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Thye
Sure Thing Logistics
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:33:00 -
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So what is everyone buying on the basis of the Winter expansion announcement?
Because of the new deployables, and the hi sec custom gantry annoucement, I'm currently buying capital construction parts and other items used in orbital construction. |
Sereaph Kansene
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:02:00 -
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Interceptor immunity to warp bubbles plus the warp acceleration boost for smaller ships... I predict price increase maybe? |
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited Superior Eve Engineering
726
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:05:00 -
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Sereaph Kansene wrote:Interceptor immunity to warp bubbles plus the warp acceleration boost for smaller ships... I predict price increase maybe?
The interceptors in Jita were cleared out within 30 seconds. So a bit late to for those.
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Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:36:00 -
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Thye wrote:So what is everyone buying on the basis of the Winter expansion announcement?
Because of the new deployables, and the hi sec custom gantry annoucement, I'm currently buying capital construction parts and other items used in orbital construction.
Hmm no more cheap orcas at least until after Rubicon launches. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1880
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:40:00 -
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Nothing. I wasn't allowed to until now and now it's all bought up.
:( Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille Gallente Federation
272
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:21:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Nothing. I wasn't allowed to until now and now it's all bought up.
:(
CSM seat is hurting your wallet? Surely you anticipated this.... |
arabella blood
I Swear She Looked 18
173
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:00:00 -
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Next time just PM me, ill buy them for you ahead :) Troll for hire. Cheap prices. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:39:00 -
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Tritanium... lots and lots of sub 5.00 ISK Tritanium CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 03:00:00 -
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Plex |
Literally Space Moses
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.27 03:24:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Tritanium... lots and lots of sub 5.00 ISK Tritanium
Why would trit go up? |
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1881
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:36:00 -
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Donbe Scurred wrote:mynnna wrote:Nothing. I wasn't allowed to until now and now it's all bought up.
:( CSM seat is hurting your wallet? Surely you anticipated this....
Actually it was a very tongue in cheek post. I am fully invested, still, in investments made prior to my election to the council, and I don't feel that any of winter's offerings would be large enough to warrant an early cash-out even if I had not won my seat. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille Gallente Federation
277
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:51:00 -
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mynnna wrote: it was a very tongue in cheek post
I figured as much, just giving you a hard time.
The politicians must be careful about what they say |
Logical Chaos
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:03:00 -
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mynnna wrote:
Actually it was a very tongue in cheek post. I am fully invested, still, in investments made prior to my election to the council, and I don't feel that any of winter's offerings would be large enough to warrant an early cash-out even if I had not won my seat.
This pretty much. Interceptors and the other small ships are built too fast in vast quantities to stabilize prices. I don't say you can't make ISK on them especially since some people might buy them just now. But if you're sitting on too many you won't make it in time before the crowd of inventors goes into this market. And since there are literally no barriers for invention of these small ships you will have a hard time. Everyone and his mother will switch to them if the margins stay this way.
TLDR: If you were stupid enough to go on Interceptors heavily you will have to hope for others who are even more stupid to invest into them NOW after the price hike. Or you just have to hold onto them until MoonGoo stablilizes on the new levels and hope you come out on top.
EDIT: That said, they will probably stablize over current levels when they are used more often. |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1455
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:33:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Nothing. I wasn't allowed to until now and now it's all bought up.
:(
Let's view this from a technical point :
So i read a comment from a CCP dev stating clearly to someones theoreticall question that he was not allowed to say he was the alt of his main.
Knowing this , it is CCP's viewpoint to see your characters as seperate individuals and NOT part of your main character or be it your out of game persona as a link.
So then logically you are NOT allowed to make investments with mynna based on the information you have/had.However if you would use one of your other characters then you should be fine to do so as again technically you are also not 'telling anyone else' about the upcoming changes.I mean how could you tell that to your other character without using words ?
Ow and speaking for myself i never do speculations -well only did it once- so neither did it this time.God forbid i'd throw myself over the T mark .
Though i am VERRY happy with the new interceptor changes IF the nullification thingy get's to be a part of it.Can't wait to roam solo with that thing under my ass.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
83
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Posted - 2013.09.27 10:49:00 -
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Literally Space Moses wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Tritanium... lots and lots of sub 5.00 ISK Tritanium Why would trit go up?
New SOE cruiser, new modules, redesigned Marauders (battleship sized ships always demand a lot of Trit),.... CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4351
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:33:00 -
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Thye wrote:So what is everyone buying on the basis of the Winter expansion announcement? .
There's a famous "80/20" law also based on math principles: 80% traders lose and 20% become richer (in RL it's even worse, some statistics claim 90% losers).
Basically if you think and act like "everyone" then you'll perform like "everyone": a net loss.
You had to act weeks ago, now the game's over.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1882
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:33:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Literally Space Moses wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Tritanium... lots and lots of sub 5.00 ISK Tritanium Why would trit go up? New SOE cruiser, new modules, redesigned Marauders (battleship sized ships always demand a lot of Trit),....
If the entire fountain war was a fart in the wind to the mineral markets, what makes you think that a cruiser (tiny mineral requirement), new modules (likewise) and Marauders that normally sell only a couple dozen a day tops in Jita will even be noticeable? Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:38:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Literally Space Moses wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Tritanium... lots and lots of sub 5.00 ISK Tritanium Why would trit go up? New SOE cruiser, new modules, redesigned Marauders (battleship sized ships always demand a lot of Trit),.... If the entire fountain war was a fart in the wind to the mineral markets, what makes you think that a cruiser (tiny mineral requirement), new modules (likewise) and Marauders that normally sell only a couple dozen a day tops in Jita will even be noticeable?
But you are being logical about it. Most speculators are not logical. They buy/build with emotion based upon past money making ideas. So they see what this Rubicon will change and simply buy/build it up. With out looking at things like market demand however should a whole lot of industrialists be stupid and over build marauders which I suspect they will do anyway, as in we may end up with more than a 2 year supply of marauders pre built then they could impact mineral prices in the short term.
I am talking about a 2 year supply for all of eve as opposed to the one time event of the fountain war.
One only needs to track the history of the volume of mineral purchases in Jita to confirm this is happening. |
Robert Morningstar
Morningstar Excavations LTD Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:57:00 -
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Hammer Crendraven wrote:mynnna wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Literally Space Moses wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Tritanium... lots and lots of sub 5.00 ISK Tritanium Why would trit go up? New SOE cruiser, new modules, redesigned Marauders (battleship sized ships always demand a lot of Trit),.... If the entire fountain war was a fart in the wind to the mineral markets, what makes you think that a cruiser (tiny mineral requirement), new modules (likewise) and Marauders that normally sell only a couple dozen a day tops in Jita will even be noticeable? But you are being logical about it. Most speculators are not logical. They buy/build with emotion based upon past money making ideas. So they see what this Rubicon will change and simply buy/build it up. With out looking at things like market demand however should a whole lot of industrialists be stupid and over build marauders which I suspect they will do anyway, as in we may end up with more than a 2 year supply of marauders pre built then they could impact mineral prices in the short term. I am talking about a 2 year supply for all of eve as opposed to the one time event of the fountain war. One only needs to track the history of the volume of mineral purchases in Jita to confirm this is happening.
I do see something not listed that may be greatly impacted but want to check the market myself before I say and hopefully sisi as well
On a side note I should get back to hi sec and start mission running for sisters of eve also. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1882
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Posted - 2013.09.27 22:13:00 -
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Hammer Crendraven wrote:mynnna wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Literally Space Moses wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Tritanium... lots and lots of sub 5.00 ISK Tritanium Why would trit go up? New SOE cruiser, new modules, redesigned Marauders (battleship sized ships always demand a lot of Trit),.... If the entire fountain war was a fart in the wind to the mineral markets, what makes you think that a cruiser (tiny mineral requirement), new modules (likewise) and Marauders that normally sell only a couple dozen a day tops in Jita will even be noticeable? But you are being logical about it. Most speculators are not logical. They buy/build with emotion based upon past money making ideas. So they see what this Rubicon will change and simply buy/build it up. With out looking at things like market demand however should a whole lot of industrialists be stupid and over build marauders which I suspect they will do anyway, as in we may end up with more than a 2 year supply of marauders pre built then they could impact mineral prices in the short term. I am talking about a 2 year supply for all of eve as opposed to the one time event of the fountain war. One only needs to track the history of the volume of mineral purchases in Jita to confirm this is happening.
That's a lot of words to say that most people are morons when it comes to the market. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4352
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:06:00 -
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@Above
And that's the magnificent markets: full of people with the most diverse opinions and predictions... that collectively repeat themselves since thousands of years ago.
And then the others who cash in on those collective patterns.
$$$ Cha-ching! $$$ Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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David Laurentson
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
63
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Posted - 2013.09.28 12:13:00 -
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mynnna wrote: That's a lot of words to say that most people are morons when it comes to the market.
Knowing specifically what kind of mistakes they'll make is key to profiting from their decisions, though. |
Ariel Dawn
F9X
1142
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Posted - 2013.09.28 14:57:00 -
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Looks like some people went very deep on Aurum tokens, they've more or less tripled in price within the last week. |
TornSoul
BIG Insidious Empire
146
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Posted - 2013.09.30 19:56:00 -
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flakeys wrote:mynnna wrote:Nothing. I wasn't allowed to until now and now it's all bought up.
:( Let's view this from a technical point : So i read a comment from a CCP dev stating clearly to someones theoreticall question that he was not allowed to say he was the alt of his main. Knowing this , it is CCP's viewpoint to see your characters as seperate individuals and NOT part of your main character or be it your out of game persona as a link. So then logically you are NOT allowed to make investments with mynna based on the information you have/had.However if you would use one of your other characters then you should be fine to do so as again technically you are also not 'telling anyone else' about the upcoming changes.I mean how could you tell that to your other character without using words ? Except for the fact that you actually run with your RL name for CSM (as well as whichever of your charnames you chose) But nice try |
Salome Musashi
Aura of Darkness Nulli Secunda
9
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Posted - 2013.10.01 04:34:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Basically if you think and act like "everyone" then you'll perform like "everyone": a net loss.
You had to act weeks ago, now the game's over.
This.
Now your best bet is to wait for the actual patch notes, dig deep into those, and figure out where the medium/long term profit is.
Trying to ride that intial post-patch spike is always really dangerous, anyway.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Compulsory Euthanasia
894
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Posted - 2013.10.03 05:20:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Literally Space Moses wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Tritanium... lots and lots of sub 5.00 ISK Tritanium Why would trit go up? New SOE cruiser, new modules, redesigned Marauders (battleship sized ships always demand a lot of Trit),....
Not sure if you've noticed, but a Kronos hull build cost is something like 75% tech 2 only components, 15% minerals and 10% invention costs (assumes no expenses spared on decryptors for obvious reasons). Then those mineral costs are more Pyerite than Trit IIRC.
SOE cruisers will likely use similar amounts of minerals to other navy ships. Not much in other words even if a hell of a lot are built. When I was in the Vexor Navy Issue market, the ship cost was 88% blueprint, 12% minerals; I think it's now closer to 85/15.
I'm lightly invested in Marauder BPCs, but the investment is and will remain light until we see how effective the bastion module is in a range of situations.
On patch day, I'll want to be liquid, ready to ride the big margins on volatile items. War speculation >>> patch speculation anyway. Miner euthanization expert. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. |
Hemmo Paskiainen
425
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:19:00 -
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Dycrypters, certain implants, morphite, strontium ect ect
I heard morphite is going to rise a bit, i wonder why... CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
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Vipre Morte
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:43:00 -
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How high do you think P4's will go, and when will they peak? Currently, I could sell up to 4,000 Wetware Mainframes (not that I have that many) at 1.41mil, whereas they always sat around 1.25mil pre-Rubicon announcement. So they're obviously going up, but how long do you think we should wait before selling? |
El 1974
Freedom For Fantasy The Unthinkables
96
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:47:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:strontium Why strontium? |
pmchem
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
623
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Posted - 2013.10.03 17:34:00 -
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Vipre Morte wrote:How high do you think P4's will go, and when will they peak? Currently, I could sell up to 4,000 Wetware Mainframes (not that I have that many) at 1.41mil, whereas they always sat around 1.25mil pre-Rubicon announcement. So they're obviously going up, but how long do you think we should wait before selling?
There's a good reason that buy orders for the p3-heavy p4s are being warred up right now. Broadcast Nodes, Self-Harmonized Power Cores, and Wetware Mainframes use non-stockpiled p3s and will be heavily consumed to make POCOs when Rubicon comes out. On top of that, their production will slow due to CO disruption/war, and be more expensive because of player taxes.
Those things are gonna go up long-term. Easily. Been recommending people get more via buys. @pmchem on twitter || GARPA || Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
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