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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4707
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:31:00 -
[661] - Quote
Gotta love those people standing up for ccp
For your valuable contributions, have a (spawned item here) There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1331
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:31:00 -
[662] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:MeBiatch wrote:welll there is your logic problem you assume its a speculation object... well from ccp action its not... so stop thinking it is. So if CCP spawned every Goon a (special faction) titan that was 95% as efficient as a regular Titan but didn't refine into anything / the wreck can't be salvaged, then there's no issue there, right? Not sure if you're a dumb person trolling, or a very dumb person talking from the heart. actually i would not mind that at all... every goon stuck in a titan. you guys would quit out of boredom in a week. and 10 000 is different then 30... silly bee. 30 represented their whole 'corp' much like 10k represents us. Fair is fair. But since you're now agreeing that we should be given 10,000 titans rather than back down from your stupid position, we can safely assume nothing you say is of any value.
your alliance has 10 000 not your corp There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
213
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:32:00 -
[663] - Quote
Came expecting to see CCP digging. Left shellshocked after seeing this. |
Nobani
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:32:00 -
[664] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:help help help my purely vanity item is shooting missiles and jamming people help help this isn't meant to be please be stupid enough to actually pay 20 billion for one and undock from jita saying you will jam every one... please.
Wait, I thought they weren't worth anything because they only refined to 1 trit? Why would anyone pay 20b for one? |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1331
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:32:00 -
[665] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Gotta love those people standing up for ccp
For your valuable contributions, have a (spawned item here)
meh your anger is the only reward i need. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:32:00 -
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i don't get it there a fancy ship that's worse than its T1 variant, and refines for ****.......From my point of view its the silly and secret way they decided to go about it that is the problem and makes no sense
If they had just turned around and yelled it out that these great fan are being rewarded that would encourage people to make even better ones.
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Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:32:00 -
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Compare a titan to a battleship.. maybe next compare 30 frigates to 30 titans "IT"S THE SAME THING"
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Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:33:00 -
[668] - Quote
Nobani wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:help help help my purely vanity item is shooting missiles and jamming people help help this isn't meant to be please be stupid enough to actually pay 20 billion for one and undock from jita saying you will jam every one... please. Wait, I thought they weren't worth anything because they only refined to 1 trit? Why would anyone pay 20b for one?
BECAUSE THEY ARE MORONS |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1331
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:33:00 -
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Nobani wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:help help help my purely vanity item is shooting missiles and jamming people help help this isn't meant to be please be stupid enough to actually pay 20 billion for one and undock from jita saying you will jam every one... please. Wait, I thought they weren't worth anything because they only refined to 1 trit? Why would anyone pay 20b for one?
because people were under the false assumption that it was a Legacy item which it is not and were paying that much.
though now we know better and its not...
but goons keep yelling 20 billion 520 billion 647 quajillion!
as if saying number means anything. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Nobani
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
36
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:40:00 -
[670] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:Nobani wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:help help help my purely vanity item is shooting missiles and jamming people help help this isn't meant to be please be stupid enough to actually pay 20 billion for one and undock from jita saying you will jam every one... please. Wait, I thought they weren't worth anything because they only refined to 1 trit? Why would anyone pay 20b for one? because people were under the false assumption that it was a Legacy item which it is not and were paying that much. though now we know better and its not... but goons keep yelling 20 billion 520 billion 647 quajillion! as if saying number means anything.
Final definitive proof I am not Jonathan Swift. |
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
87
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:40:00 -
[671] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:The owner of the ship will not have any advantage over other players in the game by using the given item Pretty sure 20billion ISK being handed to you is 'an advantage' Try again? Please, read what I said: USING the item... with "using" as a key word.
Don't get me wrong, I am against favoritism and think that CCP should have handled this in a different way: Just like they have community spotlight which can as well be maliciously interpreted as an advantage to the entity being in the official spotlight (which, by the way no one sane has anything against), they could have started a public campaign of giving vanity painted Scorpions to entities described in the community spotlight.
That is the only error I see here - every prominent community member deserves the same treatment in an open manner: EveMon, EFT, Dotlan, EDK leaders, Chribba, EOH, EveHQ guys (if they are still in the game)... etc. and yes, including Somer. You'll note that many of those entities make ISK on what they provide as well, so that is not an issue in one specific case of Somer.
And just in case, no, I don't play or like lotteries for ISK or in RL for money, but I do see content provided to those who do play them.
Edit: just remembered some news sites... Whoever runs EVE News24 and The mittani as two primary news and column feed sources are in the prominent community group as well. How would your story be if website tech guys in Goonswarm got the same reward from CCP for running one of the two most informative news sites in EVE? I'm not sure why, but I have a feeling that you wouldn't react in this way. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2247
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:41:00 -
[672] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:Nobani wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:help help help my purely vanity item is shooting missiles and jamming people help help this isn't meant to be please be stupid enough to actually pay 20 billion for one and undock from jita saying you will jam every one... please. Wait, I thought they weren't worth anything because they only refined to 1 trit? Why would anyone pay 20b for one? because people were under the false assumption that it was a Legacy item which it is not and were paying that much. though now we know better and its not... but goons keep yelling 20 billion 520 billion 647 quajillion! as if saying number means anything.
Jesus wept .. you missed that laden-thick sarcasm again.
The entire Eve economy is based on supply and demand, so I honestly struggle to work out how you can't realise that nearly-unique collectables are worth something because of their limited supply.
Also: their current and future ISK value is almost completely irrelevant to the point - one which you are either failing to grasp due to an inability to do so, or are simply trolling.
I would be concerned for you if it turned out to be the former, yet it seems more and more likely with every message where you quote someone and demonstrate you haven't a clue what they're saying. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2247
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:45:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:The owner of the ship will not have any advantage over other players in the game by using the given item Pretty sure 20billion ISK being handed to you is 'an advantage' Try again? Please, read what I said: USING the item... with "using" as a key word. Don't get me wrong, I am against favoritism and think that CCP should have handled this in a different way: Just like they have community spotlight which can as well be maliciously interpreted as an advantage to the entity being in the official spotlight (which, by the way no one sane has anything against), they could have started a public campaign of giving vanity painted Scorpions to entities described in the community spotlight. That is the only error I see here - every prominent community member deserves the same treatment in an open manner: EveMon, EFT, Dotlan, EDK leaders, Chribba, EOH, EveHQ guys (if they are still in the game)... etc. and yes, including Somer. You'll note that many of those entities make ISK on what they provide as well, so that is not an issue in one specific case of Somer. And just in case, no, I don't play or like lotteries for ISK or in RL for money, but I do see content provided to those who do play them. Well, yes, I guess. No-one really cares what was given out but that
1) They were given to one group 2) Privately 3) With the CEO getting the impression he needed to keep it quiet
That they're the self-same items that kickstarted the Summer of rage is a kind of dramatic irony that only CCP are insensitive to, and therefore blunder into on a (now) weekly basis. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
eFart
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:47:00 -
[674] - Quote
cpp and homoblink did it right you guys burned a lotta isk in this shit |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4707
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:48:00 -
[675] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:1) They were given to one group 2) Privately 3) With the CEO getting the impression he needed to keep it quiet
That they're the self-same items that kickstarted the Summer of rage is a kind of dramatic irony that only CCP are insensitive to, and therefore blunder into on a (now) weekly basis. It's only because eve online platers are not good enough to accept such things There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
87
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:50:00 -
[676] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote: Well, yes, I guess. No-one really cares what was given out but that
1) They were given to one group 2) Privately 3) With the CEO getting the impression he needed to keep it quiet
Yes! Exactly... THAT is the real problem that should be rubbed all over CCP's noses, not the item itself or having the reward program. By all means the reward program can and should exist to drive the community and developers forward, but it MUST be public.
Khanh'rhh wrote: That they're the self-same items that kickstarted the Summer of rage is a kind of dramatic irony that only CCP are insensitive to, and therefore blunder into on a (now) weekly basis.
Well, not exactly... the summer of rage was started because of "Pay to win" items. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic |
A Research Alt
Perkone Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:50:00 -
[677] - Quote
The secrecy to which Somer aspired about the whole thing speaks volumes about its legitimacy. |
Odaka Narumi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:52:00 -
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Nobani wrote: Even if the final value of the Scorpions is 10k ISK it doesn't matter, since they can be sold NOW.
To be exact, many of them will have been sold before collectors/interested parties were aware there were another 30 on the market. With rare items the value drops with the number available by their reduction in rarity. Because of how this was done, with the gift being done in secret, the employees being told not to make it public, those which were sold before now were done so into a market that believed there were 80-90 or so, not 110-120 of them.
So by keeping it all secret, CCP ensured the resale value for Somer blink employees remained high and wasn't reduced by the public knowledge of their 'gifts'.
Fundamentally though, this is the same problem as them giving Somer blink unprecedented 'gifts' for them to auction off. While they could have just sold them, they still made hundreds of billion of isk in profit because of the increased visits to their site. So CCP essentially gave them prizes knowing that the end result would make Somer blink even more piles of isk because of their largesse. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
87
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:56:00 -
[679] - Quote
Odaka Narumi wrote:Nobani wrote: Even if the final value of the Scorpions is 10k ISK it doesn't matter, since they can be sold NOW.
To be exact, many of them will have been sold before collectors/interested parties were aware there were another 30 on the market. With rare items the value drops with the number available by their reduction in rarity. Because of how this was done, with the gift being done in secret, the employees being told not to make it public, those which were sold before now were done so into a market that believed there were 80-90 or so, not 110-120 of them. So by keeping it all secret, CCP ensured the resale value for Somer blink employees remained high and wasn't reduced by the public knowledge of their 'gifts'. Fundamentally though, this is the same problem as them giving Somer blink unprecedented 'gifts' for them to auction off. While they could have just sold them, they still made hundreds of billion of isk in profit because of the increased visits to their site. So CCP essentially gave them prizes knowing that the end result would make Somer blink even more piles of isk because of their largesse. My point exactly... It's not the item - it's the way it was given that makes problems. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4707
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Posted - 2013.10.06 01:00:00 -
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A Research Alt wrote:The secrecy to which Somer aspired about the whole thing speaks volumes about its legitimacy. Or the inability of eve online players to "deal with it" There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
6187
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Posted - 2013.10.06 01:09:00 -
[681] - Quote
So....when does every Goon get their Intaki Syndicate Catalyst? Havent they done a lot for this game as well?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Julius Priscus
160
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Posted - 2013.10.06 01:14:00 -
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one other thing comes to mind after reading the screen shot of the corp mail... why are somer blink members allowed to use alts to play somer blink gambling??
sorta makes it even MORE dodgy. -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4707
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Posted - 2013.10.06 01:23:00 -
[683] - Quote
Julius Priscus wrote:one other thing comes to mind after reading the screen shot of the corp mail... why are somer blink members allowed to use alts to play somer blink gambling??
sorta makes it even MORE dodgy. ccp confirmed they are honest, no need to think such things There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Ra Jackson
the unified Negative Ten.
214
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Posted - 2013.10.06 01:34:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:because people were under the false assumption that it was a Legacy item which it is not and were paying that much.
though now we know better and its not...
but goons keep yelling 20 billion 520 billion 647 quajillion!
as if saying number means anything.
See, CCP? This is the customer you will be keeping after the dust settles. People that don't comprehend the simplest ideas of a market. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
376
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Posted - 2013.10.06 01:38:00 -
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Mehrunes666 Dagon wrote:Imiarr Timshae wrote:I would like to say that this is a shocking and unprecedented show of CCP acting moronically.
Sadly it isn't true.
To quote myself during the "$1000 jeans" debacle:
"CCP Says : This is our swimming pool. We are going to **** in the pool. You can stay in the pool or you can get out of the pool. But we are still going to **** in the pool." I would like to say that, that is a horrible way to keep customers.
doesn't matter if the customers are addicts the dealer can beat up the crackwhore, she'll still keep on coming back for the product they've got a captive market and they know it |
Pretty Maria
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.10.06 01:59:00 -
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I would like a damnation bpo then. :) just place it in my jita hangar. Also give my alt one please!
Thanks! |
Finarfin
Anomalous Existence
23
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Posted - 2013.10.06 02:12:00 -
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This was a VERY questionable move by CCP and implies that little has been learnt from past failures. I really would like to hear an exlanation on this one. |
Literally Space Moses
One Man Incursion Corp.
37
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Posted - 2013.10.06 02:13:00 -
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I'll resub if CCP give me a Levi. It cant be reprocessed into anything, so it has no in-game value. |
Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
672
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Posted - 2013.10.06 02:22:00 -
[689] - Quote
I just want to know why thats all. Not to hard right? i`m not mad just want to know it. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
602
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Posted - 2013.10.06 02:29:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Nobani wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:help help help my purely vanity item is shooting missiles and jamming people help help this isn't meant to be please be stupid enough to actually pay 20 billion for one and undock from jita saying you will jam every one... please. Wait, I thought they weren't worth anything because they only refined to 1 trit? Why would anyone pay 20b for one? because people were under the false assumption that it was a Legacy item which it is not and were paying that much. though now we know better and its not... but goons keep yelling 20 billion 520 billion 647 quajillion! as if saying number means anything.
Take a basic economics course when you get to college or at least high school and get back to us. |
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