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Skola Kahn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:51:00 -
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Last night while ratting I received an escalation to a Sansha 7/10 DED complex. I am an Amarr pilot, with good skills up to the battlecruiser level. I can also fly a Legion. Is this complex one that can be solo'd by anything smaller than a battleship? Is it worth purchasing a Legion just to run this complex? And if so, what DPS and tank numbers should I be aiming for with my fit to comete this DED? Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you. |
Lynkon Lawg
Second Six Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:17:00 -
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I haven't flown a 7/10, but with the difficulties I have had flying Sansha War Supply Complex (6/10) in a 689dps Sleipnir, I would think a 7/10 in a base model BC would be near impossible. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1585
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:39:00 -
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This thread may be of interest. Everything there applies here; Blood and Sansha 7s aren't that different. |
Darling Hassasin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:03:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:This thread may be of interest. Everything there applies here; Blood and Sansha 7s aren't that different.
The thread you linked is from before med gun rebalance and thus the folks in there are worrying about dual tcs and scorch to reach the Web towers with their heavy pulses. This is no longer a concern and I imagine one could scrap the two tcs for a med/small cap booster and a web and sail through the site. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1585
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:25:00 -
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Darling Hassasin wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:This thread may be of interest. Everything there applies here; Blood and Sansha 7s aren't that different. The thread you linked is from before med gun rebalance and thus the folks in there are worrying about dual tcs and scorch to reach the Web towers with their heavy pulses. This is no longer a concern and I imagine one could scrap the two tcs for a med/small cap booster and a web and sail through the site.
Right. For some reason I thought I discussed the beam changes in that thread, but obviously that isn't the case.
However. Scorch range hasn't changed a bit, and if you want pulses everything in there still applies. The alternative now is to use beams with their improved damage (and honestly I'd still recommend at least a pair of TCs; I'm using three on my exploration Legion right now). Of course you could swap out a TC for a web if that suited you, but I really like the extra range and flexibility I get out of the third TC; just don't let frigates get close to you and you're fine. |
Skola Kahn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.24 23:58:00 -
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Thanks for all the replies, there is a lot of great information here and in the linked thread. Would someone be willing to share a beam fit that I can use as a baseline? My pulse fit has 2 Corelum C-Type armor repairers, and I'm having a really hard time fitting them with Heavy Beams. Should I downgrade to Focused Medium Pulse? Or maybe sell these reps and purchase a single Centum C-type? B-type are prohibitively expensive for me at this point. Again, thanks for the help?! |
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
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Posted - 2013.09.25 00:08:00 -
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Can you fly an absolution?
[Absolution, C3]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Core C-Type Armor EM Hardener Core C-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Coreli A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script 10MN Afterburner II
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Small Tractor Beam II Salvager II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Energy Collision Accelerator II
if not, you have to get a Legion if you want beams, or go for a BS. |
Skola Kahn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:07:00 -
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I actually can fly an Absolution reasonably well. I should have looked into that before purchasing the Legion. Oh well, it is an option in the future. The Legion fit I came up with follows:
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Optical Tracking Computer Experimental 10MN Afterburner X5 Prototype Engine Enervator Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster
Heavy Beam Laser II Heavy Beam Laser II Heavy Beam Laser II Heavy Beam Laser II Heavy Beam Laser II Heavy Beam Laser II
Medium Ancillary Current Router Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump
I have to switch out the engineering sub for the Power Core Multiplier for this fit to juuuuust make it.
I went with the dual Corelums to provide the burst tank when I need it. It does 593 (can this be right?) dps with IN Multi to 27 + 11 and 344 out to 87 + 11 with Aurora.
It has 257 DPS tank with a single repper and 515 with both. Loaded with Cap Booster 800 it has 3m51s of cap life with both reppers running.
How does this look? Should I fit a Sebo instead of the tracking computer to take advantage of Auroras range?
Thanks again! |
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:28:00 -
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Skola Kahn wrote:I How does this look? Should I fit a Sebo instead of the tracking computer to take advantage of Auroras range?
Thanks again!
Can you fit something like this?
[Legion, Legion]
Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
Cap Recharger II Experimental 1MN Afterburner I Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
This one will give you 676DPS with multi @30+16, 507DPS with ultrav @52+16, 395DPS with infrared @max targeting range and a 321/470 sansha tank. Its also cap stable without a CB, you might want a small one though in place of the recharger. Apply bling according to your wallet stats. |
Skola Kahn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:26:00 -
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That is a great fit. Thank you, I will definitely try it out. I appreciate the help very much! |
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Darling Hassasin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.25 05:27:00 -
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Bertrand Butler wrote:Skola Kahn wrote:I How does this look? Should I fit a Sebo instead of the tracking computer to take advantage of Auroras range?
Thanks again! Can you fit something like this? [Legion, Legion] Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Cap Recharger II Experimental 1MN Afterburner I Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir This base model will give you 676DPS with multi @30+16, 507DPS with ultrav @52+16, 395DPS with infrared @max targeting range and a 321/470 sansha tank. Its also cap stable without a CB, you might want a small one though in place of the recharger. Apply bling according to your wallet stats.
I like this fit, it was the sort of thing I envisaged, but then I checked the ab and it says 1mn! Is this a typo or did you actually find the extra powergrid by using an 1 mn ab lol.
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Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
90
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Posted - 2013.09.25 10:14:00 -
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hehe...typo. Its supposed to be a meta 10mn. XD |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.09.25 15:08:00 -
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I'm running a pretty close variation of that Legion:
[Legion, bloods beams speriment] Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Energized EM Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Heat Sink
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
ACR doesn't need to be T2 unless you want the option to upgrade the MAR to B- or A-type. Obviously more expensive, but it's paid for itself in less than 10 hours of play. It's primarily a replacement for my Blood 6/10 Tengu but numbers indicate it would do fine in Sansha 6s or 7s. IN MF runs with everything else for 6 minutes 40 seconds for 724 DPS at 32+19 -- or you can obviously start trading scripts for tracking, which can get up to .07rad/sec. IN UV with that script configuration gives 543 at 48+15 with more than enough tracking to blap frigates.
I could definitely see the argument for swapping out the Dissolution Sequencer for Tactical Targeting Network and my try it; I've always appreciated the ability to kite way out but haven't really been using it in practice. |
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