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boernl
L0s Zetas Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:46:00 -
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hello folks
me and i know a lot of others bought the mind link after themining barge change
at that point there was not a anouncement yet that they were going to change way they could be aquired
so i bought that thing 2.1 b
and about 2 days later they pronounce that the mind links could be bought with concorde lp
i say that they should reimburse the difference between the price we payed and the price it became
the price now is only a fraction of what is was when it was still a "rare" drop
already made a petition about this but all they simply dont care
i call this theft from the players by ccp
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3643
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:49:00 -
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sad_trombone.wav
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
VTyx Soul
ENEBRIATED MINERS Ltd Iron State
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:52:00 -
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Your tears and short sightedness fills me with joy. |
boernl
L0s Zetas Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:58:00 -
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well you 2 both clearly miss the reason wy i made this threat
i would apreciate it if ppl dont troll in this case |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
169
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:59:00 -
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I sold one of my two mindlinks before the patch, but still had one sitting in inventory that I hadn't given a thought to.
I lost a billion isk easy by not selling it. I'd like that put directly into my wallet too, please. I am not an alt of Chribba. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
593
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:59:00 -
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Welcome to EVE OP. Stuff like you're talking about happens all the time. It's part of the game. CCP did it to help out the masses, so they don't really care if one or two people are butthurt over changes like this. Kind of mimics real life, eh? CCP didn't steal your money, they didn't make the changes just to steal your isk. Just absorb your loss, move on, and try not to make yourself look too silly over it. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
169
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:01:00 -
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boernl wrote:well you 2 both clearly miss the reason wy i made this threat
i would apreciate it if ppl dont troll in this case
Ignore the trolls buddy, you're in the right. Everyone who ever bought one of those mindlinks is due a heavy reimbursement by CCP.
In all honesty, CCP should probably reimburse every character who ever lost isk due to a market fluctuation that came about from new/altered items. Fair is fair.
I am not an alt of Chribba. |
boernl
L0s Zetas Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:04:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:boernl wrote:well you 2 both clearly miss the reason wy i made this threat
i would apreciate it if ppl dont troll in this case Ignore the trolls buddy, you're in the right. Everyone who ever bought one of those mindlinks is due a heavy reimbursement by CCP. In all honesty, CCP should probably reimburse every character who ever lost isk due to a market fluctuation that came about from new/altered items. Fair is fair.
thats a little more than is realistic
if they would set a period of a week or 2 before they announced it ( since that is when they went skyhigh after the mining changes) that would be realistic |
Tivookempireslave
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:08:00 -
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boernl wrote:hello folks
me and i know a lot of others bought the mind link after themining barge change
at that point there was not a anouncement yet that they were going to change way they could be aquired
so i bought that thing 2.1 b
and about 2 days later they pronounce that the mind links could be bought with concorde lp
i say that they should reimburse the difference between the price we payed and the price it became
the price now is only a fraction of what is was when it was still a "rare" drop
already made a petition about this but all they simply dont care
i call this theft from the players by ccp
This will never happen, you're just making a fool out of yourself.
However, please do state the percentage of salt in your tears at this very moment. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3648
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:18:00 -
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boernl wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:boernl wrote:well you 2 both clearly miss the reason wy i made this threat
i would apreciate it if ppl dont troll in this case Ignore the trolls buddy, you're in the right. Everyone who ever bought one of those mindlinks is due a heavy reimbursement by CCP. In all honesty, CCP should probably reimburse every character who ever lost isk due to a market fluctuation that came about from new/altered items. Fair is fair. thats a little more than is realistic if they would set a period of a week or 2 before they announced it ( since that is when they went skyhigh after the mining changes) that would be realistic
This happens all the time.
CCP intentionally does not release some expansion information beforehand especially if it could be used to exploit the market or obtain an unfair advantage.
Could be worse, you could have speculated and bought a metric ass-load of tractor beam BPOs.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4626
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:22:00 -
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Hilarious. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
brinelan
The Flying Dead Insidious Empire
102
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:28:00 -
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It was worth 2.1b to you at the time you bought it and you were ok with it at that price, nothing changed about the implant... so the market fluxuated, it happens. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1588
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:38:00 -
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Lemme guess, you still have cargo rigs on your Hulk as well... |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 18:03:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Lemme guess, you still have cargo rigs on your Hulk as well...
T2 Cargo Rigs! |
PhatController
Mum Rider Alliance Abandon PlayGrounds
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Posted - 2013.09.27 18:26:00 -
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boernl wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:boernl wrote:well you 2 both clearly miss the reason wy i made this threat
i would apreciate it if ppl dont troll in this case Ignore the trolls buddy, you're in the right. Everyone who ever bought one of those mindlinks is due a heavy reimbursement by CCP. In all honesty, CCP should probably reimburse every character who ever lost isk due to a market fluctuation that came about from new/altered items. Fair is fair. thats a little more than is realistic if they would set a period of a week or 2 before they announced it ( since that is when they went skyhigh after the mining changes) that would be realistic
All this would do is have a bunch of crybabies like yourself, making forums post that they bought the mindlink 2 weeks and 1 days before the patch and din't get a refund.
Prices change in eve all the time, get over it. |
Rengerel en Distel
1951
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Posted - 2013.09.27 18:43:00 -
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I sold 5 or 6 of them when they were only going for 500M, can i get the 1.6B difference each I lost by not holding onto them until the price went up? Willing to just take a SOMER SOE ship instead to make it easier on CCP.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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boernl
L0s Zetas Brothers of Tangra
9
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Posted - 2013.09.27 19:06:00 -
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hatcontroller
i am not talking about market inflictions
im talking about a chaneg ccp made for the (again) newer players so they dont have to work so hard to obtain the mindlink
and yes i did expect ppl to respond to the threst thatswhere i made it for
only i dislike it a lot that so many ppl only respont with trols instead of decent comments |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.09.27 19:23:00 -
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boernl wrote:
im talking about a chaneg ccp made for the (again) newer players so they dont have to work so hard to obtain the mindlink
No. CCP simply fixed these so they would be more available again. These links only got so expensive because they used to come from 2 sources: a rare lvl 4 mission reward, and certain COSMOS plexes. Then in 2010 CCP nerfed one of those sources (COSMOS). So instead of reworking that stuff, they decided to make them a LP store item like most every other implant.
I still have a link in a hangar somewhere I only paid 90mil for back before the nerf. I guess I should be clamoring that CCP ruined my chance to sell it for a billion or more.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
boernl
L0s Zetas Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2013.09.28 16:16:00 -
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yes that is why they were called "rare" and rare items are expensive
if they wanna fix something like that
they could have announced it when they changed the mining system that would have bin fine
but instead they let the price go skyhigh and than they change it
that the price went up so much had to do with changing the mining system
the biggest problem are the players who are afraid to open theyr mouths if they disagree on something like this
but they do troll the ppl that do have the balls to go against ccp |
X ATM092
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
95
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Posted - 2013.09.28 16:31:00 -
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The price went up because of the addition of other storyline missions which diluted the supply. You paid 2.1b for something you thought was worth 2.1b and you still have the thing, you lost nothing. You are bad at eve and bad at thinking. |
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boernl
L0s Zetas Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:06:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:The price went up because of the addition of other storyline missions which diluted the supply. You paid 2.1b for something you thought was worth 2.1b and you still have the thing, you lost nothing. You are bad at eve and bad at thinking.
dit bedoel ik dus mensen die alleen posten om te trollen en niets toevoegen |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16698
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:11:00 -
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boernl wrote:X ATM092 wrote:The price went up because of the addition of other storyline missions which diluted the supply. You paid 2.1b for something you thought was worth 2.1b and you still have the thing, you lost nothing. You are bad at eve and bad at thinking. dit bedoel ik dus mensen die alleen posten om te trollen en niets toevoegen GǪexcept that he's right.
If it wasn't worth 2.1bn for you, you shouldn't have bought it at that price. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
boernl
L0s Zetas Brothers of Tangra
9
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:19:00 -
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Tippia wrote:boernl wrote:X ATM092 wrote:The price went up because of the addition of other storyline missions which diluted the supply. You paid 2.1b for something you thought was worth 2.1b and you still have the thing, you lost nothing. You are bad at eve and bad at thinking. dit bedoel ik dus mensen die alleen posten om te trollen en niets toevoegen GǪexcept that he's right. If it wasn't worth 2.1bn for you, you shouldn't have bought it at that price.
at that moment yh it was worth it
than 2 days later it wasnt thatswhy i say that ccp should invert a reimbursement time a window of time
i apologise for the dutch line in between btw
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16699
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:24:00 -
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boernl wrote:at that moment yh it was worth it
than 2 days later it wasnt GǪand presumably, at that point, you already had what you paid a fair price for. You probably even installed it, making all future prices irrelevant since there is no resale.
Just because the markets change doesn't mean that you got an unfair deal. I presume that if you want a reimbursement period, it'll be two-way: if you buy something, and then, a week later, it becomes more expensive, the additional ISK is drawn from your wallet to cover this new, higher price?
Why should they reimburse a deal that was entirely fair and which you felt was worth-while? If it was worth it, it was worth it, and you've lost nothing. If you were trying to speculate, then that risk is part of the business and you lost your gamble so there should definitely not be any reimbursement. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
boernl
L0s Zetas Brothers of Tangra
9
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:27:00 -
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Tippia wrote:boernl wrote:at that moment yh it was worth it
than 2 days later it wasnt GǪand presumably, at that point, you already had what you paid a fair price for. You probably even installed it, making all future prices irrelevant since there is no resale. Just because the markets change doesn't mean that you got an unfair deal. I presume that if you want a reimbursement period, it'll be two-way: if you buy something, and then, a week later, it becomes more expensive, the additional ISK is drawn from your wallet to cover this new, higher price? Why should they reimburse a deal that was entirely fair and which you felt was worth-while? If it was worth it, it was worth it, and you've lost nothing. If you were trying to speculate, then that risk is part of the business and you lost your gamble so there should definitely not be any reimbursement.
thats the whole point that i try to make clear
it was not a market change it was a interfearance of ccp |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16699
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:33:00 -
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boernl wrote:thats the whole point that i try to make clear
it was not a market change it was a interfearance of ccp GǪand no less a market change. CCP did not set either the old or the new price. Had the sellers been rational, they would have tried to maintain the higher price and just milked people for everything they were worth.
You still bought it for a fair price. Why should you be reimbursed for a deal you were entirely ok with? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4651
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:53:00 -
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So if it had made the price go up, you'd be demanding ccp take the additional value from your wallet There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
boernl
L0s Zetas Brothers of Tangra
9
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Posted - 2013.09.28 18:32:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:So if it had made the price go up, you'd be demanding ccp take the additional value from your wallet
thats bull what you write here
if it goes from rare to lp item |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16700
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Posted - 2013.09.28 18:37:00 -
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boernl wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:So if it had made the price go up, you'd be demanding ccp take the additional value from your wallet thats bull what you write here if it goes from rare to lp item No, it's a logical consequence of your suggestion. You are asking to have your purchases adjusted after the fact if something happens to the market that alters their value for a period of time after the trade has been done.
If the price goes down, you get reimbursed the additional ISK you had to pay. If the price goes you, you reimburse CCP the additional ISK you didn't pay. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
boernl
L0s Zetas Brothers of Tangra
9
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Posted - 2013.09.28 18:47:00 -
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Tippia wrote:boernl wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:So if it had made the price go up, you'd be demanding ccp take the additional value from your wallet thats bull what you write here if it goes from rare to lp item No, it's a logical consequence of your suggestion. You are asking to have your purchases adjusted after the fact if something happens to the market that alters their value for a period of time after the trade has been done. If the price goes down, you get reimbursed the additional ISK you had to pay. If the price goes you, you reimburse CCP the additional ISK you didn't pay.
if it was direct market related the post woudlent have made sense
but if ccp literary fucks the ppl over it does |
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