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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.10.03 23:17:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:So you think CCP will just release them in the LP store for 0 isk and nothing for trade? That wouldn't be very smart. You ever head of a joke? There are these things called smilies that denote sarcasm, if only I'd used one....oh wait. Since when were smiles for the exclusive use of sarcasm?
When did I use the word exclusive?
Quote: Edit: Funny enough though I interpreted the smile as sarcastic approval of the anticipated, though exaggerated, low price of the ships based on your prior statements.
Try not to read too much into things, I just thought it was a note worthy set of occurances (the LP gathering orgy in Osmon and seeing what happens when CCP makes a "special faction" type ship available in a high sec accessible LP store as I surmise they are). |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1576
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Posted - 2013.10.03 23:17:00 -
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i'll explain this slowly, then, just for you, kittybear
every time you go to do a mission. it doesn't matter how many missions are being done, it doesn't matter how many missions you've done, it doesn't matter if you've just done a mission, you get a mission. there is no limit to the amount of missions that can be done in an hour save the number of pilots doing missions and how fast they do them. there is no limit to the number of pilots than can be sustained by a single agent.
when you go looking for a complex or anom. they only spawn a certain number after a certain amount of time after they're finished. the anoms/plex/rats are limited by the timer and the rng and only a certain amount can possibly be spawned in a day. there's a maximum number of pilots that can be sustained by anoms, belts or rats. |
Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.10.03 23:24:00 -
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Jenn... it kinda helps that the ONLY sisters lvl 4 security mission officer in high sec is in Osmon |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1576
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Posted - 2013.10.03 23:31:00 -
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Fey Ivory wrote:Jenn... it kinda helps that the ONLY sisters lvl 4 security mission officer in high sec is in Osmon thanks for informing us |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1713
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:57:00 -
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Fey Ivory wrote:Jenn... it kinda helps that the ONLY sisters lvl 4 security mission officer in high sec is in Osmon
This should inform CCP that there should be no level 4 security agent for SoE in high sec. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1222
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Posted - 2013.10.04 06:43:00 -
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Null tears best tears |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
886
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Posted - 2013.10.04 07:43:00 -
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I love the way supply and demand in Eve works.
Thank you to all the buttercups farming SOE LP.
Thank you much. Eve is Real |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
11947
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Posted - 2013.10.04 07:43:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Thanks for sharing that, Jenn, that is indeed interesting.
hmm...
I used to live close to Osmon......Guristas territory...
hmmm.... So the mission runners will most likely use shield tanked ships with the usual 2 kinetic/1 thermal hardener setup...
...
that would leave them at 0% EM resist....
.. don't mind me, just thinking aloud....
SoE missions are heavily tilted to Angels, Serps and Bloods, with frequent Amarr/Caldari faction rat missions. There are some Guristas missions, but much fewer than the normal Caldari agent spread.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
11947
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Posted - 2013.10.04 07:46:00 -
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PS I would be most grateful if you could gank as many missioners in Osmon as possible.
This would reduce my competition
1 Kings 12:11
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
240
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Posted - 2013.10.04 08:02:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:When I think Humanitarian Aid group, I generally don't tend to think Covert ops cloaked full flight of bonused sentries and armor resist bonuses.... but hey, maybe the Red Cross will start storming beaches with their own amphibious assault vehicles armed with grenade launchers and a full flight of preditors.
Im going to help you to death dammit. SoE ain't the kindly sister act kind of nuns, they are the twisted catholic school nuns who give you a ruler over the knukles for blaspheming
OMG THAT IS SO HOT
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
530
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Posted - 2013.10.04 08:13:00 -
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You think you can't get angel, gurista, sansha and whatnot with LP.....LOL |
baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:14:00 -
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Steijn wrote:the number of npc kills just make it look like a standard nullsec botting system.
The vast bulk of bots are in high sec because afk cloakers cant get them there. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
11948
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:24:00 -
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Onictus wrote:You think you can't get angel, gurista, sansha and whatnot with LP.....LOL
In hi-sec?
How?
1 Kings 12:11
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wowyouareacow
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
14
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:37:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:When I think Humanitarian Aid group, I generally don't tend to think Covert ops cloaked full flight of bonused sentries and armor resist bonuses.... but hey, maybe the Red Cross will start storming beaches with their own amphibious assault vehicles armed with grenade launchers and a full flight of preditors.
Im going to help you to death dammit.
Except my good friend, sometimes the best way to defeat bad guys with weapons is good guys with weapons. |
ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve Filthy Bastards
1517
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:46:00 -
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Wouldn't it be funny in an Incursion appeared there? You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
888
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Posted - 2013.10.04 10:23:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:i'll explain this slowly, then, just for you, kittybear
every time you go to do a mission. it doesn't matter how many missions are being done, it doesn't matter how many missions you've done, it doesn't matter if you've just done a mission, you get a mission. there is no limit to the amount of missions that can be done in an hour save the number of pilots doing missions and how fast they do them. there is no limit to the number of pilots than can be sustained by a single agent.
when you go looking for a complex or anom. they only spawn a certain number after a certain amount of time after they're finished. the anoms/plex/rats are limited by the timer and the rng and only a certain amount can possibly be spawned in a day. there's a maximum number of pilots that can be sustained by anoms, belts or rats.
so your saying that they have ALL been completed and NEVER spawn anywhere anymore because that's what LIMITED means
but that's not true is it. they will respawn again, and again, and again, and again, and again that's what UNLIMITED means
ergo nulsec belt rats, and nulsec & fw complex's are unlimited
and you called me a dummy ????? pot/kettle |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
531
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:43:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Onictus wrote:You think you can't get angel, gurista, sansha and whatnot with LP.....LOL In hi-sec? How?
Who said anything about hi sec
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Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1637
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:21:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Thanks for sharing that, Jenn, that is indeed interesting.
hmm...
I used to live close to Osmon......Guristas territory...
hmmm.... So the mission runners will most likely use shield tanked ships with the usual 2 kinetic/1 thermal hardener setup...
...
that would leave them at 0% EM resist....
.. don't mind me, just thinking aloud....
Delivery of the munitions is confirmed. The tracking number will be sent in a subsequent notice One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2979
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:27:00 -
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Onictus wrote:You think you can't get angel, gurista, sansha and whatnot with LP.....LOL
erm, what?
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2979
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:28:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:Wouldn't it be funny in an Incursion appeared there?
omg dude, you are evil. That would be hilarious.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2979
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:29:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Malcanis wrote:Onictus wrote:You think you can't get angel, gurista, sansha and whatnot with LP.....LOL In hi-sec? How? Who said anything about hi sec
ok, then just WTF are you talking about then? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
11952
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:36:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Malcanis wrote:Onictus wrote:You think you can't get angel, gurista, sansha and whatnot with LP.....LOL In hi-sec? How? Who said anything about hi sec
The post you replied to
"LOL"
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
11952
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:39:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:i'll explain this slowly, then, just for you, kittybear
every time you go to do a mission. it doesn't matter how many missions are being done, it doesn't matter how many missions you've done, it doesn't matter if you've just done a mission, you get a mission. there is no limit to the amount of missions that can be done in an hour save the number of pilots doing missions and how fast they do them. there is no limit to the number of pilots than can be sustained by a single agent.
when you go looking for a complex or anom. they only spawn a certain number after a certain amount of time after they're finished. the anoms/plex/rats are limited by the timer and the rng and only a certain amount can possibly be spawned in a day. there's a maximum number of pilots that can be sustained by anoms, belts or rats. so your saying that they have ALL been completed and NEVER spawn anywhere anymore because that's what LIMITED means but that's not true is it. they will respawn again, and again, and again, and again, and again that's what UNLIMITED means ergo nulsec belt rats, and nulsec & fw complex's are unlimited and you called me a dummy ????? pot/kettle
No, that's not what "limited" means.
If only 'n' plex spawn per day, then that's a limit in the most literal, accepted every day sense of the word. A limit of n per day.
It does mean that there's no upper limit on the accumulative number of drops, but there most definitely is a limit on the rate.
1 Kings 12:11
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Kurt Saken
State War Academy Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2013.10.04 13:52:00 -
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We are fighting the good fight against Kruul. |
March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
792
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:05:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: No, that's not what "limited" means.
If only 'n' plex spawn per day, then that's a limit in the most literal, accepted every day sense of the word. A limit of n per day.
It does mean that there's no upper limit on the accumulative number of drops, but there most definitely is a limit on the rate.
ok.
- 1 person can accept 1 mission at a time. This amount is limited by Eve Online population. - 1 person can finish 1 mission in non-zero time. So rate of accepting new missions is limited by mission completion time.
Multiply of 2 limited values is limited.
Result: amount of missions given by 1 agent is limited. |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
528
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:10:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:so your saying that they have ALL been completed and NEVER spawn anywhere anymore because that's what LIMITED means
but that's not true is it. they will respawn again, and again, and again, and again, and again that's what UNLIMITED means
ergo nulsec belt rats, and nulsec & fw complex's are unlimited
and you called me a dummy ????? pot/kettle Then we would call everything unlimited in EVE except T2 BPOs, limited issue ships and the like. The point is, belts and anoms are "limited" because their amount do not scale with number of people running them. There's so much ore, ISK and loot belt can generate per day, no matter how much people live in that system. Streams of ISK, LP and loot generated by agents, on the other hand, is limited only by amount of toons server node which has that system assigned to it can handle before crumbling into TiDi, traffic control and the like.
It's more about goods generation rate being limited or unlimited rather than absolute amount on infinite timeframe. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1578
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:21:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Malcanis wrote: No, that's not what "limited" means.
If only 'n' plex spawn per day, then that's a limit in the most literal, accepted every day sense of the word. A limit of n per day.
It does mean that there's no upper limit on the accumulative number of drops, but there most definitely is a limit on the rate.
ok. - 1 person can accept 1 mission at a time. This amount is limited by Eve Online population. - 1 person can finish 1 mission in non-zero time. So rate of accepting new missions is limited by mission completion time. Multiply of 2 limited values is limited. Result: amount of missions given by 1 agent is limited. the limit on the number of people who desire to pve anoms/missions is not relevant
neither is the number of anoms that could possibly be run by the time of the heat death of the universe, kittybear |
Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
80
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:31:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
Yea, I propose CCP put some Angel agents in Empire, I could use a 100 mil isk Machariel or 12 lol.
Do you know the difference between a humanitarian organization and a drug cartel?
There is a reason there are Sisters of Eve and other "fringe" group missions in highsec - it's because they belong there. The angels really don't.
Amnesty International has offices in New York and London etc.
Mexican drug cartels don't. Imiarr's Services: The Standing Correction Agency : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=41506 Imiarr Timshae's FREE 3rd Party and Collateral Holding Service : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3297432&#post3297432 |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
345
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:38:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:Sentamon wrote:Just another reason why unlimited of anything is bad. Ie unlimited missions from one agent.
but of course that wont apply to the unlimited nulsec belt rats, nul sec complexes, FW complexes, because they are 'special' cases right ....... all those examples are limited, dummy
Gotta love it when people make sarcastic statements about things they know nothing about
Two thumbs! Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
345
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:39:00 -
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Imiarr Timshae wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
Yea, I propose CCP put some Angel agents in Empire, I could use a 100 mil isk Machariel or 12 lol.
Do you know the difference between a humanitarian organization and a drug cartel? There is a reason there are Sisters of Eve and other "fringe" group missions in highsec - it's because they belong there. The angels really don't. Amnesty International has offices in New York and London etc. Mexican drug cartels don't.
But...then why do all these other 'good people groups' (because they base in hi-sec - wait I guess that makes hisec mercs good people too! nice spinoff!) have inifinite troubles with infinite amounts of the 'bad guys who don't deserve to be there'? Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
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