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Drake Bonding
Trans-Aerospace Industries
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Posted - 2013.09.18 17:36:00 -
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I'm gonna make this easy. Ive seen a "perfected" hulk but idk what the others do at their max. I only account for ore but feel free to include information about ice or gas. Max means all necessary skills at 5, utilizing mining drones (specify harvesters/T2 mining), and utilizing modulated strip miners w/ crystals. I also want informations about both orca and rorqual in the most efficient boosting setups (necessary skills maxxed as well).
Example Template:
Ship: EHP: -Ore Mining- m3/cycle (alone): m3/cycle (orca): m3/cycle (rorqual): m3/hour (alone): m3/hour (orca): m3/hour (rorqual): -Ice Mining- ..... .....
Alrighty thx guys. |
Ammzi
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1474
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Posted - 2013.09.18 17:39:00 -
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No trolling please. quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
114
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Posted - 2013.09.18 17:46:00 -
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Drake Bonding wrote:I'm gonna make this easy. Ive seen a "perfected" hulk but idk what the others do at their max. I only account for ore but feel free to include information about ice or gas. Max means all necessary skills at 5, utilizing mining drones (specify harvesters/T2 mining), and utilizing modulated strip miners w/ crystals. I also want informations about both orca and rorqual in the most efficient boosting setups (necessary skills maxxed as well).
Example Template:
Ship: EHP: -Ore Mining- m3/cycle (alone): m3/cycle (orca): m3/cycle (rorqual): m3/hour (alone): m3/hour (orca): m3/hour (rorqual): -Ice Mining- ..... .....
Alrighty thx guys.
In what kinda sec space you want to mine?
The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1459
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Posted - 2013.09.18 17:49:00 -
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Drake Bonding wrote:I'm gonna make this easy.
So you are, in fact, confirming that you're going to download EFT and do the work yourself? Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Winchester Steele
105
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Posted - 2013.09.18 18:05:00 -
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I have no idea how to fit a mining ship for yield, but what I can tell you is that if you intend to mine in hi-sec, please ensure that your mining permit is in order before you do so. You may purchase this permit from myself or any authorized Agent for the sum of 10m isk.
Remember, Permit Tank = Best Tank.
Go with the Code,
WS. ... |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
152
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Posted - 2013.09.18 18:06:00 -
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very tempted to make a post full of false numbers; too lazy to bother.
Go EFT it yourself. |
Sakaron Hefdover
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.09.18 18:12:00 -
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kk
Ship: Retriever EHP: Medium -Ore Mining- Medium |
Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
47
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Posted - 2013.09.18 19:19:00 -
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Well you just might as well ask us to do the mining for you and donate the ore to you.
God is it me or the "newer" players are at a point of lazy where they have to think about taking a breath to continue living.
or
I might be turning into a "bitter vet"
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Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2013.09.18 19:22:00 -
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I can't believe the attitude of this guy.
**** you and do the work yourself ! |
Bernie Nator
4U Services Inc. Upholders
610
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Posted - 2013.09.18 19:29:00 -
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First, look at the ship in question. Then, read "attributes".
There, that was easy! |
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2106
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Posted - 2013.09.18 19:30:00 -
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Max yield isn't as important anymore. Now pilots need to make cargo and EHP choices.
Example: the Hulk has the potential for the highest yield, but has the smallest cargo and a fairly low EHP.
I also second the suggestion to go download EFT. |
BenDover
Maraque Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2013.09.18 19:54:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:I have no idea how to fit a mining ship for yield, but what I can tell you is that if you intend to mine in hi-sec, please ensure that your mining permit is in order before you do so. You may purchase this permit from myself or any authorized Agent for the sum of 10m isk. Remember, Permit Tank = Best Tank. Go with the Code, WS.
Kids experimenting with fascism in a virtual environment: "New Order" in a nutshell.
Don't pay their ridiculous permit. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4581
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:30:00 -
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BenDover wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:I have no idea how to fit a mining ship for yield, but what I can tell you is that if you intend to mine in hi-sec, please ensure that your mining permit is in order before you do so. You may purchase this permit from myself or any authorized Agent for the sum of 10m isk. Remember, Permit Tank = Best Tank. Go with the Code, WS. Kids experimenting with fascism in a virtual environment: "New Order" in a nutshell. Don't pay their ridiculous permit. I don't because I mine in nullsec.
Space communist land There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4581
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:31:00 -
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A quick inspection of my space rock riches reveals I will have to pay approximately 50 million in taxes to my space overlords There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Dave Stark
3700
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:34:00 -
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not sure if lazy, or unable to do basic mathematics.... |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
477
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:36:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:No trolling please. *snerk* |
Winchester Steele
106
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Posted - 2013.09.18 21:13:00 -
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BenDover wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:I have no idea how to fit a mining ship for yield, but what I can tell you is that if you intend to mine in hi-sec, please ensure that your mining permit is in order before you do so. You may purchase this permit from myself or any authorized Agent for the sum of 10m isk. Remember, Permit Tank = Best Tank. Go with the Code, WS. Kids experimenting with fascism in a virtual environment: "New Order" in a nutshell. Don't pay their ridiculous permit.
Thanks for giving me that square on my miner bingo card.
Also, it has been a long time since I was a "kid" experimenting with anything but i'll excuse your buttmad ignorance and help you fix your post anyhow...
Selfless men and women saving miners from becoming robots and teaching them about proper EvE gameplay: "New Order" in a nutshell ... |
Steel Olgidar
Silent Walkers
7
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Posted - 2013.09.18 22:52:00 -
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The new order is just another way to milk carebears for their isk. No respect for any of that rabble. Veiling your extortion through "teaching miners to play eve" is BS. Miners play eve their way, you and your crew play yours and everyone else gives zero ****'s about either of you unless you show up red on our overviews.
As has been said to the OP: take some time fit some fits and test things. Don't expect anyone here to do that for you.
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BenDover
Maraque Enterprises
3
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Posted - 2013.09.18 23:26:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:BenDover wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:I have no idea how to fit a mining ship for yield, but what I can tell you is that if you intend to mine in hi-sec, please ensure that your mining permit is in order before you do so. You may purchase this permit from myself or any authorized Agent for the sum of 10m isk. Remember, Permit Tank = Best Tank. Go with the Code, WS. Kids experimenting with fascism in a virtual environment: "New Order" in a nutshell. Don't pay their ridiculous permit. Thanks for giving me that square on my miner bingo card. Also, it has been a long time since I was a "kid" experimenting with anything but i'll excuse your buttmad ignorance and help you fix your post anyhow... Selfless men and women saving miners from becoming robots and teaching them about proper EvE gameplay: "New Order" in a nutshell
There is no such thing as "Proper EvE gameplay". And if there was, it would certainly not involve a near cult-devotion to an idiot of a man who built a massive and seemingly complex in-game structure to justify a simple and predictable game mechanic. Namely:
Quote:The new order is just another way to milk carebears for their isk.
Take your religious schizophrenic bullshit elsewhere. It's bad enough that we have to deal with it in local. |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
20919
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Posted - 2013.09.18 23:31:00 -
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BenDover wrote:Kids experimenting with fascism in a virtual environment: "New Order" in a nutshell.
Don't pay their ridiculous permit. Agreed...
BenDover wrote:Take your religious schizophrenic bullshit elsewhere. It's bad enough that we have to deal with it in local. ...and I don't have to say anything else about it. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1510
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Posted - 2013.09.18 23:32:00 -
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Steel Olgidar wrote:The new order is just another way to milk carebears for their isk. No respect for any of that rabble. Veiling your extortion through "teaching miners to play eve" is BS. Miners play eve their way, you and your crew play yours and everyone else gives zero ****'s about either of you unless you show up red on our overviews.
If it was extortion, why would they ask for only ten million ISK a year when an Exhumer costs hundreds of millions?
BenDover wrote:Quote:The new order is just another way to milk carebears for their isk. Take your religious schizophrenic bullshit elsewhere. It's bad enough that we have to deal with it in local.
Oh dear |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
20920
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Posted - 2013.09.18 23:36:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:If it was extortion, why would they ask for only ten million ISK a year when an Exhumer costs hundreds of millions? Because, if you'd ask 1$ from every household in the US would still make you a multi millionaire? It still would be extortion though... and therefore illegal. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1510
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Posted - 2013.09.18 23:38:00 -
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ten million is less than a hundred million, please keep up |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
571
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Posted - 2013.09.18 23:42:00 -
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There really isn't much difference for the casual miner. It only adds up over hundreds or thousands of hrs. Exceptiopn being hulk and the T1 because they didn't get any role bonus.
The Macki role bonus as well as a Skiff role bonus makes their cycles shorter to such a point they match the other class of ships if role bonus didn't count for that ship. In different terms, A skiff is like mining in an unbonused Mackinaw. A Mackinaw is like mining in an unbonused Hulk.
I use skiff when I want to mine but know I shouldn't. They do have 100K EHP tanks. I mine with a Mackinaw when I think it's safe enough. I always have a DCU on and I always tank them. I refuse to use a hulk because they crippled it too much in the hold. 3 lasers x 3 cycles on Ice is 9K. They gave it? 8K. And they did it on purpose. |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
20920
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Posted - 2013.09.18 23:42:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:ten million is less than a hundred million, please keep up Whatever, 1 ISK is to much for mindless tools like those NO people... vOv "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases |
Steel Olgidar
Silent Walkers
7
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Posted - 2013.09.18 23:42:00 -
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Extortion is the act of threatening someone for something they have. Give us 10 mil or get ganked sure seems like extortion to me. The cost is more or less irrelevant.
I could fly about telling people to buy permits for space camping, blow em up when they don't and claim I'm "helping" them. If they buy a permit I can link a bookmarked location and then they can camp ( sit in space doing nothing) safely wherever I am.
Yeah New Order you do sound that dumb, and I feel bad for all those miners who gave you isk. I'd rather lose any mining ship than kowtow to some low brow self-proclaimed leader.... |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe WAFFLES.
4187
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Posted - 2013.09.19 00:06:00 -
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Drake Bonding wrote:I'm gonna make this easy. Ive seen a "perfected" hulk but idk what the others do at their max. I only account for ore but feel free to include information about ice or gas. Max means all necessary skills at 5, utilizing mining drones (specify harvesters/T2 mining), and utilizing modulated strip miners w/ crystals. I also want informations about both orca and rorqual in the most efficient boosting setups (necessary skills maxxed as well).
Example Template:
Ship: EHP: -Ore Mining- m3/cycle (alone): m3/cycle (orca): m3/cycle (rorqual): m3/hour (alone): m3/hour (orca): m3/hour (rorqual): -Ice Mining- ..... .....
Alrighty thx guys.
Ship: EHP: -Ore Mining- m3/cycle (alone): One Dolla m3/cycle (non-orca fleet): Two Dolla m3/cycle (orca): Three Dolla m3/cycle (rorqual): Mo m3/hour (alone): Fo Dolla m3/hour (non-orca fleet): Five Dolla m3/hour (orca): Six Dolla m3/hour (rorqual): Score!
Steel Olgidar wrote:Extortion is the act of threatening someone for something they have. Give us 10 mil or get ganked sure seems like extortion to me. The cost is more or less irrelevant.
What's wrong with racketeering? "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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Steel Olgidar
Silent Walkers
7
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Posted - 2013.09.19 00:11:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote: What's wrong with racketeering?
Absolutely nothing, clothing it as some higher form of playing or a service just leaves a dirty taste in my mouth. If ganking and extortion is your style then by all means, go forth and racket your way to the top. Just don't tell me you're doing me any favors. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe WAFFLES.
4187
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Posted - 2013.09.19 00:13:00 -
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Steel Olgidar wrote:RubyPorto wrote: What's wrong with racketeering?
Absolutely nothing, clothing it as some higher form of playing or a service just leaves a dirty taste in my mouth. If ganking and extortion is your style then by all means, go forth and racket your way to the top. Just don't tell me you're doing me any favors.
So you're ok with Extortion, but not ok with roleplaying. Gotcha.
Seems like an odd place to draw the line. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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Mac Munoz
Only One Corp
8
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Posted - 2013.09.19 00:17:00 -
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Steel Olgidar wrote:Extortion is the act of threatening someone for something they have. Give us 10 mil or get ganked sure seems like extortion to me. The cost is more or less irrelevant.
I could fly about telling people to buy permits for space camping, blow em up when they don't and claim I'm "helping" them. If they buy a permit I can link a bookmarked location and then they can camp ( sit in space doing nothing) safely wherever I am.
Yeah New Order you do sound that dumb, and I feel bad for all those miners who gave you isk. I'd rather lose any mining ship than kowtow to some low brow self-proclaimed leader....
The cost associated with a permit, IMO, is to protect against petitions. If you didn't charge people IMO it could be ruled as griefing, however charging then makes it a valid way to earn a living by means of extortion.
That all said I support the New Order as you can clearly see in my bio so take my opinion for what it's worth. At the end of the day it just adds awesomeness to the virtual world we all love. |
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