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Verity Sovereign
Sovereign Fleet Tax Shelter
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Posted - 2013.09.24 17:12:00 -
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set bonus: + 66.57% to *primary effect* bonus
Yes, thats right, I want to be able to run a geno set and get +5s to attributes.
The old CA-1 and CA-2 could actually slow player progress, because it provides an incentive to stay at +3s when they could move up to +4s and +5s.
So please, for christmas, a CA-5 that makes the geno set act like +5s |
Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
28
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Posted - 2013.09.24 17:18:00 -
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None of the Attribute + Bonus implants are +5's. Eve is a game of tradeoffs so I doubt this will happen. |
Swiftstrike1
Interfector INC. Fade 2 Black
228
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Posted - 2013.09.24 17:51:00 -
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^^ What she said. Any implant set with a secondary effect has +2 or +3 attribute enhancers.
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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
802
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Posted - 2013.09.24 17:58:00 -
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Well, I do not agree with having the Genolution set give +5 to attributes, most if not all of the attribute + bonus skill implants are only +3's. As already pointed out it is a trade off. Max training or Bonus skills, you can't have both.
That being said I would still like to see a CA-5, just to complete the set. Two of my characters currently have their main clone running with the full current set of 4. I would love to have the set completed to 5 implants, or even 6 adding some thing like the omega implants for slot 6. It would make the gen-set one of the best sets, right up there with slaves.
The 6th implant, say a Genolution omega would simply be a modifier for the rest of the set.
But what should the CA-5 give? +5 or even +4 to to all attributes would be nice, but would not be balanced. Perhaps agility, or speed?
Personally I have always wished there was a implant that could give mass reduction on your ship, it would be sweet for wormhole purposes. Get a few more ships through before the hole collapses, or allow that ship that is slightly to big to fit. Having enough mass reduction to get, say a battleship into a C-1 might be overpowered, but there are some ships that are only slightly over the mass cap, that could be squeezed in with the right fit combined with a 5-10% mass reduction implant (or whatever value would be balanced) . That would make an awesome, and very unique CA-5. |
Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
1546
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:25:00 -
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I think I would like to see the CA-5 grant a 1.5% to armor and shield repair amount with a 10% increase to the secondary effects to the set.
Maybe a CA-6 Omega that gives either a 25% increase or a 50% increase. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement |
Arya Regnar
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
205
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Posted - 2013.09.25 14:47:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:I think I would like to see the CA-5 grant a 1.5% to armor and shield repair amount with a 10% increase to the secondary effects to the set.
Maybe a CA-6 Omega that gives either a 25% increase or a 50% increase. Bonus to active tanks seems the only thing left yeah, makes sense ca 5 would add that.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Hopelesshobo
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
104
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Posted - 2013.09.25 15:23:00 -
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Well, they could implement these, but they would need to be stupid expensive. Probably on par with the +6% hardwires, if not even higher. Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012. |
Verity Sovereign
Sovereign Fleet Tax Shelter
561
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Posted - 2013.09.25 17:36:00 -
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My main idea is that adding another implant which boosts 2ndary attributes will make the combat/in space potential of this set too high. As this set is unique, why not have the last implant give a bonus to a primary attribute instead. Perhaps a lower bonus, so its like +4s rather than +5s
Arya Regnar wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:I think I would like to see the CA-5 grant a 1.5% to armor and shield repair amount with a 10% increase to the secondary effects to the set.
Maybe a CA-6 Omega that gives either a 25% increase or a 50% increase. Bonus to active tanks seems the only thing left yeah, makes sense ca 5 would add that.
CA-6 makes no sense, that goes into a hardwiring slot
A CA-5 could also boost sig res/lock range/sensor strength. But I worry about adding another one that boosts the 2ndary attributes of all of the geno set.
The PG/CPU/shield and cap boost from the CA-1 and CA-2 are even bigger now for those with CA-3 and CA-4.
When CA-1 and CA-2 came out, they were given to everyone, and often referred to as something that would help noobs along (whom are most in need of more CPU and PG). The old CA-1 and CA-2 still allowed you to train some skills with +5s
Now, the set costs >1 billion, and is actually quite powerful, and there's not much worth training (at least if you plan on undocking and being on grid) with the remaining implant which can be a +5.
So the set shifts away from a noob friendly set, because a noob will rapidly find their training slowed by using the set, and its also too expensive atm.
I'm *hoping* that these implants that came with the box simply gave early access to these implants (note that the box also gave BPCs for Gnosii, but others still got them) - and come christmas we will be able to get CA-3s and CA-4s (although given how much I paid - about 700 mill for both, I'm sort of hoping that you have to choose one or the other, but not both) - if availability picks up and the price comes down, they may be noob friendly again in terms of price
- but it still leaves the issue that a noob user will have their SP advancement ******** by using this set,
The set used to be a noobish set, now its more of a l33t set. I'm hoping it goes back towards the newbie friendly side. Adding another implant which boosts 2ndary attributes will make the combat potential of this set too high.
So add one that boosts the primary attribute. +5 may be too much, newer players are more realistically going to have to choose between +4s, or this set, so why not make the last one change the set into a +4 set. |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
510
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Posted - 2013.09.25 18:39:00 -
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what would be interesting is if the 5th GA is something like
- sig radius reduction Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
807
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Posted - 2013.10.03 13:22:00 -
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Verity Sovereign wrote: CA-6 makes no sense, that goes into a hardwiring slot
The Omega implants that go with each "set" are all slot 6, They do nothing but enhance the boosts of the matching set in the first 5 slots. But yes, it should be a CA-omega not a CA-6.
After all every other set takes all five attribute slots and has an omega in slot 6. |
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
1618
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Posted - 2013.10.03 13:34:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote:Verity Sovereign wrote: CA-6 makes no sense, that goes into a hardwiring slot
The Omega implants that go with each "set" are all slot 6, They do nothing but enhance the boosts of the matching set in the first 5 slots. But yes, it should be a CA-omega not a CA-6. After all every other set takes all five attribute slots and has an omega in slot 6. To be fair it was labeled as CA-6 Omega. I suppose it could have been called Genolution Omega Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
807
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Posted - 2013.10.03 13:59:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Bugsy VanHalen wrote:Verity Sovereign wrote: CA-6 makes no sense, that goes into a hardwiring slot
The Omega implants that go with each "set" are all slot 6, They do nothing but enhance the boosts of the matching set in the first 5 slots. But yes, it should be a CA-omega not a CA-6. After all every other set takes all five attribute slots and has an omega in slot 6. To be fair it was labeled as CA-6 Omega. I suppose it could have been called Genolution Omega Yes "Genolution Omega" has a nice ring to it.
So a CA-5 that affects either armor repping or mass reduction would be sweet. Then finish the set off with a Genolution Omega.
Actually I would not be surprised if something like this was already in the pipe, considering they have added 2 Genolution implants at a time. I would not expect to see this before the winter or even spring expansion though. |
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