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G0hme
Hoover Inc. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:39:00 -
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This thread and the last two like it is the sole provider of cancer to this world, at the end of the day, everyone is gonna do whatever the **** they want, regardless of you being KILL, SSC, VOC, NOHO, REPO, AHARM or Narwhals ver. 2-3-4-5. Nobody gives a **** about words, only action. If Max Leadfoot thinks KILL is being bullies, J173645 is the J-sig of KILLs executor corp. If Max Leadfoot should be punished for forcing a **** article on us all, J165953 would probably be a place to look. Else Harden The **** Up. No one lives in W-space because they give a **** about how OTHER people feel.
Did I mention no one cares? None of you are revenant anyway! (Finally got to use that one!)
Also, I liked your initialy post QT. Also, Hi Herrbert.
/G0hme Shook Eelm's hand at Fanfest 2012 Shook CCP Dolan's hand at Fanfest 2013
Booted someone EVE-Famous from a pub at Fanfest 2013 |
Incindir Mauser
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
250
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:48:00 -
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Came expecting top quality trolling.
Did not leave disappointed. |
Witchway
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
24
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:52:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:QT McWhiskers wrote: But the rest? Seriously. Does anyone have the ability to fight anymore? I mean I understand if you roll into us and you see that big ole scary KILL logo by our names, but you gotta stop and remember. HK is the only entity in our hole. No one else. We will happily bring our 20 duders to your hole for some pew any day of the week. We will even trap our own capitals in your hole to achieve our goals of sating BOBs thirst for blood.
I dont even know anymore. Seems like the only people who are brave enough to fight us nowadays are CVA.
Yeah i know. Remember this pathetic effort in your home system? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCDppFf01kgListen to how bored our fc sounds. It's no wonder we look to null/low sec if this is all people have to offer. Seriously, once your alliance gets bored doing what everyone else has already done and your member are tired of having unchallenging arranged fights at the sun, you might find find your way in eve but a second whiny forum post won't fix your problems.
to be fair, that's not his home system. to my knowledge polarized/exhale and HK have never actually engaged on any real scale. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
329
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:15:00 -
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HerrBert wrote:you still owe me a meeting
At the sun. I know! This weekend? Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour.
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Bronya Boga
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
138
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:16:00 -
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Alright. Everyone got to flex some muscle, throw some **** at each other and show off their ego. Well done wormhole forums, lets move on to the next thread. Host of podcast Down The Pipe www.downthepipe-wh.com Podcast Public Channel is DTP Podcast @drverikan on twitter [email protected] |
Cybus Max
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
16
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:41:00 -
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Yup I refer to what I said in a previous post, we bitched and whined to get these forums.... Good to see there being put to good use.
I look forward to the next TMC article written by a HK guy desperately trying to massage his ego while trying to show everyone how good his members are at pressing f1.... |
Witchway
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
24
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Posted - 2013.09.24 20:35:00 -
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Cybus Max wrote:Yup I refer to what I said in a previous post, we bitched and whined to get these forums.... Good to see there being put to good use.
I look forward to the next TMC article written by a HK guy desperately trying to massage his ego while trying to show everyone how good his members are at pressing f1....
oh look, a bitter ex-BITEME guy.... shocking.
take a long tumble down the path of irrelevancy did we? |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.09.24 20:53:00 -
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Cybus Max wrote:Yup I refer to what I said in a previous post, we bitched and whined to get these forums.... Good to see there being put to good use.
I look forward to the next TMC article written by a HK guy desperately trying to massage his ego while trying to show everyone how good his members are at pressing f1....
I like how everyone just keeps flopping back and forth on who they're hating in this thread. (or can't use the right name)
Can we just decide if you guys hate HK, KILL (improperly referenced as KIWF all over this *****...if you hate us, at least get the ticker right, c'mon) or is it just the fact that our Bromance is too true and pure that gets all your panties in a twist?
Also, Cybus, When are you going to leave legion bait in my hole again? I have a Proteus fleet to welp.
Witchway wrote:oh look, a bitter ex-BITEME guy.... shocking. take a long tumble down the path of irrelevancy did we?
You forget he's in the alliance that had* a 10b ISK Nyx :P Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour.
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Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
2324
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Posted - 2013.09.24 22:12:00 -
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Bronya Boga wrote:Alright. Everyone got to flex some muscle, throw some **** at each other and show off their ego. Well done wormhole forums, lets move on to the next thread. yeah, there's a reason I dont read WH forum threads that are longer than 2 pages. theyre literally all like this :( Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
219
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Posted - 2013.09.24 23:10:00 -
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Op success. |
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Senn Denroth
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
100
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Posted - 2013.09.25 06:12:00 -
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Well I was having a pretty average day at work until I read this thread.
The crying in here from people that are in the usual all talk no show corp/alliances did not disappoint.
Bookmarking this thread so I can come back to it and cheer myself up in future |
G0hme
Hoover Inc. Black Legion.
133
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Posted - 2013.09.25 07:04:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Bronya Boga wrote:Alright. Everyone got to flex some muscle, throw some **** at each other and show off their ego. Well done wormhole forums, lets move on to the next thread. yeah, there's a reason I dont read WH forum threads that are longer than 2 pages. theyre literally all like this :(
True, you are totally not the forum warrior of Wspace. Shook Eelm's hand at Fanfest 2012 Shook CCP Dolan's hand at Fanfest 2013
Booted someone EVE-Famous from a pub at Fanfest 2013 |
Xtrah
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
48
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Posted - 2013.09.25 08:32:00 -
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tl;dr - off topic rant
@DrunkBert - We've always been around, just under different names. I'm pretty sure NorCorp was mentioned a few times during Clarion Call 3.
Else, people keep saying they have been visiting us (NoHo) but we never fight, and that we have some sort of a blue list.
As every other corp and alliance we have our stronger time of the day, which in our case is Scandinavian/German (EU) evenings. In the latest month or so, I alone can remember us going balls deep in 3 different entities' home wormholes, where we all faced capitals (REPO, VoC and FD). In addition, we've occasionally met other groups on somewhat equal terms, had gfs with groups like Disavowed and SSC - but the only groups ever to jump into our home to fight us (when they know we can fight back) has been SSC and Polarized. - multiple times each.
HK joining KILL? Only lesses your number of targets. I still don't get the whole deal with being in an alliance if you don't live in the same place.
KILL fielding 100 man fleets as a single wormhole alliance, even living across several wormholes, is pathetic - and I get why you are getting blue balled by other groups. Split across 2 wormholes? Make that 50 actives in both then? There's no guarantee that the 15 you're showing is your whole fleet, and that another 35 won't show up to blob you once the other side commits to a fight.
This NoHo blue list mentioned earlier is unknown to me, though as most others we have friends that we like to do joint ops with. This doesn't mean we won't shoot them the next day.
Else I think Asay summed it up pretty well;
Asayanami Dei wrote:So how come every thread in this subforum turns into "KILL is so awesome, why doesn't anybody fight us? WE RULE and everyone else is WRONG" It's like Goons in W-Space now.
Nice original post/ and all, it's a shame the serious bit wore off after the first 1-2 pages. (not that my post is more on topic than any others, heh) No Holes Barred - www.no-ho.com www.youtube.com/NoHolesBarredEVE |
QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.09.25 10:02:00 -
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Honestly I didnt care about the trolling after I heard from the smaller groups. As for my ranting about groups not fighting us. Well its been like that since before we joined kill.
I can name 3 occasions where we ran into, then, powerful WH groups and were outnumbered but they wouldn't fight.
The first one, we ran into Existential Anxiety about a month after the Whole TL debacle. At this point in time we actually had more people in HK than we do now. Thanks to some house cleaning. (Good bye useless noobs) We had a group of about 20 dudes in null sec in assault frigates. EA saw this fleet, saw our numbers and scouted our hole. They then took the time to let us know, indirectly, that we were being watched. We found their hole and saw about 15ish dudes in assault frigs and a few t1 cruisers and dessies. It was like 22 v 15 with EA having destroyers and cruisers to help balance out the load.
We warped into their fleet, letting them know in local before hand, and engaged them on the hole. After a few seconds of pew, EA pulled back and opened comms saying to stick around they had more dudes logging in. We waited 5 minutes. Three assault frigs popped through WH. We point... then about 20 tech 3s and an archon pops through the hole.
Another instance was when TL still had their numbers after their invasion. They rolled into us, scared off some gas miners, and propmtly set up shop on the hole obviously spooling for a fight. We warp in about 30 tech 3s on top of their 25 ish tech 3s. We have logi support, they dont. We land on grid and promptly decloak their archon. Upon seeing the capital we instantly had people logging in alts to jump in their dreads. But they never even had the chance because TL pulled everything back and pulled the archon through critting the hole. After 20 minutes of griping back and forth, I personally just say F it and rolled the hole with a hic. Was tired of dealing with them.
And the third such engagement happened to be against NOHO. I can not blame NOHO for not coming to fight us. This one is more of a fleet composition issue. We brought about 30 dudes. They brought about 30 dudes. (Remember Xtrah, we had MORE people in HK then than we do now...) You guys also brought similar numbers. Granted you were shorthanded by about 5 dudes, but you more than made up for that with your 13 logistics ships.
This is not an exaggeration. You had 9 guardians and 4 oneiros in that engagement. Your DPS was so low you werent able to break our 3 guardians when you had 1 of them jammed out with an armor ecm tengu. 13 logis... Why would anyone bring 13 logis to anything other than a 150 man fleet.
But anywho there was one more thing I would like to address. You look at repo OP and you see 100 dudes from kill. THis was an OP... People planned for this. Took off time from work for this. Arranged for their kids to spend the night with friends/family for this. So yes we do have higher participation during an OP. During our invasion we had more people online and in game than I have ever seen. And that was when we had 190-200 people in corp. Before we started purging inactives. On an average day if someone were to say. "NOHO just rolled into us and they are spooling for a fight." You might see a 20-30 man fleet. Something I know for a fact NOHO is capable of fielding.
But whatever Ive accepted the fact that I am only getting my kills in null sec. Heres to hoping for my next provi exit. Cheers. |
Bronya Boga
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
140
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Posted - 2013.09.25 11:06:00 -
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[quote=Ayeson]
Can we just decide if you guys hate HK, KILL (improperly referenced as KIWF all over this *****...if you hate us, at least get the ticker right, c'mon) or is it just the fact that our Bromance is too true and pure that gets all your panties in a twist?
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is there a third "dont care" option? this thread got derailed because of this specific thing when Mr. Fremen made that big response to everyone trying to defend KIWF.
Meh. I like people not corps or alliances. Host of podcast Down The Pipe www.downthepipe-wh.com Podcast Public Channel is DTP Podcast @drverikan on twitter [email protected] |
Xtrah
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
48
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Posted - 2013.09.25 11:23:00 -
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Thanks for the serious answer. I suppose I'm not the only one who misses the days when 15 people in fleet was a lot No Holes Barred - www.no-ho.com www.youtube.com/NoHolesBarredEVE |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
259
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Posted - 2013.09.25 11:35:00 -
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Just read QT's last post and I actually see a lot of truth in that one. People, especially TL, have been extremely restrictive to the fights they fought., thank god no one told them about sentry-assist mechanics, they'd have owned all of w-space <.< I'm unsure about other parties' percetption on this, but I have yet to see an actual 25+-people KILL roam, didn't till now.
Invasions are a totally different thing, as they aren't for the gf. Out of interest, how many toons did you run in average to get 100people in a fleet? .p
Xtrah wrote:Thanks for the serious answer. I suppose I'm not the only one who misses the days when 15 people in fleet was a lot
15 unique people in fleet is something I have yet to experience oO https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3633385&#post3633385 - 15% more tank since the 1.1-patch. |
Sandslinger
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
107
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Posted - 2013.09.25 11:41:00 -
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QT McWhiskers wrote:
And the third such engagement happened to be against NOHO. I can not blame NOHO for not coming to fight us. This one is more of a fleet composition issue. We brought about 30 dudes. They brought about 30 dudes. (Remember Xtrah, we had MORE people in HK then than we do now...) You guys also brought similar numbers. Granted you were shorthanded by about 5 dudes, but you more than made up for that with your 13 logistics ships.
This is not an exaggeration. You had 9 guardians and 4 oneiros in that engagement. Your DPS was so low you werent able to break our 3 guardians when you had 1 of them jammed out with an armor ecm tengu. 13 logis... Why would anyone bring 13 logis to anything other than a 150 man fleet.
Damn you Xtrah I never felt like having this stupid discussion here, but now I have to answer this.
I remember that exact engagement. you(HK) brought the fleet to us, we took the fight unprepared and in the beginning pretty outnumbered and with a rag tag fleet comp.
FC realised we didnGÇÖt have proper logi coverage and shouts BRING LOGI. Next thing we have 13 logistic ships. What can I say we have a lot of people willing to step up and bring logi when needed. As you pointed out it didnGÇÖt serve us well we didnGÇÖt have a lot of dps and couldnGÇÖt beat your fleet.
However that fight ended by you guys jumping back through the hole which you came, when we had a second to take a breath we looked at the fleet comp we had got together and saw that it was very skewed, we then asked for a swap out of surplus logi while our scout jumped after your fleet on the now close to but not quite critical hole.
We decided that we would give 5 minutes for the surplus logi to swap out and then we would balls deep in the system that connected our present position and your homesystem. fully knowing you would be able to escalate with capitals to make up for your lacking logistics or increase dps thirtyfold. And we wouldnGÇÖt be able to go back.
I told scout to jump through and tell you to hold on. you had already left.
I told your guys as much afterwards so why this gets brought up again and again beats me.
In general the examples given in this thread off people blue balling leaves me a little blank.
People have different time zones.
Sometime there is no one capable\willing to lead available.
your activity vary, but your enemy will ALWAYS assume u have the largest fleet you have shown in the past at any point.
In my humble opinion everyone needs to take a chill pill, and follow these simple rules.
-let the smaller guys get a chance to grow.
-DonGÇÖt hold grudges for how a fight months ago went or didnGÇÖt go
-If someone contact you to get a fight then be upright about it donGÇÖt jerk people about. If someone says sorry we canGÇÖt then take a no as a no (if someone says no 10 times for no reason there might be cause for name calling like carebear of whatever)
-DonGÇÖt bother smacking,it often takes away the receivers willingness to ever give u a fair fight, or a fight at all. IGÇÖve never seen someone say GÇ£hey these guys are smacking us we need to derp into themGÇ¥ |
Sandslinger
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
108
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Posted - 2013.09.25 14:31:00 -
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Xtrah wrote:Thanks for the serious answer. I suppose I'm not the only one who misses the days when 15 people in fleet was a lot
This won't happen as long as there are capitals in wh space.
The proliferation of fleet sizes is closely connected to the proliferation of capitals and entities willingness to use them en masse.
The previous comment on here that there is no counter to T3 + logi gang is just bizarre there are countless counters to logi. neuting/ewar etc etc etc. We have beat many a T3 gang with a smaller T3 gang ourselves simply by utilizing all or a combo of these.
Capitals however are a completely different kettle of fish.
In a pulsar a chimera can outtank 35 high dps T3 and even more Hacs A Moros can outdps 15 T3 in a regular system 30 in a c6 magnetar.
Simply speaking a 15 man fleet will never be able to do jackshit to a capital supported 10 man fleet unless the ones with the capitals do some serious derping.
I remember when i noticed the first dread blap come into use in Wh my first thought was "oh **** we need much larger fleets now". Everyone else obviously realised the same because suddenly every fleet grew.
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Hidden Fremen
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
151
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Posted - 2013.09.25 14:31:00 -
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Ok, I'm back. So, this thread, against QT's honorable will, has turned into blobbers, some notoriously so, calling other people blobbers. Staaaaap, just staaaaaaaaaaap. We don't blob, but we certainly can and have. You blob, but not always. Perceptions are the real enemy here.
Here's something to embrace, though. It was once known that people in wspace were unique in that you could be fighting each other one minute, fighting along side one another the next. No bad blood, no grudges, no complaints, no forum rants, just here for pew.
We're just creating conten for our members and, inadvertently, for otherst. We don't care how it's perceived. We didn't care when it was just Lead Farmers. I almost cared about how we were seen, which was what my page long post attempted to alter, but it was seemingly glazed over.
I admire VoC for not bothering with this pseudo-political bullshit. Instead, like clairvoyants, turned their attention elsewhere where the targets are naive and not full of misconceptions.
If you don't want wspace to go to ****, don't **** it up. Except local. Always **** up local.
Lastly, where are those achievements? |
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Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
428
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Posted - 2013.09.25 14:38:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:
I admire VoC for not bothering with this pseudo-political bullshit. Instead, like clairvoyants, turned their attention elsewhere where the targets are naive and not full of misconceptions.
Sadly, the angry blobbers are trying to invade us. They really suck at seeding capitals covertly.
Why can't people just let us be to roam null, and gank highsec pubbies with 20 man ISBoxed nado fleets and the like. |
Hidden Fremen
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
151
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Posted - 2013.09.25 14:41:00 -
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Messoroz wrote:Hidden Fremen wrote:
I admire VoC for not bothering with this pseudo-political bullshit. Instead, like clairvoyants, turned their attention elsewhere where the targets are naive and not full of misconceptions.
Sadly, the angry blobbers are trying to invade us. They really suck at seeding capitals covertly. Why can't people just let us be to roam null, and gank highsec pubbies with 20 man ISBoxed nado fleets and the like.
Don't worry, bro. |
QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
221
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Posted - 2013.09.25 16:21:00 -
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Sandslinger wrote:QT McWhiskers wrote:
And the third such engagement happened to be against NOHO. I can not blame NOHO for not coming to fight us. This one is more of a fleet composition issue. We brought about 30 dudes. They brought about 30 dudes. (Remember Xtrah, we had MORE people in HK then than we do now...) You guys also brought similar numbers. Granted you were shorthanded by about 5 dudes, but you more than made up for that with your 13 logistics ships.
This is not an exaggeration. You had 9 guardians and 4 oneiros in that engagement. Your DPS was so low you werent able to break our 3 guardians when you had 1 of them jammed out with an armor ecm tengu. 13 logis... Why would anyone bring 13 logis to anything other than a 150 man fleet.
Damn you Xtrah I never felt like having this stupid discussion here, but now I have to answer this. I remember that exact engagement. you(HK) brought the fleet to us, we took the fight unprepared and in the beginning pretty outnumbered and with a rag tag fleet comp. FC realised we didnGÇÖt have proper logi coverage and shouts BRING LOGI. Next thing we have 13 logistic ships. What can I say we have a lot of people willing to step up and bring logi when needed. As you pointed out it didnGÇÖt serve us well we didnGÇÖt have a lot of dps and couldnGÇÖt beat your fleet. However that fight ended by you guys jumping back through the hole which you came, when we had a second to take a breath we looked at the fleet comp we had got together and saw that it was very skewed, we then asked for a swap out of surplus logi while our scout jumped after your fleet on the now close to but not quite critical hole. We decided that we would give 5 minutes for the surplus logi to swap out and then we would balls deep in the system that connected our present position and your homesystem. fully knowing you would be able to escalate with capitals to make up for your lacking logistics or increase dps thirtyfold. And we wouldnGÇÖt be able to go back. I told scout to jump through and tell you to hold on. you had already left. I told your guys as much afterwards so why this gets brought up again and again beats me. In general the examples given in this thread off people blue balling leaves me a little blank. People have different time zones. Sometime there is no one capable\willing to lead available. your activity vary, but your enemy will ALWAYS assume u have the largest fleet you have shown in the past at any point. In my humble opinion everyone needs to take a chill pill, and follow these simple rules. -let the smaller guys get a chance to grow. -DonGÇÖt hold grudges for how a fight months ago went or didnGÇÖt go -If someone contact you to get a fight then be upright about it donGÇÖt jerk people about. If someone says sorry we canGÇÖt then take a no as a no (if someone says no 10 times for no reason there might be cause for name calling like carebear of whatever) -DonGÇÖt bother smacking,it often takes away the receivers willingness to ever give u a fair fight, or a fight at all. IGÇÖve never seen someone say GÇ£hey these guys are smacking us we need to derp into themGÇ¥
See now that makes more sense. I guess the difference between NOHO and HK and is that HK pilots dont want to miss out on killmails and are particularly loath to flying logi. Where as your guys dont care and will just jump in one to help the fleet out...
As for us leaving at the end. We are more than willing to derp ourselves into an enemy fleet and hope for the best. But if we see the fight going south, and we have a way out we are going to take it. Every single entity that is reading these words right now will agree with this.
We left because more jams or neuts came in, dont really remember, and shut down our logi. We were slowly dying and our primary FC just called for us to go back. Once we saw the hole crit we started playing the math game and realized the only way we were gonna bring the same fleet back was if we shipped down into Assault frigs. Since we were unable to get in touch with your FC in a timely manner we just decided to go home.
After the fight had ended and the hole was rolled contact was made, but by then it was just too late. (not really saying that was either party's fault)
While that was a very special case, I must say that we are at least respectful of NOHO for bringing fights against an entity that, at the time, had the ability to bring 10 more peeps than you.
I guess the end result of this gripe fest can be said that WH space should bring more fights if capable. I understand your unwillingness to bring heavy armor against HK or the rest of KILL whenever you see that you can only bring 12 guys, but if you contact us and be all like "Hey we got 10 dudes here at this time" we will bring 10 dudes there in the ships you want and pew it up for bob. Guaranteed every time.
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Quinn Corvez
Probe Patrol Polarized.
78
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Posted - 2013.09.25 17:41:00 -
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@ Hidden Fremen, as you said your self, achievements are subjective so I'm not going to sit here and make a list for you if that's what you are waiting for.
... Instead I'll say this. I'm proud of being what was once one of the biggest forces in wormhole space and a very sucessful mercenary alliance. We took part in some amazing battles and learned a lot while doing it.
Arguabley we where at the top of the wormhole game. even if we used blues or blobs to get there, that's just a testement to our leaders organisational/deplomatic skills. But times change and when you are at the top you can only go down or move sideways and I thing the latter is where we are at now.
This whole blobbing debate is pretty stupid. It's clear to anyone with half a brain why a small groups won't enguage the big guys and from the blobbers perspective it's silly to expect them to tell half their members to sit this one out so a fair fight can be had.
We get blobbed and fight out numbered all the time but we don't create a thread about it, we learn from it.
I'm sure a troll response is imenent but I'm not interested. |
Incindir Mauser
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
251
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Posted - 2013.09.25 18:29:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:Lastly, where are those achievements?
*Tearpocalypse*
10000/10000 Buckets of Forum Tears collected.
There you go.
As an aside. I don't see what the big deal is. Everyone goes off the best intel they have available at the time. Not a single person from a single corp in this whole thread acts like lemmings and Leeroy's billions into a fight without feeling confident that they can get at least one kill from the opfor.
Yes, some of us are sick of seeing the same tired AHAC T3 gangs with Guardian support. It gets old flying the same thing all the time.
Of course, there are those days where you have those "Can we take what they have? Fuckit... let's find out..." moments. And you whelp the fleet for Bob and die for Kefka.
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StarFleetCommander
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
195
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:02:00 -
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Xtrah wrote:tl;dr - off topic rant @DrunkBert - We've always been around, just under different names. I'm pretty sure NorCorp was mentioned a few times during Clarion Call 3. Else, people keep saying they have been visiting us (NoHo) but we never fight, and that we have some sort of a blue list. As every other corp and alliance we have our stronger time of the day, which in our case is Scandinavian/German (EU) evenings. In the latest month or so, I alone can remember us going balls deep in 3 different entities' home wormholes, where we all faced capitals (REPO, VoC and FD). In addition, we've occasionally met other groups on somewhat equal terms, had gfs with groups like Disavowed and SSC - but the only groups ever to jump into our home to fight us (when they know we can fight back) has been SSC and Polarized. - multiple times each. HK joining KILL? Only lesses your number of targets. I still don't get the whole deal with being in an alliance if you don't live in the same place. KILL fielding 100 man fleets as a single wormhole alliance, even living across several wormholes, is pathetic - and I get why you are getting blue balled by other groups. Split across 2 wormholes? Make that 50 actives in both then? There's no guarantee that the 15 you're showing is your whole fleet, and that another 35 won't show up to blob you once the other side commits to a fight. This NoHo blue list mentioned earlier is unknown to me, though as most others we have friends that we like to do joint ops with. This doesn't mean we won't shoot them the next day. Else I think Asay summed it up pretty well; Asayanami Dei wrote:So how come every thread in this subforum turns into "KILL is so awesome, why doesn't anybody fight us? WE RULE and everyone else is WRONG" It's like Goons in W-Space now. Nice original post/ and all, it's a shame the serious bit wore off after the first 1-2 pages. (not that my post is more on topic than any others, heh)
http://kb.vergeofcollapse.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=47025&adjacent=1
Wormhole collapsed and some of our got stuck :( sound familiar? |
Hidden Fremen
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:42:00 -
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Incindir Mauser wrote:Hidden Fremen wrote:Lastly, where are those achievements? *Tearpocalypse* 10000/10000 Buckets of Forum Tears collected. There you go.
Lol, expert... |
Keizer Kip
Probe Patrol Polarized.
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:44:00 -
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Still we had good fun during the fight before and I am still flabbergasted as why you guys jumped out of the fight crashing the wh on our own fleet.
Nice bait trap with the carrier, it smelled like a trap but what can you do other than spring it....and hope for the best.
Too bad it ended like it ended, hope to neut you soon again :)
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Cosmic Scanner
Temnava Legion No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:46:00 -
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Can't we just hug and all be friends!
"HELL NO! Must hold grudges against everyone who blobbed me, everyone who didn't give a fair fight, everyone who didn't fight that time and make sure my alliances reputation stands tall!" Right?
Looks like Politics is invading W-Space again!
You get what you give - give good fights if you want to, it gets remembered either way. If you blob, expect to be blobbed or have no fight at all next time. If someone says no to a fight, either respect it or invade until you get a fight (lol).
SSC closed a hole in front of my eyes and refused a fight to us the other day, was i disappointed not to get a fight - ofc, do i hold it against them? hell no, it happens - we'll meet again soon and have an epic fight i can feel it!
Pretty much respect any wh corp who pvp's even those sneaky bastards of bite me inc.!
WH Bros4Life hearts and kisses all round, oh one more thing:
Did i mention NOHO has like 20 blues and is part of the most powerful wh coalition in eve, rivaled by none?
*Popcorn* Cosmic Scanner / muu lufragga |
Witchway
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.09.25 23:06:00 -
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Xtrah wrote:KILL fielding 100 man fleets as a single wormhole alliance, even living across several wormholes, is pathetic - and I get why you are getting blue balled by other groups. Split across 2 wormholes? Make that 50 actives in both then? There's no guarantee that the 15 you're showing is your whole fleet, and that another 35 won't show up to blob you once the other side commits to a fight.
first of all, I don't think you understand what pathetic means.
second of all, we were split across four wormholes, as there were four corps and now there are 3 corps and 3 wormholes. so in actuality we had maybe a 40/30/20/10 split based on corp members alone for that weekend and you can work the math out for what we can field now on your own.
this is why no one respects you anymore, even besides the fact that NOHO has a pretty well known reputation of late of bringing logi fleets with dps support, your general risk adversity is not appealing.
you know the ironic part of your entire statement is that HK in it's fledgling months used to think very similar to that passage in bold about most other alliances including NOHO, KILL, SSC and now we are seeing the exact opposite; full fledged alliances too chicken **** to engage one corp. |
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