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The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.12 13:51:00 -
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Tweak torpedo hitpoints up to make them less vulnerable to smartbombs and defender missiles.
This improves the weapon system in comparison to cruise missiles by making them more effective vs. capital blobs. As it is, cruise missiles benefit from the faster speed by passing smartbomb firewall faster, thus being even better anti-cap than torpedoes. Torps need this role to have any place in pvp outside obvious stealth bombers.
In PVE, this has a favorable impact too. Torpedoes become less vulnerable to defenders, and more importantly smartbombing Golem becomes an option. Nullsec marauders are in the current iteration able to fit 4 smartbombs, becoming the top tier anom runners with the exception of Golem which cannot use torpedoes while smartbombing.
Small but needed buff IMHO. |
Arya Regnar
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2013.09.12 16:15:00 -
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Torps are kinda mehh with the cruise buff and need a rebalance anyway.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.12 21:06:00 -
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Bump |
Arkenai Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.12 21:24:00 -
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People use defender missiles? Another terrible poster ._. |
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 08:15:00 -
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Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:People use defender missiles?
Npcs do |
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
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Posted - 2013.09.13 09:08:00 -
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The Spod wrote:Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:People use defender missiles? Npcs do
According to my sales statistics pod pilots do too. Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Labs Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
131
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Posted - 2013.09.13 09:11:00 -
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I like firewalling Torpedos with smartbombs it does bring some nice Feeling into the combat i would suggest we leave it as it is. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.09.13 09:12:00 -
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The Spod wrote:Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:People use defender missiles? Npcs do
Yeah, but the NPC defender missiles won't even dent your average torpedo anyways. Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 09:54:00 -
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Lephia DeGrande wrote:I like firewalling Torpedos with smartbombs it does bring some nice Feeling into the combat i would suggest we leave it as it is.
This is a valid point.
The problem is torpedoes being completely useless due to fury cruise missile damage. Furies deal approx. 15% less dps than rage, or the same dps as faction torpedoes. They apply it much faster at a much longer range, with better damage application from velocity/radius. This practically obsoletes torpedoes in pvp outside of stealth bombers.
The obvious solutions are to: GÇó nerf cruise missiles, but this would make them useless like they were GÇó buff torpedo damage but nerf application so that the weapon system requires more support GÇó buff torpedo damage application because generally short range weapons track better GÇó buff torpedo indirect stats like hitpoints to make them counter smartbomb firewall, which also separates torpedoes in their own niche.
I think the most suitable obvious solution would be to buff torp hp. This would improve them vs. capitals and make them bypass smartbombs in close quarter fights where they are needed. You get to firewall vs. cruises :)
In any case torps are not fine because cruises do everything better. |
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
132
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Posted - 2013.09.13 10:07:00 -
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Your right, torpedos especially T2 need some urgent review.
CCP want to introduce a TD for missiles i would say keep Eve complicated and Push Smartbombs and Defender Missiles while bring Missiles and Torpedos back on their Throne as Alpha Damage King.
That would Buff Missiles for Fleets a little bit while keeping the metagame on a Fun level.
I dont get why CCP dont Buff Missiles into Fleet fights, they would really rise the Bar for New mechanic, instead the old (and stupid) Alpha!Alpha!Alpha! Spirit. |
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