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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.01.15 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Yeah baby your right
1.All pirates r greifer scumbags 2.Concord should be able to kill u in low sec and pop your pod 3.make sentry gun ranges unlimited 4.increase sentry damge so u die in one pop in a titan.
etc,etc,etc
On a more realistic note it would be nice to get a dev reply to this thead.There has been a lot of interest in it and given that piracy has no had a single word from devs in like a year would be interesting to hear what they think is the future of piracy IMO its very bleak indeed right now.
The fact is there aren't very many pirates in EVE. Their have been some very popular ones. However, most PvPers are Griefers. I don't load that word with contempt... that is just the fact of it. Griefers make this game interesting... but they aren't pirates. If you wanna call that a pirate then I could call a carebear an upstanding citizen of the empire... which is less than accurate. Fact is that it is tedious to be a pirate but it is absolutely without a doubt a functional part of eve's game mechanics. The devs have not made this game less attractive to pirates or griefers or fleet yanks. They are simply trying to balance the funfactor for all of these people and the carebears that suport the economy.
Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.15 08:25:00 -
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Quote: Inferno you r just a ******* alliance carebear.You know nothing about piracy or pvp. Your security status is 5.0 and u been in stain alliance for more than 1 year. Go PVE and keep out of threads on which u can offer no valid opinions
you just shown ur an idiot...i have a sec status of 5.0 becvause i dont feel the need to sit sniping gates to bolster my ego..and after a year of shooting npc's to by my combat gear....i would have a high sec status...but as for alliance caerbear..im sure any one from stain (especialy the early days of SA) will be able to tell you im one of the most antii alliance caerbears there is..my rants against them both in alliance chat and alliance forums were numerous. my char atm has been living in querious and catch fighting fix for almost a month non stop, before that i had a 3 weeks money making period, before that i was fighting G/IRON/SE, then before that i was fighting the empire war against FE/NBSI/SE/ i could go on and on. next time before you make half assed assumption over things you know nothing about..try find out about a person..while i know all i need to know about you...you know nothign about me. but then again i truly partake in PVP against people who shoot back not sitting in low sec snipping noob ships then proclaiming how much of a giant i am in eve. _____
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Jaketh Ivanes
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Posted - 2006.01.15 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jaketh Ivanes on 15/01/2006 10:32:46
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Eye for an eye while not affecting me or any pirate more than -5 has reduced the combat of those players who tend to keep around -2 or so so they can sort of part time pirate.Personally i have little sympathy for these part time pirates but now they can be killed by their victims in even 1.0 for up to a month afterwards means this option to part time piracy has obviously become a lot less attractive.
Lets look at it from the victims view. A part time pirate ganks a hauler going through low sec. What options does the victim have now? The part time pirate just enters empire and move across the galaxy to avoid retaliation.
Now the victim of the part time pirate, has an option to excert revenge, meaning the part time pirate, or piwate, can't carebear anymore and now has a risk to his profession. That said, he should still be able to fight back agenst those that have kill rights. Just like ore thiefs.
EDIT: Oh, and btw, I would keep playing even if all pirates/piwates had left the game, as it contributes nothing to my game experience. I prefer those that stand ground and fight. Those that take a risk. Those that truly PvP.
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Ginger Magician
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Posted - 2006.01.15 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Syme Ginger As one of your recent victims I can only concur that the removal of rates would ruin the game. It was an absolute pleasure to be blown up by you.
Thank you.It was a pleasure to pop u too lol. Its a great shame that this sort of attitude is not more prevalent in the game.This guy lost well over 30mill when i popped his iteron 5 yet he still has the balls to say well done as he appreciated the superior skills that enabled me to kill him where others had failed. But unfortunatley the prevalent attitude is either that us pirates are all greifer scumbags and you carebears are all noobs/non skilled players. Neither statement is correct. We all know that balancing the game is difficult - but the way it is now pirates have become an endangered species and without some help in future patches they may well become extinct in the not too distant future.
"May you die by the hand of a low life in real life for ruining the gaming experiance of others.Your scum and will never be anything better than the coward you are." |
Timothia
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Posted - 2006.01.15 11:34:00 -
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My god ginger. It doesn't exactly take that much superior skills to blow up an industrial now does it
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Defender ofCHAOS
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Posted - 2006.01.15 11:36:00 -
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Quote -We all know that balancing the game is difficult - but the way it is now pirates have become an endangered species and without some help in future patches they may well become extinct in the not too distant future. --
would be funn to see them extinct, ganking in low sec is for pvp carebears, real pvpers goes to 0.0 or yust wardecs there enemie, yust ganking noobs or people in haulers at low sec is pathetic. but geus some people need to fill there killsite with something
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Ginger Magician
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Posted - 2006.01.15 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Timothia My god ginger. It doesn't exactly take that much superior skills to blow up an industrial now does it
NO.But when u have blown up 2500 u do tend to get a bit of a reputation
"May you die by the hand of a low life in real life for ruining the gaming experiance of others.Your scum and will never be anything better than the coward you are." |
dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.15 12:03:00 -
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Quote: NO.But when u have blown up 2500 u do tend to get a bit of a reputation
and that ladies and gentelmen (or not so gentle..what ever the case may be) tells you all you need to know about ginger magician. _____
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:06:00 -
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what? that ginger likes the game, plays the game as ginger wants to?
seriously you should stfu , eve is an openended game, you can be a pirate a griefer a miner a labrat amisson runner, whatever you want.
thats the beuty of it.
too bad that apperantly you can also be an anal whiner too.
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Mordas
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:25:00 -
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alright cant read all the way to the end this thread is to daft..find a trader to run for you/spend a couple of days and make a hauler alt...you can babble all you want about pirates slimming up but my mates and i have been getting gate camped silly by collector of souls...rmr doesnt look to of affected them much or anything else pirate releated..just leveld out the field a bit..pirates are needed to keep macro mining a holes and carebares out of my nice low sec mining fields as its the only place to find ore these days../end (oh and cry more noobies)
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Za Po
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:55:00 -
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I don't think so. And I'm a carebear. A game without PvP eventually becomes boring. -------------------- This solution to BM-related server resource usage can reduce lag with the same interface. |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
Originally by: Dark Shikari I'm in a Ginger Magician thread
Your in every bloody thread that ever was
me too!
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:22:00 -
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i lost a kestrel to ginger in my first week.
no, if pirates disappeared, i wouldn't quit. but i don't think i'd have as much fun.
but i can't see the problem particularly that pirates might disappear now, unless i have misunderstood killrights.
the way i understand it:
killrights allow someone to wipe out anyone who has unlawfully podded them for upto a month after the kill
pirates who don't pod people are usually lawful (more than -5) and therefore aren't hit with the killrights in highsec (because they don't pod)
pirates who do podkill people are usually outlaws (less than -5), and therefore the killrights make no difference (they are viable targets wherever and whenever whatever)
pirates who Podkill take a huge sec hit, and therefore won't be greater than -5 for very long. and it makes RP sense that they would become free game for committing first degree murder.
pirates who are just out to make a profit don't need to podkill for anything but e-peen enlargement (drops no loot)
so, IMO, if thats how killrights work, they won't cripple the pirate profession at all
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moghiden
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:24:00 -
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Quote: what? that ginger likes the game, plays the game as ginger wants to?
seriously you should stfu , eve is an openended game, you can be a pirate a griefer a miner a labrat amisson runner, whatever you want.
thats the beuty of it.
too bad that apperantly you can also be an anal whiner too.[/
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moghiden
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:24:00 -
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Quote: what? that ginger likes the game, plays the game as ginger wants to?
seriously you should stfu , eve is an openended game, you can be a pirate a griefer a miner a labrat amisson runner, whatever you want.
thats the beuty of it.
too bad that apperantly you can also be an anal whiner too.[/
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:29:00 -
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moghiden is me btw...i hate it when i forget to chance my char _____
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Defender ofCHAOS
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: moghiden Edited by: moghiden on 15/01/2006 14:28:39
Quote: what? that ginger likes the game, plays the game as ginger wants to?
nope it tells us hes an egomaniac who needs to measure his e-pen by killing noobs/defensless ships..to the point he keeps count of how much haulers he has killed..then brags claiming it makes him a legend..like BE his braging on forums and other places...just makes him a joke
Quote: seriously you should stfu , eve is an openended game, you can be a pirate a griefer a miner a labrat amisson runner, whatever you want.+
yes it is wonderful that you can be what you want..at this time i have 3 accounts 1 of which holds my main char (or original char is more accurate) who is an alliance PVP char, the second holds my industiral support char while the thrid holds both a research char and a pirate char which i spend 3 months with and got bored of him.
Quote: thats the beuty of it.
indeed it is, this is why i have tried to sample all aspects of eve.
Quote: that apperantly you can also be an anal whiner too.
all to true, the amount of whinning threads such as this one and the millions of others on this forum is sickening...but its funny at the same time.
QFT
aslong the real pvpers stay the funn wil be in eve, pirates are no funn anyway, its easy to do and no funn to hunt them while they runn to a pos or station when combat ships apear instat of a hauler or noobship
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:38:00 -
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K ginger well dome , but insulting inferno you destroyed what little credibility this thread has
And how do you know you succeeded when others had failed when killing syme. Fact is your not godlike, your skills are possessed by all pirates: You are nothing special.
All that is unique is people laugh at you. Do you see people laughing at nero? No because he makes sensible arguments. If your gonna make an argument then make it properly instead of insulting peoples intelligence by saying they wouldnt understand.
Yes your a pirate, but no one respects you for it. Doesnt that tell you something?
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:39:00 -
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And defender of chaos, not all pirates run from combat ships. Your just letting the poor reputation of the few get in the way of the real pirates.
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Gloomash
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Originally by: Dark Shikari I'm in a Ginger Magician thread
Your in every bloody thread that ever was
me too!
You two sirs are forum *****s!
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Ginger Magician
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Velsharoon K ginger well dome , but insulting inferno you destroyed what little credibility this thread has
And how do you know you succeeded when others had failed when killing syme. Fact is your not godlike, your skills are possessed by all pirates: You are nothing special.
All that is unique is people laugh at you. Do you see people laughing at nero? No because he makes sensible arguments. If your gonna make an argument then make it properly instead of insulting peoples intelligence by saying they wouldnt understand.
Yes your a pirate, but no one respects you for it. Doesnt that tell you something?
Maybe but then ex-carebear gank squad pussies opinions dont really count actually.What i said about inferno was the simple truth thats why he got so upset about it.And syme told me he had escaped in his iteron 5 several times from pirate attacks which why i said that. The fact is i am the best known player in the game - and my opinions count whether u like it or not.
"May you die by the hand of a low life in real life for ruining the gaming experiance of others.Your scum and will never be anything better than the coward you are." |
Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing killrights allow someone to wipe out anyone who has unlawfully podded them for upto a month after the kill
Originally by: Kali Features Page eye for an eye You are allowed to revenge an unlawful destruction of your ship
Ship. Not pod. If it was pod, I'd completely agree with you, but it's ship.
It's not even what the nerfs do, it's that they're constant, steady and show no signs of letting up. It's become progressively harder and less profitable to pirate - the people screaming 'adapt or die' are going to have to let up soon, whether they like it or not. The simple fact is that CCP seem to think piracy is worthy of absolutely no boosts, ever, at all, should be all the warning you need.
But it hardly surprises me. CCP seem to have sold out on their principles in general. Ingame rewards for out of game efforts, counterstrike-style rebirth spawning, multiple shards, heavy emphasis on NPC-based gameplay and dependance, wussing out on changes (cough insta nerf) because of player whining, etc.
If you still want to complain that piracy is alive and kicking then go ahead, but you won't be able to deny it soon. Piracy has been dying for the last 2 and a half years, since that very first carebear whined that they were going to quit their sub because they got ganked and CCP's ears perked up... ___
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
Originally by: Velsharoon K ginger well dome , but insulting inferno you destroyed what little credibility this thread has
And how do you know you succeeded when others had failed when killing syme. Fact is your not godlike, your skills are possessed by all pirates: You are nothing special.
All that is unique is people laugh at you. Do you see people laughing at nero? No because he makes sensible arguments. If your gonna make an argument then make it properly instead of insulting peoples intelligence by saying they wouldnt understand.
Yes your a pirate, but no one respects you for it. Doesnt that tell you something?
Maybe but then ex-carebear gank squad pussies opinions dont really count actually.What i said about inferno was the simple truth thats why he got so upset about it.And syme told me he had escaped in his iteron 5 several times from pirate attacks which why i said that. The fact is i am the best known player in the game - and my opinions count whether u like it or not.
Why dont they count.
Fair enough about Syme.
What sort of fact is this? You had a poll done? Your opinion counts insomuch as all our opinions do. However maybe people will listen to us and not you as we have credibility.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:43:00 -
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This very much depends on what you meen by pirates.
If the PK gankers would get removed I would keep playing.
If the griefers were removed I would keep playing.
If the life of a lowsec pirate was made so chalenging that there were alot more non pirates in lowsec then pirates I would keep playing.
If cPvP was curbed so hard it was not possible anywhere in empire then I would probably keep playing but I would vocally complain about it.
If all cPvP was removed from the entire game I dont think I would have to worry as the game would get closed down by CCP as that is not what they intended to create.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:46:00 -
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Quote: Maybe but then ex-carebear gank squad pussies opinions dont really count actually.
sorry to dissapoint you but ive never been a caerbear (well apart from a 3 day period in my first month..but i think temporary insanity covers that).
My first PVP expirience was in my 3rd week of the game, from then i had my first war a week after...then i had a relitive time of peace only having brief encoutners in corridor (usualy traveling around in a destroyer looking for suitable targets), but since the xetic war ive not gone more than 3 weeks without fighting. (anyhow i dont see why im bothering to justify myself to a fool like you..any one who has meet me in the past year will know my..lust for destroying other ships...i just prefere targets what fight back..ive always enjoyed a challenge)
but even if i was a caerbear it would not mean my opinion is worth any less than yours..just because you are notorious as the games clown..does not realy mean that your opinion is any more/less valid than some one who is unkown..its the content of the post what matter not who makes it..and tbh your posts are either whinning or beating your own chest so they are quite worthless. _____
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
Originally by: HippoKing killrights allow someone to wipe out anyone who has unlawfully podded them for upto a month after the kill
Originally by: Kali Features Page eye for an eye You are allowed to revenge an unlawful destruction of your ship
Ship. Not pod. If it was pod, I'd completely agree with you, but it's ship.
ah, thanks for clearing that up. it SHOULD be pod
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Inferno you r just a ******* alliance carebear.You know nothing about piracy or pvp. Your security status is 5.0 and u been in stain alliance for more than 1 year. Go PVE and keep out of threads on which u can offer no valid opinions.
words of ignorence from a known griefer...
My main has +5 and kills trolls like you all the time in 0.0 where he wont get a sec hit...so little troll, what other words of ignorence do you have to entertain us with?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.15 17:08:00 -
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and just for the record: i have no problems with pirates or piracy. on the other hand, i do have a problem with obnoxious pompous ****s, and unfortunately that group includes gingermagician.
you've posted a thread. is it possible for people to disagree with you without getting flamed or called a carebear?
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2006.01.15 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
The fact is i am the best known player in the game - and my opinions count whether u like it or not.
I beg to differ, Im not a very high profile player but I have read alot of posts on the forum and have been an active player from this chars birth till now and I dont have the foggiest idea who you are apart from what I have read in this thread.
I do know of alot of people ingame, imfamous or famous, The Reverend, Viceroy, Tzadkiel, Winterblink so on and so forth. Your name however has made no impression whatsoever on me good or bad.
If youy are as bad as you seem to think then a player like me should have your name in my head with a pathetic warning next to it like I have for the name TankCEO but no.
As for your opinions counting, naturally they do but only as much as my opinions do or your average random players opinion does.
As for the destruction of 2500 industrials giving you a reputation... yes it does, for keeping track of that many industrial kills you get the reputation pathetic in my mind and thus you slide into the same category as TankCEO.
And on the issue of TankCEO, I never have been able to get over his very amusing claim that you should not be able to simply gank people for no reason that he made while playing the Lineage2 beta :)
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Vole Tanzar
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Posted - 2006.01.15 18:40:00 -
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No. Without pirates Eve would be like every other MMPORPG - watching a set of numbers get bigger. Non-consential PvP adds the risk that makes it into a game.
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