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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2013.09.21 12:46:00 -
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Drones have to be managed better since a few patches back. You now need to watch for when they steal aggro, and then recall them. They still won't always survive,, but there's a good chance of it if your alert to the change.
Missions are predictable, and there's only so many of them. Eventually you will learn "missioning"
Use eve-survival, use the helpmymission channel, use your corp (or join one) yes missions can be run solo, but they are so much easier when not alone |
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.21 12:55:00 -
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Much better when we have more infos :) I sometimes run lvl 3 missions with a wolf for the fun, it's actually quite fast and effective in fact. If you add a salvager and loot the best items, you'll be able to make like 100 M in one week. In the other hand if you die so often in mission for now and are so short on money, you'd maybe not risk a T2 ship, as the insurrance repayment is very low. Things would definitely be more easy and rewarding if you join a good "new players friendly" corpo in high sec to improve your missioning skills, that way you'd become financially self-sufficient. |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:29:00 -
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Trazalian Mangeiri wrote:
Don't have one fitted right now, but my cane fit would be large extenders, medium T2 booster, AB, and PG upgrades on the low slots because I always seem to run out, plus they boost my passive shield regen.
that is part of your problem, you are mixing passive and active tanking. Instead of extenders use hardeners, they are easier to fit and actually work alongside a booster. It really would help if you could post your fit exactly, or use one of the suggested fits. If you want we can go through the details of each module in more detail as you seem to make the classic mistake of mixing your tanking. I know I did it too, gah my first brutix (back in the day before there even was a myrmidon) was.. horrible :)
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Archibald Thistlewaite III
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:46:00 -
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Op if this is your usual Hurricane fit you need to go back to the drawing board.
Download EFT and import your skills and play around with the different modules. See what sort of effect they have on your ship.
If you are struggling to make enough isk to replace your ships downgrade into cruisers and frigates. At least until you can fit your battlecruiser. |
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.21 19:55:00 -
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What the lady said.
For a passive shield tank, you want to increase your shield size, shorten the recharge time and increase resists. For an active shield tank, you want to increase your cap recharge, add shield boost amplifiers and increase resists.
You want stats that have a good synergy between each other. But a shield extender does nothing for your booster. You'll just get a bad passive and bad active recharge rate instead of one great one. Basically, mixing an active and passive shield tank is bad because (10 * 10) + (0*0) > (5*5) + (5*5) |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2110
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:58:00 -
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I like to run level 3 missions in an Assault Frigate, blaster Harpy. The only level 3 mission I can't do with this ship is one where there are stasis webbing tower and an energy neutralizing tower; when I get that mission I use an artillery Hurricane battlecruiser instead.
Missions primary require the ability to not bite off more than you can chew, i.e. don't aggro a whole room or pop all the wave triggers unless you can deal with that.
With the Assault Frigate fitted with an afterburner nothing can really hit it, so I just shoot everything. |
MadMuppet
AirHogs Zulu People
898
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Posted - 2013.09.22 14:15:00 -
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Part of me is wondering if you did a mission that wasn't intended for you to stick around in to fight it out (Recon), a mission that is just plain hard and nasty (Blockade), or you got a mission that has a split racial force so you were not tanked for them (Worlds Collide).
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports
^^ as others have said, read up on them here or other simlar sites before you go in. Also, make a list of the ones you have trouble with so that you can consider avoiding them in the future. You are allowed to pass on a mission with an agent every 4 hours without penalty. (once you except it though you will take a hit, so read up first, then hit accept). I mine in EVE because I'm too drunk to fish in WoW.-á |
Silver Dagger Kondur
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.22 16:57:00 -
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great stuff! thx for the info, everyone! |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2013.09.22 17:16:00 -
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The advice given on ships, fittings, and the like are all good sources of info and don't need repeating.
As for profitability of high sec missions. They are, done correctly of course, a zero risk venture and the rewards reflect this. You are really only risking a ship loss to inattention, poor play, or more likely- gankers if you fly something shiny.
If anything, the Risk vs Reward for high sec missions is skewed heavily in the players' favor. Additionally, how much isk you 'need' is a function of what you want to do. An evening of L3 grinding can generate the money to purchase an L4 runner ship. If you are a mission runner, what else do you need wealth for?
Lastly, this is an MMO and Eve greatly rewards playing with other people. Make friends, fleet up, take on much better content than solo mission running. You'll make more, learn more, and have far more fun.
As a newb I ran missions for pennies too, but with two other total newbs we were able to find a WH and beat up Sleepers for massive (to me at the time) rewards. Not only did the rewards far out-pace the skill and experience of my friends and I, but it was simply FUN where running missions alone had me seriously question my subscription.
Make friends, fleet up. You'll probably abandon missions entirely in favor of much more interesting content. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2110
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Posted - 2013.09.22 17:46:00 -
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For what it is worth, my level 3 Hurricane is fitted as follows. I don't claim it is optimal, just that it works for me and I like it.
Noteworthy is that it doesn't have a 3rd gyrostabilizer because it also has a damage rig, and that it uses a reactive hardener, so it works for any NPC damage type (to save capacitor, don't activate it until you start to take armor damage). The auto targeter is just to add more lockable targets, so it doesn't need to be activated. I carry Tremor and Quake, as well as scripts for optimal.
[Hurricane, Level 3 Arty] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Reactive Armor Hardener Medium Armor Repairer II
Cap Recharger II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script 10MN Afterburner II
Auto Targeting System II 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M
Medium Auxillary Nano Pump I Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Hobgoblin II x6 |
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Loed Kane
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.23 09:20:00 -
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join a big 00 bloc train to salvage make tons of isk while you learn how 00 works then get a rating boat make tons of isk learn the market invest in the market. another suggestion is salvage your friends and corp mates missions sell it all on the market or find someone that will buy the loot from you. i think there is a chat channel that you can join people will let you salvage their missions. i dont know if my advice will help you tho since im very space poor (lol) Im looking for a corp! click here to see what im looking for!https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=279841Follow me on Twitter @loedkanex |
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.24 19:37:00 -
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Knowledge first, ISK later.
Some missions are a lot more dangerous than others.
Work your way up gradually. If you are doing missions that stress your ability, sooner or later you are going to die regardless of how skilled you are or how good your fit is.
If you are PVP focused, you are better off killing NPC pirates in low sec. Leave missions to the care bears.
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Bastion Arzi
Dat Tax
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Posted - 2013.09.25 16:17:00 -
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Trazalian Mangeiri wrote:e.g. Accept part 2 of the mission, agent says "This has to be done quickly before reinforcements arrive". Bring in a long range ship, go through the gate, and get dropped 8 bloody km from 5 ships with webifiers on them, along with their 15 friends, several of whom are in much bigger ships. Webbed for 85-90% velocity, can't move, can't shoot back, screwed, dead.
I'd suggest armor tanking with a stable cap and training up your drones skills. Then simply activate your repper release ur drones and set them on the frigs that are webbing you.
I say armor tank becuase it frees up mid slots that u can fill with cap rechargers to help you attain a stable capacitor while ur armor repper is running.
set ur drones to passive and manually choose which enemies they attack.
once those frigs are dead use ur ab or mwd to get distance on the rest of the rats (U will probably want an ab to be cap stable)
Then use ur long range guns to blap enemies out of thier effective damage range.
rinse and repeat.
could you name the mission you were on where this happened to you?
The only mission i can think of off the top of my head where u are instantly webbed is the blockade. In which case is a stasis tower doing the webbing. If its that mission take out that damned tower first.
If ur having trouble on missions there is a channel called helpmymission you can go there and ask for help. |
Aiyana Bayushi
Miners in Pink
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Posted - 2013.09.25 23:52:00 -
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While its been mention briefly it bares repeat "Know your enemy"
If you are running missions from the same corp/agent you should normally be facing the same rats. Most corps have several enemies they want you to kill but in my experience each agent tends to send you after the same 2-3 and normally tells you either in the initial briefing or the mission details. Also one of the biggest complaints about missions particularly early missions is the repetition so you should learn you targets pretty quick.
So once you know WHO your out to kill look up not only what they are weak to but what they use and plan accordingly. Also since money is the issue do not change agents as soon as a new ones available keep running the same admittedly boring missions for awhile so you can raise money and keep a salvage ship nearby , I prefer a DD but and ship will do , the isk off of that can be a godsend to a new player.
And keep running the same corp as long as possible there are long range benefits (Like jump clones) but on top of that the more a agent likes you the better missions and the special ones you can get many of which are far easier then the normal missions with greater rewards are often worth it. Its often worth it t keep running a low level agent til your faction with their corp is high.
And one last bit o advice , as much as you may hate it take the week or so to raise a basic mining/builder alt because while afk mining is generally a bad idea you can mine mostly afk while doing other things. If anything as a mission runner / combat guppie building your own ammo can be a godsend. |
Rache Bartmoss
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
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Posted - 2013.09.26 10:26:00 -
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All your deaths seem to be in lowsec systems and at the hands of gate-campers. Stay in 0.5 or higher untill you have an idea of what you are doing and how to avoid those camps. |
J'Poll
Second Battlegroup Nerfed Alliance Go Away
2364
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Posted - 2013.09.26 10:48:00 -
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Rache Bartmoss wrote:All your deaths seem to be in lowsec systems and at the hands of gate-campers. Stay in 0.5 or higher untill you have an idea of what you are doing and how to avoid those camps.
That's cause NPC losses luckily/sadly *depending on who you ask* don't show on killboards. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
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