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Hank Bulger
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Posted - 2006.01.22 06:41:00 -
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whats better to NPC bloods in? and setup? thx
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.01.22 07:30:00 -
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5 x Dual 180mm IIs, 2 small nos
AB, Web, cap recharger
medium armor rep II, 1 Thermal Hardner, 1 energized thermic, 1 1600mm plate, cap relay
therm small drones
have at it.
Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
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zoturi
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Posted - 2006.01.22 08:30:00 -
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Vaga
5x 220mm 1x nos 1x mwd 1x gistii small booster 2x Large shield extender 3x gyro 2x PDS
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Helmut 314
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Posted - 2006.01.22 10:46:00 -
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Muninn, hands down.
5 x 425 II with Phased plasma 2 x rocketlauncher II with gremlins
10 MN AB II Webber Cap recharger
Medium rep II Gyro II 2 x Thermal hardener 1 x EM hardener
Chews up and tanks any Blood or Sansha spawn quite nicely. ___________________________________
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ViperVenom
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:11:00 -
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vaga:
5x 220mm II, nos AB, web, cap battery, cap rechargers Medium armor rep II,2 thermal hardner, 2 gyros.
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tenp1
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:20:00 -
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If you want close range go Vaga, if you want long range go Muninn, I'd go vaga mind you but both is the best option.
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Arctic Angel
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:34:00 -
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Having tried out both, I'd say Muninn.
a) it has one extra high slot (fit a heavy missile launcher for example) b) a bit more cap to start with c) it's a lot cheaper (70 mil compared to vaga for 140mil )
I basically had the same fittings for both and could very easily tank an officer spawn with 4 battleships.
5x220mm Vulcan II's 1x named heavy launcher 1x medium NOS named
10MN ab (or mwd) webifier (x5 or better) cap stuff, named or t2
1 med armor rep II 2x hardeners (rat specific) cap stuff or if cap holds fit a gyro II or 2
With the above setup you can tank a lot of bs's but cruisers hurt much more. Tactic is to hit them first (and fast) and then tank the battleships for as long as you want..
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Helmut 314 Muninn, hands down.
5 x 425 II with Phased plasma 2 x rocketlauncher II with gremlins
10 MN AB II Webber Cap recharger
Medium rep II Gyro II 2 x Thermal hardener 1 x EM hardener
Chews up and tanks any Blood or Sansha spawn quite nicely.
Why would you ever want more than one thermal hardener?
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Black 1
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Helmut 314 Muninn, hands down.
5 x 425 II with Phased plasma 2 x rocketlauncher II with gremlins
10 MN AB II Webber Cap recharger
Medium rep II Gyro II 2 x Thermal hardener 1 x EM hardener
Chews up and tanks any Blood or Sansha spawn quite nicely.
Why would you ever want more than one thermal hardener?
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or an EM hardener, ur base armor resist of a muninn is 92.5% u get like an xtra 3-4% with a 50% hardener? :P
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.01.22 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Black 1
Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Helmut 314 Muninn, hands down.
5 x 425 II with Phased plasma 2 x rocketlauncher II with gremlins
10 MN AB II Webber Cap recharger
Medium rep II Gyro II 2 x Thermal hardener 1 x EM hardener
Chews up and tanks any Blood or Sansha spawn quite nicely.
Why would you ever want more than one thermal hardener?
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or an EM hardener, ur base armor resist of a muninn is 92.5% u get like an xtra 3-4% with a 50% hardener? :P
it still means halving the damage
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.01.22 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Black 1
Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Helmut 314 Muninn, hands down.
5 x 425 II with Phased plasma 2 x rocketlauncher II with gremlins
10 MN AB II Webber Cap recharger
Medium rep II Gyro II 2 x Thermal hardener 1 x EM hardener
Chews up and tanks any Blood or Sansha spawn quite nicely.
Why would you ever want more than one thermal hardener?
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or an EM hardener, ur base armor resist of a muninn is 92.5% u get like an xtra 3-4% with a 50% hardener? :P
it still means halving the damage
Not really... you need to think in terms of raw dps vs raw tanking capability. Putting on anything beyond a single thermal hardener is a waste of lowslots vs bloods/sanshas.
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Hank Bulger
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Posted - 2006.01.22 12:57:00 -
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I use vaga with 425MM atm...eats ammo like crasy...
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zoturi
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Posted - 2006.01.22 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hank Bulger I use vaga with 425MM atm...eats ammo like crasy...
220mm
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Hank Bulger
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Posted - 2006.01.22 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: zoturi
Originally by: Hank Bulger I use vaga with 425MM atm...eats ammo like crasy...
220mm
220mm got even faster ROF
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zoturi
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Posted - 2006.01.22 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Hank Bulger
Originally by: zoturi
Originally by: Hank Bulger I use vaga with 425MM atm...eats ammo like crasy...
220mm
220mm got even faster ROF
but bigger clip
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Helmut 314
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Posted - 2006.01.22 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Helmut 314 Muninn, hands down.
5 x 425 II with Phased plasma 2 x rocketlauncher II with gremlins
10 MN AB II Webber Cap recharger
Medium rep II Gyro II 2 x Thermal hardener 1 x EM hardener
Chews up and tanks any Blood or Sansha spawn quite nicely.
Why would you ever want more than one thermal hardener?
Good question. The Muninn has excellent resists of course, but adding the second thermal hardener lets me manage my cap more easily. I use the rep on manual, only repairing now and then. Its a matter of taste I guess. The biggest spawn I have killed solo with this setup was a 3 x BS 6 x Frigate True Sansha Spawn. I had no problems tanking all of them until I could get in under the guns of the TS Tyrant.
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Lexor SLice
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Posted - 2006.01.22 16:06:00 -
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helmut is right, the munnin has the advantage of the resists on its side, and its still quite fast with an afterburner on it
425's, 2x assualt launchers
AB, web, 1x cap recharger, sensor booster
med rep II, corpum a-typer thermal membrane (with new tanking skills, this will be the only hardener you need) 1x800 plate 2x gyro II
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Originally by: O |
zoturi
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Posted - 2006.01.22 17:56:00 -
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FYI 425mms FIX?
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Lexor SLice
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Posted - 2006.01.22 20:20:00 -
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yeah, autocannons
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Originally by: O |
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