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Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2013.09.27 18:35:00 -
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Tivookempireslave wrote:MyEveLotto wrote:Mycool Jahksn wrote:Who the F-CK cares if SOMER BLINK makes a few mil? You're missing about 6 zeros in that estimate. They're more likely to make a few tril. If CCP had given them a few T3 cruisers or something, there'd be much less concern. CCP gave them a number of priceless items which they did not work for in any way. That's why we're concerned. If you're unhappy that a legit organization gets a pat on the shoulder for the amazing amount of work they've done then I feel sorry for you. The fact that the negative voices of the community stopped this is amazing. This is what's keeping EVE back from becoming a better game.
It's not a pat on the shoulder it's a blank check. If at least there was a way to audit the proceeds of this auction to amke sure every single ISK realted to this action would actually go to the EVE vegas event then it would start to make sense but it's not even the case because SOMER made sure to have thier regular operation also be involved in the auction so nobody will ever know wich ISK was for this or that.
You don't make a better game by having the referee give different calls/bonus to some/one team involved. This is basicly a baseball game where one team gets awarded 5 points on the board because the ref said so. How si that making a better game? |
Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:02:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:MyEveLotto wrote:Berstich wrote:How is SOMER making profit? I thought all proceeds from this go to sponsor the vegas event? If they didn't get these profits, they wouldn't sponsor the event right? So...the money is just going back into the player base? Incorrect. They integrated the community event with Somer's game system. In order to have a chance at winning one of these prizes which are supposedly open to anyone in the community to win, you MUST participate in blinks. This means that in order to possibly win these prizes, you MUST give money to Somer Blink in order to play in Blinks which give you tickets in the Blast. That is how Somer is making a profit. They did not have to pay anything for the prizes they are giving out, which means that it is pure profit that they're taking in through the sale of tickets to have a shot at winning the items. These proceeds are not going to the Vegas event, and because the system for awarding these prizes is integrated into the standard system for Somer Blasts, there is no possible way to know what money came in specifically for these prize (thus, there is no way to funnel that money toward the Vegas event). The money is not going back into the player base at all. It is going into the Somer corporation wallet. Well that's an interesting story there. You have first hand knowledge of this or some kind of proof, I'm sure, right?
Well we do have first hand knowledge aboutt he fact that the ISK cannot be tracked wether they were for the limited items or regular blink participation that somer always see. Since we can't track each ISK, there is no way to know how much ISK would be needed to be xfered to EVE vegas for them to get back to a break even point. The prize being announced before the blast is over mean that somer does not care about how much isk will get in the wallet. They were gonna donate anyway so all they get from those items is gravy on top of regular operation. |
Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:02:00 -
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Community spotlight post gives visibility, not gigantic mountains of ISKs. |
Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2013.09.28 04:19:00 -
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Abditus Cularius wrote:So now your complaint has shifted from "The referee in a game of spies and intrigue has no place vouching for a player entity." to "unless it's someone who says they're not making ISK"
Noted.
They should just not give anything to anybody no matter how it's dealt with after. Much less BS would come out if they were to make these lotteries themselves instead of "trusting" whoever the hell is in the selected 3rd party. |
Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:04:00 -
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Andski wrote:Memnon Shepard wrote:Groups who want CCP sponsorship, make arguments pointing to the marketing campaigns you've created that simultaneously redistribute tons of ISK back into the Eve community fairly. Indicate the individual player projects you've supported with your profits, how you've driven turnout to events, and propose a method for distributing those prizes across 95% of the Eve population (yeah it's currently not a perfect method, we get it). If CCP is looking to move forward with stuff like this, which a lot of the people I've talked to seem to be OK with, act like businesses and figure out how to benefit from it. We're asking CCP to use common ******* sense in who they sponsor. Writing blank checks for a for-profit group, or giving anybody a bunch of unique stuff no strings attached is not the right approach, at all. It's like if they gave Goonswarm BPOs for T3s, and announced it. We'd be the only group in the entire game with such a thing, and I bet you wouldn't be white knighting in that case! CCP would still be wrong.
Except in that case, people would be hatin' on the decision because of "Grr Goons". |
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