of an idea it is.
But seriously, start reporting everyone every time that they say "____ is my alt". The GMs will figure out how terrible of an idea this is quite quickly. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
4230
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Posted - 2013.10.05 03:28:00 -
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Demon Azrakel wrote:A part of me wants to start petitioning everyone who claims, rightly or wrongly, that ____ is their alt. This would, of course, happen in many recruitment situations, or when you are telling corp-mates who to contract their stuff to for a freighter hauling.
Why just a part of you? CCP is explicitly telling you to do this.
Impersonation is against the rules, CCP has a long standing request for players to report rulebreaking, and you have (per CCP's own posts) no possible way of weeding out false positives yourself, so why wouldn't you do your utmost to help CCP in its hour of need? "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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Demon Azrakel
Ouran Host Club
98
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Posted - 2013.10.06 01:48:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Demon Azrakel wrote:A part of me wants to start petitioning everyone who claims, rightly or wrongly, that ____ is their alt. This would, of course, happen in many recruitment situations, or when you are telling corp-mates who to contract their stuff to for a freighter hauling. Why just a part of you? CCP is explicitly telling you to do this. Impersonation is against the rules, CCP has a long standing request for players to report rulebreaking, and you have (per CCP's own posts) no possible way of weeding out false positives yourself, so why wouldn't you do your utmost to help CCP in its hour of need?
umm... :effort:
That's pretty much it... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4716
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Posted - 2013.10.06 07:34:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Demon Azrakel wrote:A part of me wants to start petitioning everyone who claims, rightly or wrongly, that ____ is their alt. This would, of course, happen in many recruitment situations, or when you are telling corp-mates who to contract their stuff to for a freighter hauling. Why just a part of you? CCP is explicitly telling you to do this. Impersonation is against the rules, CCP has a long standing request for players to report rulebreaking, and you have (per CCP's own posts) no possible way of weeding out false positives yourself, so why wouldn't you do your utmost to help CCP in its hour of need? I think their hour of need is trying to get the ccp approved lottery group out of player consciousness There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
4232
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Posted - 2013.10.06 17:47:00 -
[1655] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:I think their hour of need is trying to get the ccp approved lottery group out of player consciousness
So they have 2 hours of need this week.
Needy brats, aren't they? "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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Stoogie
Space Pygmies
123
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Posted - 2013.10.08 10:37:00 -
[1656] - Quote
Is the new ccp policy ignore things till they go away? |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1343
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Posted - 2013.10.08 11:51:00 -
[1657] - Quote
Stoogie wrote:Is the new ccp policy ignore things till they go away?
That's the oldest of CCP policies.
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Xeen Du'Wang
Knights of the Black Watch
16
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Posted - 2013.10.08 13:33:00 -
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Old Space Guy wrote:Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:Evanga wrote:This is really ridiculous ccp. Signing off my accounts, who wants stuff? I'll take some please ;) But seriously, don't just sign straight off. Lets give them another week or two, at lease until the winter expansion. After that, I will have to make a decision as well. no, please sign off right away. i prefer my free lewtz hot. waaah waaah waaah. i didn't get my way so i'm going to ragequit. eve has come a long way in a decade, but eve players have been a consistent problem that hasn't yet been fixed.
I love how morons argue |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1347
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Posted - 2013.10.08 15:32:00 -
[1659] - Quote
Soooooo...how's this little gem progressing now that we have other hilarious foibles to distract us? Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Kate stark
493
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Posted - 2013.10.08 15:36:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:Soooooo...how's this little gem progressing now that we have other hilarious foibles to distract us?
Like CCP said, nothing has changed. To prove it, they went and secretly handed some otherwise unobtainable assets to their friends Comunity Contributors, or something.
Seems they were, indeed, correct. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
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Flyinghotpocket
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
178
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Posted - 2013.10.10 00:49:00 -
[1661] - Quote
whatch out minmatar those of you who made alts of me. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
1371
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Posted - 2013.10.10 05:45:00 -
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An Open Letter to CCP Re: PR Disaster
Dear CCP
I think it's time for CCP to roll back all of the decisions they have made over the past 3 months or so and pretend they never happened, to include the following:
1. Change the TOS back. 2. Reverse these massively valuable gifts 3. Renounce CCP approval of in-game players and player-run entities 4. Apologize to the community.
I can pencil into my schedule a discounted initial consultation to help you effect these changes and communicate with the public. I will require roundtrip airline tickets (business class or above) from my home in the United States, complementary accomodations (nothing fancy, a dev's couch is fine), and I will throw in a 20% discount to my normal fees because I love you guys so much. If you choose to engage me on a full time basis, I will require prepaid moving assistance and a salary greater or equal to twice the median salary in Iceland at the senior executive level.
I look forward to moving forward with you on this endeavor.
Regards,
-Ero See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
588
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Posted - 2013.10.10 17:41:00 -
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Although itGÇÖs been pretty quiet lately, we just wanted to let you all know that we havenGÇÖt forgotten about this matter. Customer Support is now working with Game Design to prepare material for discussion with the CSM, where this is going to be one of our main discussion points in the coming months. We have received lots of ideas and input on this that we will take into consideration and we look forwards to meeting up with the CSM and coming to a satisfactory resolution. CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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Orakkus
Wraithguard. Dirt Nap Squad.
196
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:47:00 -
[1664] - Quote
CCP Dolan wrote:Although itGÇÖs been pretty quiet lately, we just wanted to let you all know that we havenGÇÖt forgotten about this matter. Customer Support is now working with Game Design to prepare material for discussion with the CSM, where this is going to be one of our main discussion points in the coming months. We have received lots of ideas and input on this that we will take into consideration and we look forwards to meeting up with the CSM and coming to a satisfactory resolution.
That is good to hear as I had hoped this didn't get swept under the rug. He's not just famous, he's "IN" famous. - Ned Nederlander
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AayJay Crendraven
Dakka Unlimited
10
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Posted - 2013.10.21 05:20:00 -
[1665] - Quote
CCP Dolan wrote:Although itGÇÖs been pretty quiet lately, we just wanted to let you all know that we havenGÇÖt forgotten about this matter. Customer Support is now working with Game Design to prepare material for discussion with the CSM, where this is going to be one of our main discussion points in the coming months. We have received lots of ideas and input on this that we will take into consideration and we look forwards to meeting up with the CSM and coming to a satisfactory resolution.
I, along with just about every other person who posted in this thread, would like to call "bullshit".
Clearly, 150+ pages spanning multiple threadnaughts of people telling you you're idiots for doing this isn't enough. |
Xeen Du'Wang
Knights of the Black Watch
22
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Posted - 2013.10.21 13:23:00 -
[1666] - Quote
CCP Dolan wrote:Although itGÇÖs been pretty quiet lately, we just wanted to let you all know that we havenGÇÖt forgotten about this matter. Customer Support is now working with Game Design to prepare material for discussion with the CSM, where this is going to be one of our main discussion points in the coming months. We have received lots of ideas and input on this that we will take into consideration and we look forwards to meeting up with the CSM and coming to a satisfactory resolution.
This accounts ends in December... The other one is already down...
You were told by the players to NOT DO THIS AT ALL... before you did it... Now its on to damage control...
You allow Somer to break the EULA, and in fact give them incentive to do so... LOTS of incentive...
How about another apology from Hellmar, then 6 months free game time as proof he is sincere. |
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
197
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Posted - 2013.10.21 18:00:00 -
[1667] - Quote
CCP Dolan wrote:Although itGÇÖs been pretty quiet lately, we just wanted to let you all know that we havenGÇÖt forgotten about this matter. Customer Support is now working with Game Design to prepare material for discussion with the CSM, where this is going to be one of our main discussion points in the coming months. We have received lots of ideas and input on this that we will take into consideration and we look forwards to meeting up with the CSM and coming to a satisfactory resolution. what the ****? 'coming months'? so, you're going to keep shutting down peoples raffles but let Somer do their thing til then i suppose |
Xeen Du'Wang
Knights of the Black Watch
30
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Posted - 2013.10.22 11:09:00 -
[1668] - Quote
Money Makin Mitch wrote:CCP Dolan wrote:Although itGÇÖs been pretty quiet lately, we just wanted to let you all know that we havenGÇÖt forgotten about this matter. Customer Support is now working with Game Design to prepare material for discussion with the CSM, where this is going to be one of our main discussion points in the coming months. We have received lots of ideas and input on this that we will take into consideration and we look forwards to meeting up with the CSM and coming to a satisfactory resolution. what the ****? 'coming months'? so, you're going to keep shutting down peoples raffles but let Somer do their thing til then i suppose
Yep |
Luis Graca
216
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Posted - 2013.10.24 01:15:00 -
[1669] - Quote
EVE online 2014 pay 2 win on a subscription game |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5026
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:40:00 -
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Xeen Du'Wang wrote:Money Makin Mitch wrote:CCP Dolan wrote:Although itGÇÖs been pretty quiet lately, we just wanted to let you all know that we havenGÇÖt forgotten about this matter. Customer Support is now working with Game Design to prepare material for discussion with the CSM, where this is going to be one of our main discussion points in the coming months. We have received lots of ideas and input on this that we will take into consideration and we look forwards to meeting up with the CSM and coming to a satisfactory resolution. what the ****? 'coming months'? so, you're going to keep shutting down peoples raffles but let Somer do their thing til then i suppose Yep Good stuff, it seems people do this "talk so avoid action" thing in other cases as well. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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Rekkr Nordgard
The Ardency of Faith Filthy Bastards
74
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:56:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:Although itGÇÖs been pretty quiet lately, we just wanted to let you all know that we havenGÇÖt forgotten about this matter. Customer Support is now working with Game Design to prepare material for discussion with the CSM, where this is going to be one of our main discussion points in the coming months. We have received lots of ideas and input on this that we will take into consideration and we look forwards to meeting up with the CSM and coming to a satisfactory resolution.
Almost a month later with no new news on this, zero official word on the Somer Blink RMT scandal, the live events fiasco just hit today, and a lackluster patch launches in less than two weeks. Man, you guys are on a roll lately. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
328
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:04:00 -
[1672] - Quote
CCP Dolan wrote:Although itGÇÖs been pretty quiet lately, we just wanted to let you all know that we havenGÇÖt forgotten about this matter. Customer Support is now working with Game Design to prepare material for discussion with the CSM, where this is going to be one of our main discussion points in the coming months. We have received lots of ideas and input on this that we will take into consideration and we look forwards to meeting up with the CSM and coming to a satisfactory resolution.
How about CCP takes its fat fingers out of the alt-spy metagame. People who extensively employ director alts and such but can't keep track of them shouldn't be protected by the terms of service. If someone gets a director alt into an alliance executor corp, and someone asks "who is this alt?" and the alt replies "I'm [insert legitimate director's name here]'s alt" then the ToS shouldn't protect that alliance if the guy who asked fails to follow up with the guy whose name was used.
If some guy's alts all have a particular naming convention, then adopting that naming convention to appear as one of his alts should not be prohibited. Note, I'm not talking about replacing L's with I's or 1's, if CCP wants to ban that, whatever.
But this logic that "we are going to make stuff we're OK with a violation anyway so that we have maximum discretion to apply punishment selectively." then that is harmful to the game. The examples of numerous in-game entities that have taken on the names of real life entities that they are clearly unaffiliated with is indeed humorous, but its also a serious example of why overly broad language is ******* terrible all around.
I'm really interested to know if the ToS change came from the legal department, or if it really is an attempt to protect the people that rely on alts extensively, ie alliance leaderships.
Clearly there's a line where metagaming crosses into criminal activity, but it was already clearly defined and none of these changes is necessary to solidify it. Fighting is Magic |
buyer Bedala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.01.11 22:46:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:Although itGÇÖs been pretty quiet lately, we just wanted to let you all know that we havenGÇÖt forgotten about this matter. Customer Support is now working with Game Design to prepare material for discussion with the CSM, where this is going to be one of our main discussion points in the coming months. We have received lots of ideas and input on this that we will take into consideration and we look forwards to meeting up with the CSM and coming to a satisfactory resolution.
So it has been 3 months since this was posted. Has their been an update on the policy? |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
2129
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Posted - 2014.01.12 06:43:00 -
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Or how about addressing the massive internal failures that created and then perpetuated this hilarious disaster?
Does the GM team still distinguish between otherwise legal in-game actions based on their own interpretation of "maliciousness"?
Does the GM team still believe that it is acceptable policy to have broad, contradictory, and absurd rules that are enforced opaquely and inconsistently because we should "trust them"?
What was the connection between these rule changes and the simultaneous "special relationship" being developed with Somer?
Why were the GMs allowed to post themselves silly for days before someone competent stepped in?
Just because you ignore these critical issues does not make them go away. I guess we'll all be back for the next hilarious PR disaster that could have been avoided by making some hard decisions now (well...three months ago) instead of doing your best ostrich impressions. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Apocryphal Noise
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2014.01.12 06:54:00 -
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Who cares, enough of this "giff game teim" disguised as phony outrage. |
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