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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
136
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:55:00 -
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alas, my time as a pos owner may come to an early end.
My low sec pos will likely be destroyed, a risk I knew I was taking although I did think that I would be asked for a protectin payment before hostilities commenced.
I do not have any expensive blue prints in the pos.
I did put a few too many invention related datacores etc in the labs.
Will the attackers be able to get those materials?
If they cannot get them, I might leave them ... else I will trash them now. |
Nina Mink
Mink Industries
4
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:30:00 -
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If i'm correct structures drop items the same way ships drop items when destroyed. But don't shoot me if i'm wrong. GÇ£A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once. It seems to me most strange that men should fear, seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come.GÇ¥ |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2117
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:30:00 -
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If you had your BPO in the labs, then they can drop. If they were in a station, they will return there.
If you know it is doomed, and it isn't reinforced yet, go ahead and cancel jobs and unanchor labs.
If it is reinforced already, there is nothing you can do except wait. After reinforcement, you still can't do anything until the shield reaches 50%. |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
136
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:11:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:If you had your BPO in the labs, then they can drop. If they were in a station, they will return there.
If you know it is doomed, and it isn't reinforced yet, go ahead and cancel jobs and unanchor labs.
If it is reinforced already, there is nothing you can do except wait. After reinforcement, you still can't do anything until the shield reaches 50%.
Thanks, Yes, I did get all of my blueprints back as I did have them in station (thanks to tutorials and advice I read here months ago)
I trashed a few hundred million in datacores UGH : ( but, lol that was my fault there was no reason to have them there, very especially so after I lost interest in the invention that was using them !
I didn't quite understand that I would have no access to hangars after it got reinforced
I have to say that the interface was very unclear to me, but I wasn't looking at the right places either.
I kept trying to cancel the research along the way at different shield points and after the shiled went down but, I couldn't target the shield.. and the information about the shield in the Manage Pos windows was confusing.
Still, none of that would have made any difference.....
I have no bad feelings.... the POS was a loser for me.. I was actively considering taking it down altogether. Selling BPCs and BPO's is no fun at all for me.. I'm glad I did it for a few months though, and tried invention etc. What I learned will defintiely help me as a trader....I have at least half a clue of what the player time inputs are. |
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists Intergalactic Conservation Movement
104
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Posted - 2013.10.02 03:06:00 -
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Diomedes Calypso wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:If you had your BPO in the labs, then they can drop. If they were in a station, they will return there.
If you know it is doomed, and it isn't reinforced yet, go ahead and cancel jobs and unanchor labs.
If it is reinforced already, there is nothing you can do except wait. After reinforcement, you still can't do anything until the shield reaches 50%. Thanks, Yes, I did get all of my blueprints back as I did have them in station (thanks to tutorials and advice I read here months ago) I trashed a few hundred million in datacores UGH : ( but, lol that was my fault there was no reason to have them there, very especially so after I lost interest in the invention that was using them ! I didn't quite understand that I would have no access to hangars after it got reinforced I have to say that the interface was very unclear to me, but I wasn't looking at the right places either. I kept trying to cancel the research along the way at different shield points and after the shiled went down but, I couldn't target the shield.. and the information about the shield in the Manage Pos windows was confusing. Still, none of that would have made any difference..... I have no bad feelings.... the POS was a loser for me.. I was actively considering taking it down altogether. Selling BPCs and BPO's is no fun at all for me.. I'm glad I did it for a few months though, and tried invention etc. What I learned will defintiely help me as a trader....I have at least half a clue of what the player time inputs are.
For Cooking BPOs and Invention it is easier to just do it in high sec. The standing grind can be a pain in the butt, however here are some ways to speed up the process.
Sisters Epic Arc https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Blood-Stained_Stars Nice standing bonus at no cost to any other faction
Data Center Missions http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Data_Centers Buy tags, go to agent, receive standing.
The Epic arc can be done once every 90 days, but the data center missions are one time use. So it would be wise to have social trained to level 5 before attempting them.
Do both of these and the last bit of standing will not take you very long.
Lastly you can just buy a corporation with standing. It all depends on how you value your time.
Good Luck |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
137
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Posted - 2013.10.02 18:25:00 -
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Sir SmashAlot wrote:Diomedes Calypso wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:If you had your BPO in the labs, then they can drop. If they were in a station, they will return there.
If you know it is doomed, and it isn't reinforced yet, go ahead and cancel jobs and unanchor labs.
If it is reinforced already, there is nothing you can do except wait. After reinforcement, you still can't do anything until the shield reaches 50%. Thanks, Yes, I did get all of my blueprints back as I did have them in station (thanks to tutorials and advice I read here months ago) I trashed a few hundred million in datacores UGH : ( but, lol that was my fault there was no reason to have them there, very especially so after I lost interest in the invention that was using them ! I didn't quite understand that I would have no access to hangars after it got reinforced I have to say that the interface was very unclear to me, but I wasn't looking at the right places either. I kept trying to cancel the research along the way at different shield points and after the shiled went down but, I couldn't target the shield.. and the information about the shield in the Manage Pos windows was confusing. Still, none of that would have made any difference..... I have no bad feelings.... the POS was a loser for me.. I was actively considering taking it down altogether. Selling BPCs and BPO's is no fun at all for me.. I'm glad I did it for a few months though, and tried invention etc. What I learned will defintiely help me as a trader....I have at least half a clue of what the player time inputs are. For Cooking BPOs and Invention it is easier to just do it in high sec. The standing grind can be a pain in the butt, however here are some ways to speed up the process. Sisters Epic Arc https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Blood-Stained_StarsNice standing bonus at no cost to any other faction Data Center Missions http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Data_CentersBuy tags, go to agent, receive standing. The Epic arc can be done once every 90 days, but the data center missions are one time use. So it would be wise to have social trained to level 5 before attempting them. Do both of these and the last bit of standing will not take you very long. Lastly you can just buy a corporation with standing. It all depends on how you value your time. Good Luck
Yes, should I do it again, that will be my approach. I actually have a few characters with adequate standing in a few factions but not in the region I preferred.
It was nice to have a station at the same moon with all the free manufacturing spots and decent enough PI. A single base of operations seemed time efficient -- lol I guess the mobile labs and sensor dampeners were worth the time of a corp bashing an online medium tower. |
Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
5
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Posted - 2013.10.02 19:33:00 -
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Diomedes Calypso wrote:
Yes, should I do it again, that will be my approach. I actually have a few characters with adequate standing in a few factions but not in the region I preferred.
It was nice to have a station at the same moon with all the free manufacturing spots and decent enough PI. A single base of operations seemed time efficient -- lol I guess the mobile labs and sensor dampeners were worth the time of a corp bashing an online medium tower.
Medium tower doesn't take long to knock over. Large all the way. Yeah they cost more to maintain, but they can run quite a bit of R&D and still leave enough room for defenses to make the risk not equal to the potential reward.
As far as the rest of your experience, yeah, once it hits reinforce, you can't touch anything at all. ship maintenance arrays no longer drop anything, but everything else does. Towers don't drop anything themselves though. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2118
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Posted - 2013.10.02 22:37:00 -
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Katherine Raven wrote:As far as the rest of your experience, yeah, once it hits reinforce, you can't touch anything at all. ship maintenance arrays no longer drop anything, but everything else does. Of course one can empty a Ship Maintenance Array while reinforced, as they don't require any CPU. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1156
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Posted - 2013.10.02 22:52:00 -
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One can also empty silos, as they can be managed while offline. |
Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
233
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Posted - 2013.10.03 20:31:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:One can also empty silos, as they can be managed while offline.
hmm, did not know this. |
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
2669
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:25:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Katherine Raven wrote:As far as the rest of your experience, yeah, once it hits reinforce, you can't touch anything at all. ship maintenance arrays no longer drop anything, but everything else does. Of course one can empty a Ship Maintenance Array while reinforced, as they don't require any CPU.
While SMA don't drop anything at the moment (this was broken two expansions ago), SMA wrecks are listed in the Sisi Feature List for the Rubicon Expansion... Hopefully they will drop stuff soon(tm) |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
137
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Posted - 2013.10.04 19:22:00 -
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I did have the good sense to empty my fuel bay of 30 million in fuel blocks.
I was surprised that I couldn't remove the extra manufacturing materials.
I did screw up with one of my blueprints.. the most expensive one unfortunately (and improved battlecruiser blueprint) which I had placed in the POS for copying for some odd reason...
.... was there some issue with needing materials for copying certain blue prints and needing the materials in the hangar of the research lab? (I might have thought that meant the blueprint needed to be there too)
They were able to get that one blue print out.
It was interesting that I cold choose "trash it" with all the other materials, but because I could not cancel the Battlecruiser copy process, I could not access it to trash it. |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
137
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Posted - 2013.10.04 19:27:00 -
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I understand the concept that "offline" means un-accessable, but ... if it's offline, I'd think there would be an ablity to unachor it?
But, it is all about game play and the reason the "reinforced mode" exists is to give players a chance to fight to defend, not to give a warning to let people take all their valubles and run away without a loss..... ..... so I understand the choice of dynamics. .... and I'm sorry I didn't think more vigorously about limiting my losses
After the first month of the corps in system leaving me alone, I got complacent.
Breeding that complacency before taking the tower might have been their plan all along. |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1483
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:35:00 -
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Take an sb and see if you can at least get some enjoyment off of your pos death
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
137
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Posted - 2013.10.05 00:32:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Take an sb and see if you can at least get some enjoyment off of your pos death
It was in low -sec but !
I lit a handful of cyno's and I provided local with lots of talk about my bat-phone,, and how, they'd jump in next cyno because they had been busy helping Spiderman and all that....
griefing them by lowering their sec status with suicide noob ships didn't work.. the same -10 guy kept poping my alts over and over.
3 hours later and I would have had a fleet of pirates on them.. wrong time for the people I know.
I had my stront set at 18 hours which I figured would pose the maximum inconvenience for most as well as being the right time if someone tried near downtime. I don't think I was playing the night they reinforced the tower.
Would I have been able to grab the stuff out of the POS as they were shooting it but before it became reinforced?
That was a big mistake there if so... blame DOTA 2 |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2126
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Posted - 2013.10.06 01:28:00 -
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Iosue wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:One can also empty silos, as they can be managed while offline. hmm, did not know this. Sorry, silos cannot be accessed when reinforced. CCP already thought of this. |
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