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Kueyen
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:58:00 -
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With the newly announced Sisters of Eve faction ships for Eve: Rubicon, the demand for SoE loyalty points is likely to skyrocket now that it's not just probe launchers and probes that you will be able to buy with them.
I feel the time has come to ask for the reinstatement of security-level mission clearance to Inesmir Jimud, the L4 agent in the Gicodel VII - Moon 14 - Sisters of EVE Bureau station. She lost that clearance on that fateful day of May 19th, 2011, which saw the release of Incursion 1.5. Long enough have we had to endure that only Lozdod Pousel in Osmon held the only high-sec L4 security clearance amongs the SoE. With the Sisters of Eve revealed as affiliated with the Gallente (no surprise there) and the Amarr (some surprise there), capsuleers supporting the SoE seeking marching orders of the highest grade should obtain them in Gallente (and Amarr) space before Caldari space.
To be honest, the SoE should probably have a L4 security agent in each of the 4 faction territories. I'm focussing on the case for the one in Gicodel to be restored, though, as I feel backed by the lore and the history of EVE in this matter.
I welcome your support, as well as your thoughts and comments. |
Ugleb
Jotunn Risi Ushra'Khan
365
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:31:00 -
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I'm in favour of the SOE treating all four empires equally and placing a lvl 4 agent inside the territory of each nation.
If they don't I may be forced to interpret this as a slight against the Brutor tribe and become upset about it. I'll think of a justification after the fact in order to give everyone else reasons to be annoyed with me, they seem to enjoy that. http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/
The Jotunn Risi are now recruiting, Brutor ancestry required in order to best represent the Brutor interest.-á Join channel JORIS to learn more! |
Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
488
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:34:00 -
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Full support! Let's get L4 agents in all Empires! Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
637
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:31:00 -
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If their mandate is to serve all then it does make sense to cover all the main up to and including L4, otherwise they are playing favourites and I know the sisters don't want to seem to favour one group over another.
m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
12033
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:53:00 -
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More than likely the CCP Dev made a mistake and said Amarr instead of Minmatar. According to standings, SoE is positive towards Gallente and Minmatar.
I don't think CCP is changing all the inter factional standings and factional allies within this game. That's a lot of work to do which would negate the very core of Eve's back history.
DMC |
Morrigan LeSante
The Lost and Forgotten Troopers
374
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Posted - 2013.09.27 08:09:00 -
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I suspect so, the SoE agents keep sending me to blow up Amarr ships |
Marc Callan
Interstellar Steel Templis Dragonaors
296
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:22:00 -
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Philosophically, the Gallente and Minmatar may be more sympathetic to the SOE, but as far as mechanics go, we've already got two pirate factions using Gallente/Minmatar skill sets.
(We need an alternative to "pirate faction" that would also cover SOE. How's "non-government faction" sound?) "Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred..." - Niccolo Machiavelli-á |
Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
81
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:58:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:More than likely the CCP Dev made a mistake and said Amarr instead of Minmatar.
He said about something about Armor resists from the Amarr side. The ship itself doesn't exactly look like Minni engineers had a hand in its creation, does it?
Maybe the empress had a sekrit meeting with Sister Alitura or something.
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Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
625
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Posted - 2013.09.27 10:01:00 -
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Nam Dnilb wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:More than likely the CCP Dev made a mistake and said Amarr instead of Minmatar. He said about something about Armor resists from the Amarr side. The ship itself doesn't exactly look like Minni engineers had a hand in its creation, does it? Maybe the empress had a sekrit meeting with Sister Alitura or something.
Or maybe there's been a little bit of technology theft going on. Not that the Sisters would ever engage in such underhanded behaviour... |
Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
81
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Posted - 2013.09.27 11:10:00 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:Nam Dnilb wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:More than likely the CCP Dev made a mistake and said Amarr instead of Minmatar. He said about something about Armor resists from the Amarr side. The ship itself doesn't exactly look like Minni engineers had a hand in its creation, does it? Maybe the empress had a sekrit meeting with Sister Alitura or something. Or maybe there's been a little bit of technology theft going on. Not that the Sisters would ever engage in such underhanded behaviour...
Theft is such a harsh word. Export business, yes, maybe call it piggyback export business. Khanid would have sold it anyway, just look at all their mingling with the capitalist pigs Caldari. |
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Kahdath
The Lost Shadows Easily Excited
3
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Posted - 2013.09.27 11:16:00 -
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I'm pretty sure they meant what they said with Gallente and Amarr. 1) Because there's only two combinations left with no associated faction ships: Gallente/Amarr and Caldari/Minmatar 2) The ships will be getting bonuses to Drones (Gallente) and Armour Resist (Amarr)
The real question is, which faction will end up getting Caldari/Minmatar? |
Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
81
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Posted - 2013.09.27 11:46:00 -
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Kahdath wrote:The real question is, which faction will end up getting Caldari/Minmatar?
"It is unclear how Thukker Mix could master the intricacies of cloaking technology so quickly after the fall of Crielere. According to Professor Oggand Viftuin, head of R&D, the tribe managed to recruit some senior Caldari scientist that used to work on the Mirage Project at Crielere. Ishukone has denied this, claiming that the Thukkers aquired the technology from prototypes stolen by the Guristas."
Hmmm... Minnies are already working on it.
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
62
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:37:00 -
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I predict a mass migration of ninja salvagers and griefers to Osmon. Yesterday. |
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:49:00 -
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Osmon shall reach 500 pilots shortly. Matketeers go! |
Robby Altair
18
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:58:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:I predict a mass migration of ninja salvagers and griefers to Osmon. Yesterday.
The Spod wrote:Osmon shall reach 500 pilots shortly. Matketeers go!
One can only hope. Arrrh....
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Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
490
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Posted - 2013.09.27 18:20:00 -
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I figure CCP is going to take a look at faction standings and the impact SOE might have on them... Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
Morrigan LeSante
The Lost and Forgotten Troopers
375
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Posted - 2013.09.27 19:58:00 -
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The amount of TiDi in Osmon and surroundings is ludicrous. |
Higgs Foton
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:41:00 -
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I say: Place all SOE lvl 4 agents in the SOE NPC null sec region in Pure Blind. |
Deadmeat GateTester
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:13:00 -
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I like the idea of Osmon becoming even more bloated with more SOE mission runners, the Ice Miners, and griefing scum that will soon make Osmon their home. Let's call it Jita 2.....
In fact get rid of all Level4 SOE security agents except the one in Osmon.... |
Freako X
Doom Inc
100
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Posted - 2013.09.28 03:40:00 -
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CCP has talked about capsuleers moving away from governments and starting to think independently and how the game will move toward exploration of unknown regions, etc. That fits with the SOE concept. Maybe they are bringing some ships in-game to help focus the gamers on their back-story to help the evolution of the game's future make sense? Exploration of the eve-gate, bulkier exploration ships, future colonization of unknown regions ....
... fits in my small mind. SOE in all regions, unless it is needed for more pew pew to advance future vision-expansions for exploration of unknown regions. |
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Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 03:51:00 -
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Well they are all in Low sec already. And there are a whole lot of PVE ships headed there just now to get SoE LP.
Hmm anybody getting any ideas.... |
Verity Sovereign
Sovereign Fleet Tax Shelter
563
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Posted - 2013.09.28 15:52:00 -
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Yes, my idea is to incursion, and convert LP to SOE |
To Be Me
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.09.30 00:45:00 -
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Higgs Foton wrote:I say: Place all SOE lvl 4 agents in the SOE NPC null sec region in Pure Blind.
This
The rest is **** opinions |
sparx Thiesant
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.02 15:00:00 -
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Ccp should make a opisite to soe for balance hmm maybe brothers of eden for amarr/cald but more focused on opresion and ruleing theem |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
12485
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Posted - 2013.10.02 18:59:00 -
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Kahdath wrote:I'm pretty sure they meant what they said with Gallente and Amarr. 1) Because there's only two combinations left with no associated faction ships: Gallente/Amarr and Caldari/Minmatar 2) The ships will be getting bonuses to Drones (Gallente) and Armour Resist (Amarr)
The real question is, which faction will end up getting Caldari/Minmatar? You seem to think the SoE ships are gonna require both Gallente and Amarr ship skills to pilot. I don't remember the Dev's mentioning that at all. I think there will probably be some new skills added to the game = Sisters Frigate and Sisters Cruiser skillbooks.
Yes the Dev's did say the ships will have a Drone bonus like Gallente and Armor bonus like Amarr. They also said the ships will be Tech 1 with Covert Ops capability and be packing some firepower as well. They also said the Sisters Cruiser will be able to handle DED 6/10 plexes.
Obviously the intention is to encourage players to explore low sec. I don't see it requiring cross training between enemy Factions in order to pilot those ships but hey, lately CCP has been turning most everything in game upside down so you just might be right.
DMC
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Furious Purpose
Dirt 'n' Glitter
0
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Posted - 2013.10.03 11:58:00 -
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Kahdath wrote:I'm pretty sure they meant what they said with Gallente and Amarr. 1) Because there's only two combinations left with no associated faction ships: Gallente/Amarr and Caldari/Minmatar 2) The ships will be getting bonuses to Drones (Gallente) and Armour Resist (Amarr)
The real question is, which faction will end up getting Caldari/Minmatar?
How would Caldari/Minmatar ships work? They would presumably be mass-produced in vast space-industrial complexes from rusty odds and ends they happened to have lying around? |
Kueyen
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:13:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Kahdath wrote:I'm pretty sure they meant what they said with Gallente and Amarr. 1) Because there's only two combinations left with no associated faction ships: Gallente/Amarr and Caldari/Minmatar 2) The ships will be getting bonuses to Drones (Gallente) and Armour Resist (Amarr)
The real question is, which faction will end up getting Caldari/Minmatar? You seem to think the SoE ships are gonna require both Gallente and Amarr ship skills to pilot. I don't remember the Dev's mentioning that at all. I think there will probably be some new skills added to the game = Sisters Frigate and Sisters Cruiser skillbooks. Yes the Dev's did say the ships will have a Drone bonus like Gallente and Armor bonus like Amarr. They also said the ships will be Tech 1 with Covert Ops capability and be packing some firepower as well. They also said the Sisters Cruiser will be able to handle DED 6/10 plexes. Obviously the intention is to encourage players to explore low sec. I don't see it requiring cross training between enemy Factions in order to pilot those ships but hey, lately CCP has been turning most everything in game upside down so you just might be right. Please, no misinformation in this thread. The opinions of some of the posts are hard enough to grok, without having some of them based on rumours and heresay: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=283120 .
There was, and now most certainly is, EVERY reason to believe SoE ships will operate exactly like Guristas, Blood Raider, Sansha, Angel or Serpentis ships do: by requiring both ship skills that the hull derives bonusses from (in this case Amarr frigate + Gallente frigate for the Astero, and Amarr cruiser + Gallente cruiser for the Stratios). Support L4 highsec Sisters of EVE security agents in all four empire factions! Those new SoE faction ships in EVE: Rubicon won't buy themselves! |
Nadia Gallen
Advanced Engineering and Research Division
18
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:37:00 -
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Kueyen wrote:
There was, and now most certainly is, EVERY reason to believe SoE ships will operate exactly like Guristas, Blood Raider, Sansha, Angel or Serpentis ships do: by requiring both ship skills that the hull derives bonusses from (in this case Amarr frigate + Gallente frigate for the Astero, and Amarr cruiser + Gallente cruiser for the Stratios).
Please, no misinformation in this thread. The opinions of some of the posts are hard enough to grok, without having some of them based on rumours and heresay.
I'm sure the highly respected Sisters of EVE, have good reason not to operate with a high level security agent in Gicodel VII - Moon 14 - Sisters of EVE Bureau station. There a agent present in that system, operating with Distribution, which might be more important to have a high level agent preforming that task, and let the security, be handled by another agent, like the one in Quier. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
12588
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Posted - 2013.10.03 19:46:00 -
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Kueyen wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Kahdath wrote:I'm pretty sure they meant what they said with Gallente and Amarr. 1) Because there's only two combinations left with no associated faction ships: Gallente/Amarr and Caldari/Minmatar 2) The ships will be getting bonuses to Drones (Gallente) and Armour Resist (Amarr)
The real question is, which faction will end up getting Caldari/Minmatar? You seem to think the SoE ships are gonna require both Gallente and Amarr ship skills to pilot. I don't remember the Dev's mentioning that at all. I think there will probably be some new skills added to the game = Sisters Frigate and Sisters Cruiser skillbooks. Yes the Dev's did say the ships will have a Drone bonus like Gallente and Armor bonus like Amarr. They also said the ships will be Tech 1 with Covert Ops capability and be packing some firepower as well. They also said the Sisters Cruiser will be able to handle DED 6/10 plexes. Obviously the intention is to encourage players to explore low sec. I don't see it requiring cross training between enemy Factions in order to pilot those ships but hey, lately CCP has been turning most everything in game upside down so you just might be right. Please, no misinformation in this thread. The opinions of some of the posts are hard enough to grok, without having some of them based on rumours and heresay: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=283120 . There was, and now most certainly is, EVERY reason to believe SoE ships will operate exactly like Guristas, Blood Raider, Sansha, Angel or Serpentis ships do: by requiring both ship skills that the hull derives bonusses from (in this case Amarr frigate + Gallente frigate for the Astero, and Amarr cruiser + Gallente cruiser for the Stratios).
Please don't throw stones at others after the fact. If you wanna take troll pot shots at people, go back to GD sub-forum.
Also I had stated that was what I thought was gonna happen, not what will happen.
DMC
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Bibosikus
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
155
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:03:00 -
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Well written Op, and well argued. +1 The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |
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