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Abulurd Boniface
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:02:00 -
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There is a flap going on about the new ToS as it pertains to impersonating people. Scamming, it seems, is a dying art. As I was following this debate, I had this uncomfortable idea.
Consider this picture: The Sphere Dev Team @ Reykjavik's exquisite Laundromat, it features some fine gentlemen, members of the venerable Pandemic Legion. The picture was taken in Reykjavik this year.
It will not be immediately obvious but if you zoom in a little on the shoulder of the pilot on the left, I'm sorry I do not have his name, if you should be reading this: greetings to you good sir, you will see that the sleeve reads "CCCP". This is in line with how the Sphere Dev team presents itself to the world. They also wore this attire at last year's fanfest.
Here they are mimicking CCP's Developer's shirts and logos. This must be as close to impersonation as you can get in the real world.
Query: is this a violation of the new ToS and can PL be sanctioned over wearing the attire at a public gathering such as fanfest?
I would like an answer to this question because it could become quite the conundrum as EVE's culture permeates our engagement with the environment and finds expression in how we behave, dress and interact with one another. |
Tron 3K
Ship Spinning Industries
94
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:05:00 -
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Abulurd Boniface wrote:There is a flap going on about the new ToS as it pertains to impersonating people. Scamming, it seems, is a dying art. As I was following this debate, I had this uncomfortable idea. Consider this picture: The Sphere Dev Team @ Reykjavik's exquisite Laundromat, it features some fine gentlemen, members of the venerable Pandemic Legion. The picture was taken in Reykjavik this year. It will not be immediately obvious but if you zoom in a little on the shoulder of the pilot on the left, I'm sorry I do not have his name, if you should be reading this: greetings to you good sir, you will see that the sleeve reads "CCCP". This is in line with how the Sphere Dev team presents itself to the world. They also wore this attire at last year's fanfest. Here they are mimicking CCP's Developer's shirts and logos. This must be as close to impersonation as you can get in the real world. Query: is this a violation of the new ToS and can PL be sanctioned over wearing the attire at a public gathering such as fanfest? I would like an answer to this question because it could become quite the conundrum as EVE's culture permeates our engagement with the environment and finds expression in how we behave, dress and interact with one another. If they wore that to the fanfest and was seen by developers don't you think something would of happened by now? Probably, but since nothing has changed in the TOS those that don't understand the logistics behind it just to protect their ass more but doesn't mean they'll act on anything. |
rofflesausage
State War Academy Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:08:00 -
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They look so absurd wearing them that it really doesn't matter. |
Tron 3K
Ship Spinning Industries
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:09:00 -
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rofflesausage wrote:They look so absurd wearing them that it really doesn't matter. poor jealous goon |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:11:00 -
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Are you saying that they're not actually a vessel for virulent diseases, and are misrepresenting themselves as such? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
19
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:12:00 -
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Too far removed - nobody should be fooled by "CCCP" as a fashion statement which is not intended to signify anything more important than that.
In Soviet Russia, Politburo scams you. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
642
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:15:00 -
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Abulurd Boniface wrote:There is a flap going on about the new ToS
Best summary of the situation so far.
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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rofflesausage
State War Academy Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:16:00 -
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Tron 3K wrote:rofflesausage wrote:They look so absurd wearing them that it really doesn't matter. poor jealous goon
Confirmed |
bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
264
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:25:00 -
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No ban. Simply remove all their titans and laugh at them. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:50:00 -
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I would think when the Dev team said there would be no change in how impersonation issues are handled your question would have been answered. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1458
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Posted - 2013.09.13 18:04:00 -
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perhaps they should be banned for impersonating revenant owners |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.09.13 18:07:00 -
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rofflesausage wrote:Tron 3K wrote:rofflesausage wrote:They look so absurd wearing them that it really doesn't matter. poor jealous goon Confirmed
Double-secret confirmed.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
304
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Posted - 2013.09.13 18:23:00 -
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I love the threads this TOS change is causing. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
Hommycyde
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.13 18:33:00 -
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I knew PL was clones of the same nerd! I freekin knew it! |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
842
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Posted - 2013.09.13 18:47:00 -
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... begins production of "Collector's Edition" tinfoilhats, in the vintage "1984" pattern...
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
367
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Posted - 2013.09.13 22:38:00 -
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Is that Big Hoss from pawn stars on the right ? |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
700
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Posted - 2013.09.13 22:40:00 -
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I am so done debating this ToS. I shot at somebodies ship today. It felt good. |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Secunda
525
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Posted - 2013.09.13 23:06:00 -
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Wearing personal attire in a public place........not really the realms of CCP is it? I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
Abulurd Boniface
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 23:13:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:Wearing personal attire in a public place........not really the realms of CCP is it?
But there's the rub: the point of the shirt was that it would be worn at fanfest and have at least a passing resemblance to the attire of the devs.
I'm not going to say that this will make the people at fanfest develop a chronic case of the stupid, at the same time, because this is EVE-related, at an EVE event, does -CCP- think this is a violation of the EULA? It doesn't matter what -we- think, it matters what -they- think. Hence this post.
When you start down the slippery slope, and there are examples aplenty, implied conditions start popping up in surprising places. The point here being: what is the reach of the ToS and what if our intrepid pod pilots come up with a new and exciting caper that will have all of us beaming with a bout of well-deserved mirth and CCP frowning about whether or not this [whatever 'this' is] should be allowed under the ToS?
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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
571
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Posted - 2013.09.13 23:44:00 -
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90% of the female characters in EVE are going to be banned? |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
5974
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Posted - 2013.09.13 23:47:00 -
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Skydell wrote:90% of the female characters in EVE are going to be banned?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
149
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Posted - 2013.09.14 04:15:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I am so done debating this ToS. I shot at somebodies ship today. It felt good.
Way to set the bar really, really low. Grats? |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.09.14 19:00:00 -
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Please discuss the TOS changes here.
For specific instances, please file a petition. ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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