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Hidden Fremen
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.09.25 23:24:00 -
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Edit: Lost reception...
To say it's pathetic we're in an alliance, spread across several wormholes, is pathetic. It just confounds me why you would care so much to look down on it so intensely. It's very symptomatic of envy. *Cue grossly maniacal spergz of laughs and denials*
Where are the tears about Surely? They're much bigger, spread thinner, claim to have won wspace, pride themselves on being the new and more efficient Narwhals, and so on..
And as for your blue list. It was a misconception, much like our niche in blobbing, considering you're all now a part of an obscure blue web helping Chitsa realize some wspace vs nullsec dreams, which, I'm sure, there's some explanation to. It's funny how you're cool with blobbing there, bragging about 100 man fleets. Thanks for the invites, though.
I don't think there'll ever be an end to this so, srsly gais.. Done with this thread. |
HerrBert
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
97
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Posted - 2013.09.26 09:33:00 -
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Drops the mic and walks away My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
Super serious Wormhole Guy http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism |
Grozen
Titan Core
13
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:50:00 -
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Rubicon expansion might just be stealth buff to whs, since ccp anounced that hi-sec pocos can now be owned by players like the other pocos,goons just posted they are going after all hi sec pocos so the only free pocos people will be able to find will be in wormholes.This could certainly increase the wh traffic and maybe even bring 0.0 alliances into whs(best case scenario). knowledge is power. |
Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
234
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:36:00 -
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Grozen wrote:Rubicon expansion might just be stealth buff to whs, since ccp anounced that hi-sec pocos can now be owned by players like the other pocos,goons just posted they are going after all hi sec pocos so the only free pocos people will be able to find will be in wormholes.This could certainly increase the wh traffic and maybe even bring 0.0 alliances into whs(best case scenario). The more the merrier. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
462
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:18:00 -
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Grozen wrote:Rubicon expansion might just be stealth buff to whs, since ccp anounced that hi-sec pocos can now be owned by players like the other pocos,goons just posted they are going after all hi sec pocos so the only free pocos people will be able to find will be in wormholes.This could certainly increase the wh traffic and maybe even bring 0.0 alliances into whs(best case scenario).
Yes, and I proclaim myself as King of w-space. But it does not work that way does it? I mean you just have to do simple math, for example there are 1829 Temperate Planets in Empire Space. Let say that half of those are in low sec systems, that means 914 Temperate Planets in High Sec. Even if goons are knocking down a Customs Office each hour in HS that means it will take them 38 days to knock down all Offices on just the Temperate Planets. And this is just straight up bashing, I am not even mentioning the fact that POCOs will have a 24 hour timer, that they would need to spend ISK and war dec various targets (this will also require coordination and administration), that there might be groups who will hit their POCOs in return or the fact that many of their pilots dont have sec status to tarry in high sec.
That is just way too much bother for a very negligible return. And if they go after Desert Planets, lol, there are 4825 of them in Empire Space. Good luck, have fun. |
Witchway
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
25
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:44:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Grozen wrote:Rubicon expansion might just be stealth buff to whs, since ccp anounced that hi-sec pocos can now be owned by players like the other pocos,goons just posted they are going after all hi sec pocos so the only free pocos people will be able to find will be in wormholes.This could certainly increase the wh traffic and maybe even bring 0.0 alliances into whs(best case scenario). [MATH]
what this guy said. |
Kalel Nimrott
Sky Fighters
374
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:36:00 -
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"Welcome to Eve Online, here's a rubik(on) cube. Go **** yourself" |
Bronya Boga
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
141
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:52:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Grozen wrote:Rubicon expansion might just be stealth buff to whs, since ccp anounced that hi-sec pocos can now be owned by players like the other pocos,goons just posted they are going after all hi sec pocos so the only free pocos people will be able to find will be in wormholes.This could certainly increase the wh traffic and maybe even bring 0.0 alliances into whs(best case scenario). Yes, and I proclaim myself as King of w-space. But it does not work that way does it? I mean you just have to do simple math, for example there are 1829 Temperate Planets in Empire Space. Let say that half of those are in low sec systems, that means 914 Temperate Planets in High Sec. Even if goons are knocking down a Customs Office each hour in HS that means it will take them 38 days to knock down all Offices on just the Temperate Planets. And this is just straight up bashing, I am not even mentioning the fact that POCOs will have a 24 hour timer, that they would need to spend ISK and war dec various targets (this will also require coordination and administration), that there might be groups who will hit their POCOs in return or the fact that many of their pilots dont have sec status to tarry in high sec. That is just way too much bother for a very negligible return. And if they go after Desert Planets, lol, there are 4825 of them in Empire Space. Good luck, have fun.
Very true. But its not like they are strangers to grinding structure hitpoint amarite?
seriously though I don't imagine they will go through with it as Gnaw pointed out it doesn't seem cost effective. And goons are anything but stupid. Host of podcast Down The Pipe www.downthepipe-wh.com Podcast Public Channel is DTP Podcast @drverikan on twitter [email protected] |
Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
449
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Posted - 2013.09.28 05:30:00 -
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Lots of tom foolery going on in this thread Free Agent |
ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
95
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:13:00 -
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I am not sure i can be classified as a John Q Wormholer but I will share my 2 cents regardless.
A central problem of WH space's issues is the nature of our PVP. armor t3 + guardian has basically forced it to come down to numbers. I am not saying there aren't exceptions, but the only real way to fight a armor t3 blob is a blob of similair, if not larger size. Tactics and fleet compositions went out the window, so now the only thing left is numbers. On paper deciding to downship and roam in a less shiny fleet works, but as soon as you run into someone using a armor t3 blob and you get raped it isnt fun anymore. When you stop caring about KB efficiency, and lossmails, and more about the good fight theyare more likely to happen.
Empathy towards other corps/alliances will go miles as well. The black and white " fight or get evicted" wont work, its not that simple. NOHO has rolled into us several times over the past couple weeks and I don't think weve fought them at all. Not because we dont want to, but because our TZs are offset enough that when they have a good fleet amped up and ready to go, i have a couple stragglers, and vice versa. Now I hope they havent classified us as carebears, but as many fo you have probably experienced it is like pulling teeth to gather a fleet to knowingly charge into a blob 3X your size, and no one is interested in suiciding a fleet so we can say " we fought you".
Q;Are the large entities who are still left dirty blobbers? Sometimes, blobbing is a natural development of eve IMO, corps grow. thats the way it works. Like mentioned previously im never going to tell my members they cant come to this fight, otherwise well be blobbing. In many cases I make an effort to even the odds, i downship my fleets, allow them an advantage, I make an effort to make it a "good fight". When you mindlessly just toss 30 t3s and 5 guys, thats dirty blobbing.
I am skipping most of the other ?s regarding joing or moving upwards as I dont think they apply to me.
Q. Final question is in all honesty, when you roll into a major group that you arent blue to. And you have sufficient numbers on, what are your honest thoughts? Do you turn tail and run, do you hope that they didnt see you, or do you get scouts out there and start doing the numbers game trying to see if you can bring a fight? My reaction when I roll into a major group ( we have no blues out in wh space) depends on who is around, and what time of day it is. If i have guys, and can reasonably expect to get some men together I am happy, and look forward to a fight. When its early morning/very late at night and its only me and a couple other insomniacs we usually just close it, not looking to waste either our, or their time. The Wormhole Kid |
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QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:42:00 -
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ExookiZ wrote:I am not sure i can be classified as a John Q Wormholer but I will share my 2 cents regardless.
A central problem of WH space's issues is the nature of our PVP. armor t3 + guardian has basically forced it to come down to numbers. I am not saying there aren't exceptions, but the only real way to fight a armor t3 blob is a blob of similair, if not larger size. Tactics and fleet compositions went out the window, so now the only thing left is numbers. On paper deciding to downship and roam in a less shiny fleet works, but as soon as you run into someone using a armor t3 blob and you get raped it isnt fun anymore. When you stop caring about KB efficiency, and lossmails, and more about the good fight theyare more likely to happen.
Empathy towards other corps/alliances will go miles as well. The black and white " fight or get evicted" wont work, its not that simple. NOHO has rolled into us several times over the past couple weeks and I don't think weve fought them at all. Not because we dont want to, but because our TZs are offset enough that when they have a good fleet amped up and ready to go, i have a couple stragglers, and vice versa. Now I hope they havent classified us as carebears, but as many fo you have probably experienced it is like pulling teeth to gather a fleet to knowingly charge into a blob 3X your size, and no one is interested in suiciding a fleet so we can say " we fought you".
Q;Are the large entities who are still left dirty blobbers? Sometimes, blobbing is a natural development of eve IMO, corps grow. thats the way it works. Like mentioned previously im never going to tell my members they cant come to this fight, otherwise well be blobbing. In many cases I make an effort to even the odds, i downship my fleets, allow them an advantage, I make an effort to make it a "good fight". When you mindlessly just toss 30 t3s and 5 guys, thats dirty blobbing.
I am skipping most of the other ?s regarding joing or moving upwards as I dont think they apply to me.
Q. Final question is in all honesty, when you roll into a major group that you arent blue to. And you have sufficient numbers on, what are your honest thoughts? Do you turn tail and run, do you hope that they didnt see you, or do you get scouts out there and start doing the numbers game trying to see if you can bring a fight? My reaction when I roll into a major group ( we have no blues out in wh space) depends on who is around, and what time of day it is. If i have guys, and can reasonably expect to get some men together I am happy, and look forward to a fight. When its early morning/very late at night and its only me and a couple other insomniacs we usually just close it, not looking to waste either our, or their time.
You know I cant really say anything cause we almost never see you. But there have been a few times where we have just had to roll our eyes at TDSIN.
We should hang out some time. We can go to a planet, take a long stroll down to a POCO and then end the night in a hot orgy at the sun. |
Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
449
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Posted - 2013.09.29 08:16:00 -
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Sounds like wormhole space got boring after i started my break. Fear not however, as I will be returning shortly to add excitement into your otherwise dull Eve existences. Love you all long time. Free Agent |
ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
95
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Posted - 2013.09.29 14:40:00 -
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yes bane, you leaving ruined Wh space. please come back soon. The Wormhole Kid |
Jess Tanner
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
53
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Posted - 2013.09.30 01:03:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Sounds like wormhole space got boring after i started my break. Fear not however, as I will be returning shortly to add excitement into your otherwise dull Eve existences. Love you all long time.
*Takes note of the interesting timing of someone's "break" from Eve, Go with Bob, keep Him always in your heart. He is your Sword, Shield, and the Knife in your back. |
Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
449
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Posted - 2013.09.30 07:20:00 -
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i didn't find my break very interesting. Work kept me from having fun Free Agent |
Incindir Mauser
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
254
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Posted - 2013.10.03 05:36:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:i didn't find my break very interesting. Work kept me from having fun
Well it's good you're back, and we can go back to trolling Rengas. |
Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
451
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Posted - 2013.10.03 05:55:00 -
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hehe I do miss Rengas' sweet ass. Free Agent |
Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
2339
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Posted - 2013.10.03 06:19:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:Where are the tears about Surely? They're much bigger, spread thinner, claim to have won wspace, pride themselves on being the new and more efficient Narwhals, and so on. probably because they troll forums a lot less. (and cmon, they needed all the help they could get... ;)) Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
HerrBert
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
119
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Posted - 2013.10.03 07:13:00 -
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Yo Surely I m sleeping next to this guy ... his tower is the one on the right... Thanks My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
Super serious Wormhole Guy http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism |
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know Surely You're Joking
11
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Posted - 2013.10.03 08:59:00 -
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Noted :) |
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QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
225
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:32:00 -
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I knew this thread would not get as much feedback as my last one did. Especially since this one didnt follow any major offensive or defensive maneuver by anyone important. I mean there was some attempt that got shut down, put forth by some bad kids who want to be relevant again, but thats about it.
Im happy for what it got. So non troll moment, I know shocking huh, but I have an important question for everyone reading these words.
Does anyone here really care? Is this important to any of you at all? Or are you all simply playing a roll to have fun while playing a game? (Or metagame)
Im serious here. Now I may be saying this cause Im working on my forth bottle of meed, but I want to know. Does anyone here get actually mad when you get your ship blown up? Do you honestly rage?
Does your jummies rustle when you see HK decloak themselves next to your thanny in your c5 pulsar site? Do you curse us wit every fiber of your being as your ship and pod explode under the wait of our stealth bombers and local trolls? Or do you, the person, simply sit back, grab a beer and say "nice job" as you start to make your way around high sec to replace your super shiny ship.
Cause I mean when we were invaded we saw an enemy invading for, what we could tell, was no reason at all. We just thought someone had picked us at random in the whel of destruction. Later come to us find out that we had somehow peeved the leader of w-space. Something about LMFAO lyrics and porrly translated borat quotes in russian... WHOOO. Lemme tell ya. That's what gets my jimmies a rustlin right there.
But I have to know if that was a serious reason? Or did our invaders simply look for some kind of rason to sell to their membership in hopes that they will invade us?
Cause when you get right down to it at the end of the day. Eve is a video game. Ill be it one that reqires a lot more attention than say battlefield, but still a game none the less. Do we really believe in these reasons for invading? Or do we simply blame, or claim worship for, bob as our reason and be done with it?
I just dont see why people seem to think we are dirty dirty bloobers. HK, LFarm, and Ekchu are in different holes. Rolling into any of these entities will provoke a fight. Unless we are all gassing. Then we pretent to knot see you.
Whatever Im drunk and tired. Im goign to bed. |
Quinn Corvez
Probe Patrol Polarized.
85
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:48:00 -
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Just let this stupid thread die already. All you are doing is creating a forum pissing contest and saying how great you think you are... Yeah, yeah you're all terrible drunks. We get it. |
Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR. Ragnarok.
4
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Posted - 2013.10.03 10:35:00 -
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I'm going to post a response based on us being a "smaller" entity
As a smaller alliance trying to break out of c5 low class atatic space into c6 upper class static space we've run into a few of th bigger entities who've been around a while and my observations are this.
We haven't been "blobbed" as of yet they tend to bring around 15-20 man fleets usually supported by 3-4 logi That's just standard fleet sizes I've seen. I also see people talking about wanting a challenge and looking for a challenge. This is total BS. No one wants a challenge, it's not "fun" they want to completely destroy and have forceful coital relations with the people they see. We've been guilty of it too. We have found 5 or 6 guys harassing a c2 corp and formed up a 20 man fleet to go help out. I've seen fleets drop 15 guys on a venture in a c3 it's become about the kill and not the events leading up to the kill
As a group who's trying to bring more people into wormholes and give some new players a bt of education on w-space our killboard is terrible we aren't super ashamed of it we wish it was nicer (something about cake and eating it too)
How ever we love the fight no matter the outcome. Weather we welp a 3 billion isk Deimos fleet to TDSIN or rf someone's pocos to stir someone's loins up. Getting back on topic though. Blobbing is in the natural progression of this game. As long as you recruit and continue to grow eventually you'll be blobbing too. Have more gangs with less people and have them go different directions in your chain split that 40 man gang into 2 20 man gangs have one hit null have the other hit your chain search for a good fight not a good slaughter
Are we happy with being a smaller entity? Yes and no we like the tight close knit attitude our member base has but, we want to be able to go toe to tie with the big boys. I want to be able to figt someone put a "GF" in local and actually MEAN IT not just do it because it's respectful. Our group wants to move to c6 space next year but because if the nature of wormhole space now we have to wait and grow even more so that we don't have to fear eviction if we refuse a suicide fight I think the semantics and **** measuring needs to leave w space and we need to actually have fun. Too many people with the attitude of a child. "No my toy is better" "no mine is" "well my mom can beat up your mom" it's getting out of hand.
Now HK is a different beast all in its own those guys just like to be jerks it's their thing and everyone needs to have a thing. I respect them for it. They might get blobby but it happens they've hit that point in their natural progression. Like I said everyone can get blobby at one time or another. They like the attention. Like the skinny blonde girl in high school who always wore short shorts
Ill have to edit this when I get to my pc my phone is a piece of junk |
QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
226
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:03:00 -
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It has come to my attention that several groups of people have been offended by my words in this thread. This was never my intention. As Ann apology I have decided t to give away my vast stockpile of c320.
So if you feel you have been offended personally or professionally, then shoot me a mail in game. I will direct you to the system where I will personally fill up your freighter with delicious gas.
Sincerely Qt McWhiskers. |
stierkobb
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
4
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Posted - 2013.10.10 14:21:00 -
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QT McWhiskers wrote:It has come to my attention that several groups of people have been offended by my words in this thread. This was never my intention. As Ann apology I have decided t to give away my vast stockpile of c320.
So if you feel you have been offended personally or professionally, then shoot me a mail in game. I will direct you to the system where I will personally fill up your freighter with delicious gas.
Sincerely Qt McWhiskers. I feel deeply offended by everything you say. Just drop a can next to my POS full of C320. Thank you. |
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