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Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2013.09.25 01:58:00 -
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Hi Everyone
Recently I have been running 5/10 and 6/10 in Sansha Low sec with a Munnin (I bring in a Nvexor alt to add DPS to kill the overseer in the 6/10) and I would like to try something new so being that I am only a few jumps away from Angel space I thought that I might try giving that space a try.
I am currently thinking about using a Shield HAM Sacrilege as they seem to tank like a boss, are pretty fast and have great DPS. I'm still 2 weeks away from T2 HAMs being that I am a gunnery pilot hence not just trying these things out.
Now I have a few questions that hopefully you can assist with.
1. Having read up on Angel space I see that there is no 6/10 site, is the Angel Mineral Acquisition Outpost any good from a Isk point of view (the Wiki says it the equivalent), The escalation seems like it might be some what harder than the Sansha 6/10 given the last overseer has webs (is its tank very high like the Sansha overseer?)
2. What are the drops like in Angel sites, I'm assuming they might drop shield mods that are a fair bit more expensive than the Sansha drops.
3. The Angle 5/10 seems to be pretty much the same s the Sansha version (3 rooms with 3 webs in the last room, other than not being able to blitz the second room), any idea how far the web towers are away? the Munnin can hit to 70k with falloff so the towers being 40k away is not an issue, but My Sac fit can only hit to 34k with max skills. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:45:00 -
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All good questions.
Bumping this thread to the front page where maybe someone may have the answers you seek.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.09.28 23:09:00 -
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Good questions indeed. If no one gets to this before hand i'll try to write up full answers later this evening. |
Quentin Marshall
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Posted - 2013.09.28 23:27:00 -
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Would you mind linking your Muninn fit? |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:26:00 -
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@Angel 5/10 If I remember correctly the web towers are about 30 - 40km away.
The loot is pretty good, you can get Invulns and Cynabll BPC. So you can get over 1B out of a single lowsec DED site. Though like any other site, random is random.
I do all of the angel sites in Tornados + offgridbooster.
Yes, the last spawn in 6/10 is hard, though if you fly something fast with range it is not a problem. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.09.29 16:09:00 -
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Andrew Indy wrote:1. Having read up on Angel space I see that there is no 6/10 site, is the Angel Mineral Acquisition Outpost any good from a Isk point of view (the Wiki says it the equivalent), The escalation seems like it might be some what harder than the Sansha 6/10 given the last overseer has webs (is its tank very high like the Sansha overseer?)
The tank isn't as bad as the Sansha overseer but if you let him in close he hits very hard. Kite and you should be fine, even with your limited range in a Sac.
Andrew Indy wrote:2. What are the drops like in Angel sites, I'm assuming they might drop shield mods that are a fair bit more expensive than the Sansha drops.
Angels are kind of awesome because they drop not only shield mods but also prop mods. A full house in Angel low would look something like Gistum invuln, booster, AB, MWD, Cynabal BPC. That beats the hell out of the MAR/EANM/Phantasm BPC in Sansha space.
Andrew Indy wrote:3. The Angle 5/10 seems to be pretty much the same s the Sansha version (3 rooms with 3 webs in the last room, other than not being able to blitz the second room), any idea how far the web towers are away? the Munnin can hit to 70k with falloff so the towers being 40k away is not an issue, but My Sac fit can only hit to 34k with max skills.
40ish. Closer than Bloods, further than Serpentis. Can't recall where they are in the Sansha version. You probably want to rig the Sac for range and carry Javelin. It's this exact dynamic that kept me in a Tengu for so long, but that's a story for another day (and probably another thread).
General reminder: plug your EM/therm resists, especially if you're shield tanking that Sac. Angels do primarily exp/kin, but Seraphim/Cherubim do EM and therm respectively. Saints also do thermal. It looks like the 6/10 overseer also does some EM. That's going to shred an unhardened shield tank, and Amarr T2 resists won't exactly help you there. |
Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2013.10.01 04:37:00 -
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Quentin Marshall wrote:Would you mind linking your Muninn fit?
Sure, Drop a Gyro for a DC2 or EANM if you need a bit more tank for the 5/10. The 6/10 is super easy other than needing more DPS for the overseer.
[Muninn, PVE] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Armor Thermic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II
10MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M Prototype Cloaking Device I
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5
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Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:27:00 -
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Just a Small Update.
Yesterday I got T2 HAMs (woot) but my Support skills still suck (lvl 3 or 4, training up now) so my range with standard ammo is 28km and 42km with Javs and my DPS with drones is about 550 (Max is 34km/52km and 695dps with rage).
Anyway I went to Low and did a couple of Anoms and randomly got a 6/10 escalation (well the unrated equivalent, Angle Mineral whatever). Pretty lucky really, I have run a fair few in Sansha space and never got an escalation and then got one on my second Anom in Angel Space.
The Anoms where super easy, thank never drop below 90% and everything died in short order, the TP kept agro most of the time and my drones only took agro once in the 2 anoms. the Sig was a bit different, Room 2 and 3 where very easy and like the Anoms my shields where never below 90% unless I turned off the Booster (the nuet in the last room forced me to but the DPS was very low so I only went down to 60% before it was dead) . Room 1 was another storey, I'm not sure why but the cruiser batteries took 80% on my shields per volley (3 batteries) where as 4 batteries barely touched me in room 3. I'm guessing they where EM or Thermal vs Kin/Exp from the others but testing will be required.
My range did not help as the Batteries where well out of my range (55km) and the web tower was like 60km. In the end it was not too much of an issue and I just buffer tanked in armour until the web tower was in range (drones first) and then I blapped the Batteries.
So long story short i might have see how things go as I get better skills and if its still an issue ill have to drop an EM ward on and see if that help or drop a bit of DPS and go for a Large booster. |
Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2013.10.09 03:22:00 -
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Update 3.
Finished the second part of the Escalation (stupid null sec , what a pain), Any way after about a hour of making tacs and safes with a Dram and I came in with my Sac . Again everything went pretty smoothly until I triggered the 2 web towers a bit too soon so I was stuck out side of range moving at 50m/s. Ended up warping in my Alt (Maulus, cloaked on the gate for safety) and just droned the first web tower and everything else died in short order.
The Overseer was also a bit of an issue,( I think I need more tank) as he move very fast and has a 90% web . I ended up killing him by changing my Alt to a Navy Vexor with Bouncers and just sniping him while my Sac tried to keep out of web range while shooting Rage at him.
No drop at all (other than the box) boo.
Too other fits I have thought of, Any input would be good. PS i'm cheap (and hate Big KMs, if I want to died i'll do it in a T1 cruiser while having fun not getting ganked) so no blingy fits please.
This one Tanks 2.5 more burst and 80% more pulsing but it would require a lot more effort (not stable at all). The booster is about 50mil so not that bad.
drops 40DPS and the TP.
[Sacrilege, PVE Angel LSB] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Co-Processor II Damage Control II
Large Capacitor Battery II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 10MN Afterburner II Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile Prototype Cloaking Device I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit II Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Warrior II x5 Warrior II x2 |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
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Posted - 2013.10.09 13:47:00 -
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The first room on the 6/10 escalation, don't shoot the two sentries that are close to the acceleration gate. They will spawn the webbing towers. You can shoot the other 4 sentries though.
Can't you fly a tornado? Cheaper, faster, and more DPS and range. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
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Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2013.10.10 01:16:00 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:The first room on the 6/10 escalation, don't shoot the two sentries that are close to the acceleration gate. They will spawn the webbing towers. You can shoot the other 4 sentries though.
Can't you fly a tornado? Cheaper, faster, and more DPS and range.
Yeah, I found that out :)
The guide I was looking at mentioned that it might spawn the tower but did not mention which cruise batteries are the trigger .
I can only use Medium Projectiles for a Nado is out for me. Any fIts you would recommend? How do they tank the last room in the 5/10, i'm assuming if you can blap the Webs in the first 30sec you are fine but after that the dps goes crazy high.
PS, did a 5/10 yesterday (B-type invul ), i did however lose a Sac, mostly because I derped, Aligned out to a safe, recalled drones and then clicked warp on the wrong bookmark and did a 180 and died like 10 seconds later. LOL. It also did not help that I killed a web tower just as I reached like 60% speed and then went back to like 20%. Died at 70% speed.)
Now I have the second fit posted and its much better. |
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