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Laertes Ansari
Federation Army
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Posted - 2013.09.17 19:34:00 -
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Having only played the game for ~5 days I was curious as to what corporations are really like. I got lucky to meet some great guys who plucked me from Rookie Help, but I have a feeling they are in the minority. Then again, I've been in high sec this whole time and have no knowledge of what low sec/null sec corporations are like.
For example, I know some of the big ones are (were?) GoonSwarm, Goonwaffe, maybe a couple other "Goon" corps, Test(?), and a few others. I'm pretty sure those are/were just known for their antics. Are there other corps that actively oppose them, though? For example, during the one or two "Burn Jita" campaigns I heard about, did any other corporations band together to protect player assets in Jita (if anything could have been done in the first place)?
I've heard about other corps that are much more specific so I'm assuming there are corps strictly for mining, PvE missions, PvP, exploration, etc. Think I even heard a couple that dealt in 'tourism,' lol.
Somewhat of an odd question, but thanks in advance for any helpful answers |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
44852
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Posted - 2013.09.17 19:39:00 -
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Prepare thyself for 450,000 absolutely differing opinions.
It'll be 'enlightening' if not 'helpful'.
Oh...and here is a salt shaker for you. You'll need it. one. grain. at. a. time. |
Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
508
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Posted - 2013.09.17 19:53:00 -
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Corps are like... groups of people with their own special tag on their name and come with their own special chat channel that no one can be invited to unless they are a part of that special group.
It's pretty cool. This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3544
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Posted - 2013.09.17 19:56:00 -
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--> EVE New Citizens Q&A
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Kaizoe Ocshtau
Aliastra Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.09.17 19:58:00 -
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Corps are, to paraphrase Charles Dickens in the opening of A Tale Of Two Cities "it is the best of things, it is the worst of things". It will either be very helpful and fun, or it will be a total skullfu...dgery where nothing happens and someone is always pissed everyone, and/or everything. |
baltec1
Bat Country
8020
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Posted - 2013.09.17 20:09:00 -
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No point in mentioning these bats, I thought. Poor bastard will see them soon enough. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
3246
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Posted - 2013.09.17 20:18:00 -
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Imagine an S&M chamber of steamy verbal man love and spite. We hate each other with love and love each other with hate. And then we drown it all in a sea of microbrews, rum, and hilarious blotto.
That's what my corp experience has been like. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4575
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Posted - 2013.09.17 20:25:00 -
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We have fun, sometimes there are people to shoot and their tears spray out in local like a hacking site minigame.
Or we shoot structures and harvest the "stronger without sov" posts from areas like reddit.
Or perhaps we go out and make fun of much more fearsome coalitions which exist to destroy us. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Sir Jack Falstaff
The Not So Jolly Rogers Academy
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Posted - 2013.09.17 20:38:00 -
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There really is no one answer to this question, as corps are going to be vastly different depending on the people in them and what they're doing. You've got PvP corps, PvE corps, industrial corps, newbie corps, veteran corps, industrial corps, etc. etc. (and frequently these overlap).
But corps are the best thing about Eve. Despite all our bit**ing and moaning on these forums, I think most will agree flying out with others is what it's all about. Whether it's small gang or a large fleet op...
You warp into system and your FC is calling out targets, scouts calling out neutrals or hostiles in neighboring systems as you open up on a Caldari FW corps station with 50 dreads, then afterwards go off with a few of your buddies to hunt down trouble in Amarr systems...ahh that's the stuff. Banish plump Jack, and banish all the world. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe WAFFLES.
4183
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Posted - 2013.09.17 23:42:00 -
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They're like Rai-i-in on your wedding day.
Like the guilds of any other game, they're all different. Different purposes, different cultures, different attitudes. Find one that you fit in with and thrive. Find one that you don't and wilt. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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Prince Sanguine
Norse'Storm Battle Group Circle-Of-Two
53
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Posted - 2013.09.18 00:17:00 -
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I'm not saying everyone in the cfc is sexy, but we are. U w0t mate?! fight me IRL.! do you even lift?! |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
2389
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Posted - 2013.09.18 00:21:00 -
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You Join a corp.. get war decced and then nobody logs in for a week. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
4075
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:53:00 -
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Corporations are mostly like a bunch of people. To understand further, you need to answer the question, "what are people mostly like," and then do some research into, "how do people typically behave when gathered together?"
The right corporation will mean you can't wait to log in to the game. The wrong corporation will mean you stop logging in altogether. There is no "normal" and leadership styles range from authoritarian & dictatorial through to laissez-faire casuals who just say hello every now and then. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
BoSau Hotim
uitraan diversified holdings incorporated
7015
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Posted - 2013.09.18 02:46:00 -
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Laertes Ansari wrote:Having only played the game for ~5 days I was curious as to what corporations are really like. I got lucky to meet some great guys who plucked me from Rookie Help, but I have a feeling they are in the minority. Then again, I've been in high sec this whole time and have no knowledge of what low sec/null sec corporations are like. For example, I know some of the big ones are (were?) GoonSwarm, Goonwaffe, maybe a couple other "Goon" corps, Test(?), and a few others. I'm pretty sure those are/were just known for their antics. Are there other corps that actively oppose them, though? For example, during the one or two "Burn Jita" campaigns I heard about, did any other corporations band together to protect player assets in Jita (if anything could have been done in the first place)? I've heard about other corps that are much more specific so I'm assuming there are corps strictly for mining, PvE missions, PvP, exploration, etc. Think I even heard a couple that dealt in 'tourism,' lol. Somewhat of an odd question, but thanks in advance for any helpful answers
There is a difference between corporations and Alliances. Alliances are corporation that have officially banded together and that is what goonswarm, Test, AAA, etc are.
All of them are as varying as the people who play. It's excellent that you got in with a good group of people to begin with. I don't think that is necessarily the way it usually goes.
there are some corps/alliances that focus on specific things such as industry or pvp. My attitude towards burn jita was just to let it pass as I really didn't care about it. May sound harsh, but Eve is harsh. Those people who don't pay attention to events that are announced and talked about on the forums are going to get burned most likely. So I try to keep informed, and inform others.
Getting a perspective on how large alliances are can be as easy as doing research on the main groups. Google, EVewho.com and the battleclinic kb's can be useful in researching. I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1503
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Posted - 2013.09.18 03:11:00 -
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There's the bad. Your average highsec corp is a guy who doesn't really have much of an idea recruiting out of the recruitment channel, taking anyone. Membership is small, inexperienced. No safeguards in place. Not much in the way of working together. There's the dying PVP corp where leadership is away and most members aren't logging on regularly, or the most experienced/useful/sociable pilots have left for more active corps.
You want a good corp because it's just more enjoyable for you. If that sounds selfish... it is. If a corp doesn't make fun for its members it's a bad corp. If membership is having fun, they play, they do things together, they make more fun, they gain experience and are successful in what they do.
For a newbie, it's almost essential to join an established corp with some veteran members that are willing to help you out. There are some success stories of newbie corps doing well for themselves, but they're very rare. A just-starting corp won't do. I think a new corp needs commited vets, not newbies, to get the ball rolling, and newbies need older, veteran corps to get themselves into and experienced in the game.
Then again. I've been in the same corp for my whole time in EVE so far. So I might not have the knowledge to comment.
My corp, CTQ, is a lowsec corp right now. I'm not one of the more experienced or active members. Most of my time logged in recently has been spent in station, undocking mainly for PvE or to help out in a fleet. Leadership's generally chill, but there are some rules. Any rules are for the benefit of the members, though. Also leadership wants to keep a competent PVP corp, so some level of competence or enthusiasm seems to be expected from members. I haven't heard obsession over personal killboard stats (mine's not impressive) or general spaceship losses (**** happens) there'll sometimes be words over a thoughtless, avoidable loss.
Members'll generally putter about doing whatever they want to do. Some of our guys like to PVP around lowsec space solo or with a partner. There's a few guys more interested in PVE. Some probably mine and manufacture, but on alts. I'm generally alt+tabbed out to a DVD if online (this is why i'm poor btw). There's light chatter in comms or in our ingame public chat channel. Talking about fits or the guy Liam just shot. People will grab others from corp to help out with PVE, they'll coordinate in some projects (starbases, maybe manufacturing) or they'll ask for help if there's trouble about.
Other times, one of our guys will fly a bigger fleet around. Some corps/alliances have specified members who are allowed to run certain size fleets. I don't think we have such roles, but in EVE there are not very many people who feel confident in leading other people and risking other people's personal assets. The guy willing to step up to the plate is generally the guy who's able to do the job, though. I haven't seen a mandatory fleet yet. Most of our members will keep a selection of ships in hangar, and when we go out, the more experienced guys and the FC'll discuss the best types of ships to bring along. Or everyone turns up on the undock flying whatever. It depends.
I find flying in a small fleet the most enjoyable part of the game. I'm capable of flying solo, but I don't like it as much. I guess some prefer the thrill and challenge of engaging by themselves for success, and I like working with others for success. Some engagements in a fleet are just straight ganks (why would we let that guy just fly right past us) but the best engagements are against another fleet.
We've moved several times in the past, for reasons. Assets get sold off or trucked around. Members with carriers are kind enough to jump ships and modules off to new places.
We have some close friends in other corps that we'll fly with. We have some enemies around, too, and I guess some enemies that are also friends? Leadership is happy to get along with/goodfight other alliances when there's an amount of mutual respect involved. Lowsec relationships are often like that. We've had some friends where there was a lot of disrespect involved, too. They became enemies without prior notice.
So yeah a corp is just a group of people, in the end, I guess? I'm lucky enough to be with a corp that has some chill, experienced, generally tolerable people. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1503
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Posted - 2013.09.18 03:16:00 -
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that's pretty much a description of your general lowsec alliance except everyone in casoff have bigger wangs than everyone else |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
105
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Posted - 2013.09.18 07:15:00 -
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They're what keeps you logging in and having fun instead of dying alone and quitting over blob and ganks.
Some are generalist and do a bit of everything, others are focused mostly on one flavor of gameplay. All in all, think of what you enjoy in the game and then go looking for a suitable corporation - preferably an estabilished one that has a few veterans that'll make learning how to fit and fly a bit less painful. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet? |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
705
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Posted - 2013.09.18 08:22:00 -
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We are a pretty typical lowsec corp, to us PVP and PVE in our home systems and beyond, is our main focus. Mining and manufacturing are afterthoughts really, and more or less serve to cut down on costs on ammo and fuel, or as people's personal income stream. Since we are mostly 30+ men with lives and wives, we don't do mandatory ops but we do try to entice / praise / reward participation.
Because we realize players will sometimes find themselves solo or in small groups, we advocate a piratical mindset and playstyle. The social aspect is mostly about sharing killmails, funny anecdotes, pvp and piracy tricks, and having a few common enemies (rival local corps). We are part of a more generalist alliance so there is some market interaction apart from simply fleeting up with our friends. |
Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
30788
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Posted - 2013.09.18 08:31:00 -
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We have secretly won Eve. This secret was so well kept that nobody outside our alliance had even noticed it. So, lacking anything meaningful to do after that, we decided to reset everything and drop all sov for a while so we could win Eve a second time. Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
301
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Posted - 2013.09.18 08:45:00 -
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Easy way to describe alliances and the various corporations within larger ones...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo9bKdIG_Yw
Old song. *snicker* |
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Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.09.18 10:35:00 -
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I see two kinds of corpos : 1) the ones which are just a chatbox for people who play alone in their corner. 2) the ones where people actually do something together, often and regulary, whatever it is, and who even can share a common goal.
My humble opinion : choose a corpo where there is enough members who are regulary active and motivated. If not, don't lose your time, even if they are friendly. |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Secunda
526
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Posted - 2013.09.18 10:53:00 -
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Never join a corp that describes itself as a
"Chilled place for people to hang in" I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
851
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Posted - 2013.09.18 11:23:00 -
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Some corps are just a group of friends having fun, irregardless of the corp "goal" or "ambition". They are usually newbie-friendly, have a high interest in promoting the game and don't take things too seriously.
Other corps, well, they are run by less-friendly individuals who have "issues" -- to put it both politely and charitably. AVOID those corps like the plague, as said individuals usually take the game way too seriously for you to have any fun and they are mostly playing for their own gratification at your expense, irregardless of how "wunderbar" they might make things sound to be playing in their little corner.
Often, they will have you off doing some menial task that benefits their agenda more than yours, and of course they will justify it by saying "this is how you learn" or "we like team players, so do it for the team". Chances are if you feel like you're being treated like a peon, then they are treating you like a peon.
Bottom line, INVEST the TIME in talking to recruiters for a good long time to find out what you are getting into BEFORE you click the "Apply" button.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
1326
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Posted - 2013.09.18 12:09:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Prepare thyself for 450,000 absolutely differing opinions.
It'll be 'enlightening' if not 'helpful'.
Oh...and here is a salt shaker for you. You'll need it. one. grain. at. a. time.
hehe, 100% this ^
To briefly answer your questions - If you had a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being "the worst" and 10 being "best attitude", you will find many Corps and Alliances to slot in to all of the numbers, with many in between as well.
Variety is the spice of life, what you do with it is entirely up to you. You will bump your head along the way, but so what ? This is a game and many people actually forget that one aspect - this is a game.
Good luck out there, have fun.
o7
Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1169
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Posted - 2013.09.18 12:35:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Find one that you fit in with and thrive. Find one that you don't and wilt.
All that needs to be said.
Thread closed.
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