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Vanya Thon
Caldari Institute of Technology
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Posted - 2013.10.02 11:37:00 -
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I have searched the forums for a few answers to using the Hanger filter, and had to experiment on my own. In my searching I found several people who had the same problem I had, but couldn't find any one with a solution.
I fell in love with the filter when i saw i could filter between modules for High/Med/Low/Rig slots. Ever since then i been making new filters for just about everything, to the extent that I don't even use containers any more for general storage.
The one thing that i couldn't make a filter for was to just see BPCs. I made one for BPOs that didn't have copys, but couldnt get just copys. The reason why I wanted this is because i do alot of invention, and normally i just run copy runs on an alt for a item that i think will be profitable later.
Any ways, I figured out one solution. But it shows your copys AND any unpacked BPOs (the ones with a little number, that can be sold on market) It works great for me, now I have no reason to use station containers. I can always search ALL of my assets and find what i am looking for with out looking at contents of containers and i can remote build/research/copy because all my stuff is on hanger floor. So instead of showing you, i just screen captured it in hopes it would help others.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1310/BPC_filter.png (i dont know how to post the image here)
There are probably a few other ways to do it, but not many i talked to even use the filter. I suggest that people at least look at the High/Med/low filters. I am surprised i haven't seen more posts on this subject. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.10.02 14:22:00 -
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I can't really help. But honestly, it's a really really really good idea to keep your unpackaged and researched BPO's in a separate 'physical' container from everything else.
This is from 3 1/2 years of experience with some hard learned lessons along the way. People who feel safer with a gun than with guaranteed medical insurance don't yet have a fully adult concept of scary.-á -William Gibson |
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
137
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Posted - 2013.10.02 15:50:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I can't really help. But honestly, it's a really really really good idea to keep your unpackaged and researched BPO's in a separate 'physical' container from everything else.
This is from 3 1/2 years of experience with some hard learned lessons along the way. Why ? Blog |-áTutorials | Youtube "I donGÇÖt know everything, I just know what I know." |
Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:49:00 -
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Invictra Atreides wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I can't really help. But honestly, it's a really really really good idea to keep your unpackaged and researched BPO's in a separate 'physical' container from everything else.
This is from 3 1/2 years of experience with some hard learned lessons along the way. Why ? So you don't accidentally the BPOs.
Can be a very, very expensive mistake. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
51572
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Posted - 2013.10.02 18:45:00 -
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Invictra Atreides wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I can't really help. But honestly, it's a really really really good idea to keep your unpackaged and researched BPO's in a separate 'physical' container from everything else.
This is from 3 1/2 years of experience with some hard learned lessons along the way. Why ?
You seriously asked for realzzzzz ? People who feel safer with a gun than with guaranteed medical insurance don't yet have a fully adult concept of scary.-á -William Gibson |
Vanya Thon
Caldari Institute of Technology
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Posted - 2013.10.02 21:59:00 -
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Keeping them in a container kind of defeats the purpose for me. I do a lot of remote manufacturing and researching. So having the BPO/BPCs in containers, whether in corp or personal hanger will deny me that ability. I understand why people are concerned with the "ops" factor, reprocessing a deadspace mod when you meant to repackaged it. Or reprocessing a bunch of T1 modals forgetting you had some t2 or better in the batch. But with my filtering, that will never happen. Obviously you will never processes your whole hanger, or try to processes the 5 deadspace mods instead of the 300 t1/t2 you have in hanger. I made filters to separate meta 4 items so i can ship them to jita to sell, a filter for meta 1-3 so i can reprocess. I have a T2/faction/deadspace filter to sort out stuff needing special attention.
I think it is MORE likly that some one will make mistakes if NOT using filters. If i have a my reprocess filter on, it will NEVER show me a deadspace mod to reprocess it. While trying to sort everything in a hanger using containers is a real pain, since if you have a lot of stuff (i know many people who do) and they are all divided in to containers, well, ever time you want something you have to search, ever time you want to put something in your hanger you have to drop it in the CORRECT container.
I guess, I am trying to just bring to light the great benefits of the filters and also sharing a filter that was difficult to figure out.
If you don't want to use them, that's.... well, my gain. (you will eventually make a mistake) |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
51735
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Posted - 2013.10.02 22:55:00 -
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Vanya Thon wrote:Keeping them in a container kind of defeats the purpose for me.
I think it is MORE likly that some one will make mistakes if NOT using filters.
I guess, I am trying to just bring to light the great benefits of the filters and also sharing a filter that was difficult to figure out.
If you don't want to use them, that's.... well, my gain. (you will eventually make a mistake)
Would you rather have your purpose 'defeated' and altered a bit or do you want to risk losing possibly hundreds of millions of ISK in a flash ? Convenience, or security ?
Also, you are being a little bit snarky and arrogant.
The game functioned just fine for 8 years without any kind of filtering whatsoever.
But go ahead and do what you want.
After all, I'm not young enough anymore to know everything. People who feel safer with a gun than with guaranteed medical insurance don't yet have a fully adult concept of scary.-á -William Gibson |
Vanya Thon
Caldari Institute of Technology
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Posted - 2013.10.02 23:09:00 -
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I am sorry if I came off as arrogant, there was no intention of that.
But you failed to quote my reasoning.
I have been doing indy/research for almost 2 years and I hated using containers from day 1. While I have never made a mistake with my bpos and losing them, i have contracted wrong the containers for courier and also spent too much of my time flying all over the region just to pull out materials for production.
I just thought sharing this info might help others who hate containers as much as I do, or at least give them another option.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
51756
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Posted - 2013.10.03 01:10:00 -
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I have a box for Mods and other ship accessories, one for ammo and mining crystals, one for extra POS parts, one for manufacturing materials and BPCs, a small container for the BPOs, and a container for Expensive Bling (Bling mods, clothes, fireworks, rare items, etc.) All clearly labeled.
What so confusing about that and how does filtering claim to be 'safer' and easier ? It's great for finding stuff, but that's about it. People who feel safer with a gun than with guaranteed medical insurance don't yet have a fully adult concept of scary.-á -William Gibson |
Termy Rockling
EVE University Ivy League
80
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Posted - 2013.10.03 02:24:00 -
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Originals have (usually) value, copies are "worthless". So just add value > 0 for originals and value = 0 for copies, thats atleast how i think i did it. |
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Vanya Thon
Caldari Institute of Technology
1
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Posted - 2013.10.03 04:51:00 -
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Thats what i originally thought, and had no luck, it just filters out all BPOs and BPCs. I have found other posts saying that that didn't work also. I believe BPCs have literately no value, meaning its not "0" or "1" there for trying to sort by value will always filter out the BPCs since no statement about their value is true.
In programming there is Boolean logic, it is code that returns a true or false. In the case of BPC value, it prob gets no return since the field is empty.
oh well....
filter all non-blueprints volume less then 0.1 assembled is false
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Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1624
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:29:00 -
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Vanya Thon wrote:Keeping them in a container kind of defeats the purpose for me. I do a lot of remote manufacturing and researching. So having the BPO/BPCs in containers, whether in corp or personal hanger will deny me that ability. I understand why people are concerned with the "ops" factor, reprocessing a deadspace mod when you meant to repackaged it. Or reprocessing a bunch of T1 modals forgetting you had some t2 or better in the batch. But with my filtering, that will never happen. Obviously you will never processes your whole hanger, or try to processes the 5 deadspace mods instead of the 300 t1/t2 you have in hanger. I made filters to separate meta 4 items so i can ship them to jita to sell, a filter for meta 1-3 so i can reprocess. I have a T2/faction/deadspace filter to sort out stuff needing special attention.
I think it is MORE likly that some one will make mistakes if NOT using filters. If i have a my reprocess filter on, it will NEVER show me a deadspace mod to reprocess it. While trying to sort everything in a hanger using containers is a real pain, since if you have a lot of stuff (i know many people who do) and they are all divided in to containers, well, ever time you want something you have to search, ever time you want to put something in your hanger you have to drop it in the CORRECT container.
I guess, I am trying to just bring to light the great benefits of the filters and also sharing a filter that was difficult to figure out.
hint -- that "BPO Container" can be a clearly labelled and not used for anything else corp hangar (assuming you're the CEO of the corp).
Though, you eventually get to a point where your BPO collection is worth several tens of billions of ISK. Once you've gotten there you're not necessarily using all of them all the time (I know I don't ... but if someone can keep several hundred BPOs churning at once and profiting from them, more power to them). The unused ones (for me anyway) get safely stored out of "general circulation" in an otherwise empty alt's hangar.
Vanya Thon wrote:If you don't want to use them, that's.... well, my gain. (you will eventually make a mistake)
It's far more likely CCP will accidentally the filtering one patch, and even though you think you have stuff filtered out, you'll trash your entire hangar. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2120
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Posted - 2013.10.03 14:23:00 -
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Vanya Thon wrote:The one thing that i couldn't make a filter for was to just see BPCs. I made one for BPOs that didn't have copys, but couldnt get just copys. The reason why I wanted this is because i do alot of invention, and normally i just run copy runs on an alt for a item that i think will be profitable later. Erm... maybe I'm missing something.
I put all the BPO and BPC into the same hangar and then use: Science & Industry -> Corp Blueprints -> Type: Originals / Copies
Can enter a filter too to select one specific BPO / BPC. |
Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1627
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Posted - 2013.10.03 14:43:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Vanya Thon wrote:The one thing that i couldn't make a filter for was to just see BPCs. I made one for BPOs that didn't have copys, but couldnt get just copys. The reason why I wanted this is because i do alot of invention, and normally i just run copy runs on an alt for a item that i think will be profitable later. Erm... maybe I'm missing something. I put all the BPO and BPC into the same hangar and then use: Science & Industry -> Corp Blueprints -> Type: Originals / Copies Can enter a filter too to select one specific BPO / BPC.
you are -- OP is talking about the hangar filters. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2121
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Posted - 2013.10.03 17:19:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Vanya Thon wrote:The one thing that i couldn't make a filter for was to just see BPCs. I made one for BPOs that didn't have copys, but couldnt get just copys. The reason why I wanted this is because i do alot of invention, and normally i just run copy runs on an alt for a item that i think will be profitable later. Erm... maybe I'm missing something. you are -- OP is talking about the hangar filters. Well that was my point. You don't really need to physically separate them.
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Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1637
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:41:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote: Well that was my point. You don't really need to physically separate them.
You know that, I know that, Krixtal knows that, OP apparently wants to anyway
Although, I do find it easier to use the hangar filters when I'm doing things with BPC, because I'm usually going for something specific and ~holy wall of BPOs batman!~ One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
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