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Corlus Ademinan
Molden Heath Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.01 00:19:00 -
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Supported by an unkown investor our corp is set to create a Federation in which Caldari and Minmatar capsuleers and non-capsuleers can work together. Our people are enemies by design not by choice. The Minmatar are allies with the Galliente because they help protect them against the Amarr and the Amarr are only our allies (Caldari) because of economic reasons couple with the ongoing war between the Galliente which does not necessarily involve the Amarr or Minmatar.
The Caldari and Minmatar are survivors. We both have been oppressed by another nation who deemed it necessary to impose thier culture and in some cases religions on us. We will show our people that we are not enemies and will work together and become stronger nations. But we need you to help bring this to reality.
The Plan
Short Term Goals
GÇó Recruit new members to our cause. Minmatar and Caldari pilots are priority but we do accept Galliente. Obviously no Amarr except under extreme conditions and approved by the whole of the corp
GÇó Both Mining and Military Ops will be scheduled and run on a consistent basis to improve our reputation and resources
GÇó Research and trial group concerning the defense against Sansha Incursions
GÇó To further our sustainability and independence we will lay the groundwork of an Indy department supplying ships and materials for corp use and profit
GÇó Research and trial group into low security anti-slaver and anti-pirate ops
Long Term Goals GÇó For military operations we would like to hold a standing fleet of ships so to avoid as much as we can the loss of private ships involving corp operations
GÇó Effective and efficient production of ships and materials to fill private orders for personal, corp, and alliance customers
GÇó Become involved and ingrained within the pro-minmatar community and join the fight against those who oppress them. To ultimately gain the trust of both the Republic and State to form a positive co-existence
GÇó Establish an alliance of like minded corps and pilots who share the same fight and philosophy as ourselves
GÇó Create a Interplanetary Strike Force (Dust 514) either through Corp creation, contracts, or alliance
Looking for Leadership and Director positions as well. If you are currently in a position where you feel you have been hemmed in with no way of showing your leadership potential then join us and fulfill your potential
Contact Corlus Ademinan either through PM, Convo or reply to this posting
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1823
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Posted - 2013.10.01 00:33:00 -
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So you'll accept Gallente pilots, will you? And why do you not expect your Caldari recruits to have a problem with that. Good luck keeping order amongst your baseliner staff too, one good drink on TovilToba day and I'd expect a lot of barfights. |
Corlus Ademinan
Molden Heath Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.01 00:49:00 -
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These recruits obviously will come in knowing that this venture is a joint effort that involves possibly old enemies which can hold painful memories and bitter rivalries. But if they are here they are here for a higher cause. As capsuleers we have a chance to make long lasting changes to this cluster of ours. Id rather be associated with those looking to make those positive changes than just to use our unique and powerful stature of relative immortality to hold the status quo. Its time that we evolved beyond a lifetime of human limitations. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1823
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Posted - 2013.10.01 01:10:00 -
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Corlus Ademinan wrote:These recruits obviously will come in knowing that this venture is a joint effort that involves possibly old enemies which can hold painful memories and bitter rivalries. But if they are here they are here for a higher cause. As capsuleers we have a chance to make long lasting changes to this cluster of ours. Id rather be associated with those looking to make those positive changes than just to use our unique and powerful stature of relative immortality to hold the status quo. Its time that we evolved beyond a lifetime of human limitations.
Except for the Amarrians? Because obviously the Minmatar can't be trusted to let bygones be bygones?
I'm just trying to discern WHICH grouping you're intending to insult here? |
Corlus Ademinan
Molden Heath Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.01 01:17:00 -
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Not intending to insult any group. If one of our objectives is to derail slaving operations than how can we possibly let an Amarrian be a part of our group when a large part of thier religion is about holding people against thier will. I mentioned that even an Amarrian is welcome albeit the most specific of circumstances and approved by the entirety of the corp.
The war between the Amarrians and the Minmatar is in my view a harsher reality. Slavery is one of the greatest cruelties humanity can bestow upon itself. In my opinion it pales in comparison to the riff between Caldari and Galliente. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
554
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Posted - 2013.10.01 02:35:00 -
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Corlus Ademinan wrote: GÇó Recruit new members to our cause. Minmatar and Caldari pilots are priority but we do accept Galliente. Obviously no Amarr except under extreme conditions and approved by the whole of the corp
Such disrespect to our allies and desire to lick our enemies butts is shameful disgrace, if not straightforward treason. Those Caldari, that would participate in this, should take their own lives to wash this stain with their own blood.
Should such filth, not deserving name of Caldari, be encountered working for this... "union", they must be disposed of, like general traitors, pirates, outlaw exiles or gallente-supporting scum. |
Andrea Okazon
Alexylva Paradox
164
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:03:00 -
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Well, things seem to be getting off to a fabulous start. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1829
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:39:00 -
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Nothing more than a full and frank exchange of views. I just find it odd that an organisation that claims to be pro-Caldari as much as it is pro-Minmatar starts off by demeaning our centuries of struggle because 'the minmatar struggle is more legit'.
This is clearly a pro-Minmatar organisation - which is fine, but let's call a spanner a spanner, eh?
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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
847
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Posted - 2013.10.01 15:54:00 -
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Best of luck. Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's. |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
549
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:08:00 -
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The ongoing war between the Federation and Caldari certainly does involve the Minmatar. A third of the Federation being Minmatar is not a trivial detail. |
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1831
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:46:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:The ongoing war between the Federation and Caldari certainly does involve the Minmatar. A third of the Federation being Minmatar is not a trivial detail.
You forget that we're capable of something the Federation evidently isn't. We don't see the matter of how they self-identify culturally or religously to be important. If they're politically Gallente then they're Gallente.
Everything else is really none of our business. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
155
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Posted - 2013.10.01 18:46:00 -
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Oh lord. This brings back some painful memories. Where's John Revenent when you need him.
-Eran |
Corlus Ademinan
Molden Heath Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:01:00 -
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Thank you all for your opinions about the matter in which I would like to conduct my mission. This was never meant to be a debate but a declaration of a mission and an attempt to find those who are interested and share the same beliefs or want to help in this cause.
I understand fully that this was never going to be a widespread belief or popular cause but it is what I wish to attain with my relative immortality and I do hope there are others who feel the same. Whether this group stays very small or grows exponentially I do truly hope those who support this action come to my side publicly and put thier blood sweat and tears instead of just thier words or private support although I do appreciate it very much. |
Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
154
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:06:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:Oh lord. This brings back some painful memories. Where's John Revenent when you need him.
-Eran You wouldn't perhaps be referring to the Cal-Matari Program that I-RED once operated, would you? If so, then I believe you would be more interested in seeking me as I was the program's overseer following the defection of Pilot Cheiftan from our organization.
As for the original purpose of this declaration, I wish you good fortune, Mister Ademinan. If this really is a declaration to state the intentions of your organization, then perhaps you may find it to be of benefit to hire an attorney of some sort to draft a better, more precise document stating your intentions. As of now, your post detailing your organization's intentions seems a bit vague, if not poorly done.
Moitte. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
156
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:11:00 -
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Korsavius wrote:Eran Mintor wrote:Oh lord. This brings back some painful memories. Where's John Revenent when you need him.
-Eran You wouldn't perhaps be referring to the Cal-Matari Program that I-RED once operated, would you? If so, then I believe you would be more interested in seeking me as I was the program's overseer following the defection of Pilot Cheiftan from our organization.
That's an interesting take on things...
-Eran
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Corlus Ademinan
Molden Heath Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:20:00 -
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Korsavius wrote:Eran Mintor wrote:Oh lord. This brings back some painful memories. Where's John Revenent when you need him.
-Eran You wouldn't perhaps be referring to the Cal-Matari Program that I-RED once operated, would you? If so, then I believe you would be more interested in seeking me as I was the program's overseer following the defection of Pilot Cheiftan from our organization. As for the original purpose of this declaration, I wish you good fortune, Mister Ademinan. If this really is a declaration to state the intentions of your organization, then perhaps you may find it to be of benefit to hire an attorney of some sort to draft a better, more precise document stating your intentions. As of now, your post detailing your organization's intentions seems a bit vague, if not poorly done. Moitte.
Then I am afraid I have shown my somewhat inexperience in this type of complicated political experiment. If you know any experts who would be sympathetic to this cause I would be greatful for thier expertise. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
156
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:28:00 -
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Well you can talk to the pilot Verin Hakatain, known as "Stitcher" in your neocom, since he seems to be working towards enhancing relationships between Minmatar and Caldari. As far as past experiments...well they didn't end well. Cheiftan, John Revenent, or myself could tell you more but it's not something I like to talk about and Cheiftan is retired to my knowledge. Haven't seen John for some time but I'm sure he's still around.
I might suggest talking to Stitcher. In the meantime, try to figure out how you're going to ensure the two sides stick together when the going gets rough. It's a little more complicated than comparing history to create strong bonds. The cultures are massively different, though Stitcher would disagree.
-Eran |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2136
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Posted - 2013.10.01 21:56:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:Where's John Revenent when you need him.
Eran Mintor wrote: Haven't seen John for some time but I'm sure he's still around.
Taish+ì Revenent is currently occupied with our Syndicate campaigns. He has neither the time nor inclination to get involved in Cal-Matari relations. That ship has long since sailed.
If you'd like to arrange a meeting with the Taish+ì on some other subject more relevant to our operations, such as direct trade, please have your proposal in written form sent to my inbox for review. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
159
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Posted - 2013.10.01 23:30:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Eran Mintor wrote:Where's John Revenent when you need him. Eran Mintor wrote: Haven't seen John for some time but I'm sure he's still around. Taish+ì Revenent is currently occupied with our Syndicate campaigns. He has neither the time nor inclination to get involved in Cal-Matari relations. That ship has long since sailed. If you'd like to arrange a meeting with the Taish+ì on some other subject more relevant to our operations, such as direct trade, please have your proposal in written form sent to my inbox for review.
Ah no, I have no business with your Taish+ì at this time. You can certainly send my kind regards his way if you wish.
-Eran |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2137
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:17:00 -
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I will do so. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
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Corlus Ademinan
Molden Heath Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.02 03:47:00 -
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Perhaps I too heavily relied on an emotional plea in this situation and did not fully examine the practical and logical approach. Changing the entire makeup of half the alliances seen in the cluster may have been starting to boldly. Baby steps as they say might be the better choice. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1837
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Posted - 2013.10.02 06:51:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Eran Mintor wrote:Where's John Revenent when you need him. Eran Mintor wrote: Haven't seen John for some time but I'm sure he's still around. Taish+ì Revenent is currently occupied with our Syndicate campaigns. He has neither the time nor inclination to get involved in Cal-Matari relations. That ship has long since sailed. If you'd like to arrange a meeting with the Taish+ì on some other subject more relevant to our operations, such as direct trade, please have your proposal in written form sent to my inbox for review.
It is very COLD in SPACE. |
Erica Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration
639
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Posted - 2013.10.03 05:17:00 -
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Well I do admit to often finding Brutor men somewhat attractive, contrast and all that, you know. Just quietly. But beyond that I am doubtful a union between our cultures would bring many benefits.
While I'm not that educated in politics I'm sure there's many legit reasons why we in the State find ourselves somewhat higher on the evolutionary chain that the Minmatar and I don't think we should mess that up by trying to play Bob.
In any event I'm happy in my corporation and generally detest known space and it's politics, so can't contribute to your efforts, but I do wish you luck in your endeavour, purely in the spirit of mutual capsuleerism. ^_^ |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2143
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Posted - 2013.10.03 06:08:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote: It is very COLD in SPACE.
Actually, space is not cold at all.
Hot and cold are common generalizations for temperature, which is a property of matter. Space is the absence of matter. It has no temperature. This also translates to there being no heat loss by convection or conduction in space, which is commonly what's regarded as "cold", the loss of heat by contact with matter of a lower temperature (often water, air, or an object).
Radiating heat, the other method of experiencing 'cold' is also a very slow process in space without the aid of technology. In fact, depending on where you are in relation to the star, perhaps in the habitable zone, you may even be quite comfortable for a while due to incoming radiated heat from said star... at least until you die from a heat stroke for literally being out in the sunlight too long. Or, you may burn up if you're much closer, or very slowly freeze to death if you're farther away.
I suppose you weren't talking about any of this at all, and I am in fact a giant buzzkill who's probably had too much tea tonight. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
161
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Posted - 2013.10.03 07:22:00 -
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I was going to say something inappropriate (jokingly of course) but I will refrain out of respect for you, Ms. Oniseki. I wouldn't say you're a buzzkill, though.
-Eran |
Etienne Saissore
Reclamation Technologies
28
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Posted - 2013.10.03 11:17:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote: Actually, space is not cold at all.
Hot and cold are common generalizations for temperature, which is a property of matter. Space is the absence of matter. It has no temperature. This also translates to there being no heat loss by convection or conduction in space, which is commonly what's regarded as "cold", the loss of heat by contact with matter of a lower temperature (often water, air, or an object).
Please contact us if you are interested in buying some thermodynamics books at very good price. |
Cain Aloga
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:54:00 -
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I have long speculated that our two cultures, while different, share enough similarities between the two that an alliance, or at the very least mutual cooperation could not only be possible, but also could in fact be very beneficiary. It is a very well known fact the the State enjoy some of the most advanced technology in the cluster, which would greatly benefit the Republic, and I would argue that the Republic offers unique economic opportunities for the State in return.
This of course entirely speculative.
On the other hand, while however much I would desire a form of cooperation between the State and the Republic, I stand firmly opposed to the possibilities of a fully developed alliance between the two.
I support this initiative to improve relations, however I would be weary of gaining too much success. |
Andreus Ixiris
Duty. The Cursed Few
3431
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:34:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Actually, space is not cold at all.
Hot and cold are common generalizations for temperature, which is a property of matter. Space is the absence of matter. It has no temperature. This also translates to there being no heat loss by convection or conduction in space, which is commonly what's regarded as "cold", the loss of heat by contact with matter of a lower temperature (often water, air, or an object).
Radiating heat, the other method of experiencing 'cold' is also a very slow process in space without the aid of technology. In fact, depending on where you are in relation to the star, perhaps in the habitable zone, you may even be quite comfortable for a while due to incoming radiated heat from said star... at least until you die from a heat stroke for literally being out in the sunlight too long. Or, you may burn up if you're much closer, or very slowly freeze to death if you're farther away.
I suppose you weren't talking about any of this at all, and I am in fact a giant buzzkill who's probably had too much tea tonight. Oh, thank the gods! My shipment of pedantry arrived just in time! Mane 614
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2167
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:13:00 -
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Well come and get it. It's clogging up everything else in my workspace! Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
289
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Posted - 2013.10.07 22:43:00 -
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This again. Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of-áK+îKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation. Quinzel's perspective has been shaped by her first-hand experiences with the State's varying corporate cultures.-á |
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