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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1345
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Posted - 2013.10.07 23:14:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Charru Kauppias wrote:I bet 90% of people posting in this just enjoy the drama. let's assume you're correct. that still leaves nearly 7 pages of legitimate concern.
or 7 pages of people with mother issues that are in dire need of a registered therapist. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1345
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Posted - 2013.10.07 23:15:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Charru Kauppias wrote:I bet 90% of people posting in this just enjoy the drama. Confirming that Chribba is a drama lama.If Chribba is criticizing CCP, maybe they ought to rethink their policies. Totally forgot about Chribba ... If somebody should have gotten stuff, then him...
i duuno man CCP gave Cribbs mintchip... thats worth way more then internet pixles right? There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16899
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Posted - 2013.10.07 23:18:00 -
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Orakkus wrote:CCP rewarded Somer for their contributions to our community. What contributions are those?
Quote:This is not an issue. This is not even bad. Then neither was T20. Favouritism is favouritism is favouritism. Just because they've made a habit of it doesn't mean it's suddenly something else. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1345
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Posted - 2013.10.07 23:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Orakkus wrote:CCP rewarded Somer for their contributions to our community. What contributions are those.
ships/skills/etc...
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.10.07 23:24:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Axhind wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:How have we gone 60 pages without a response? Because CCP knows they are in the wrong. Kinda obvious after the reactions to Somer give away a week or so ago. Must be why they tried to keep the scorp thing secret. It's kinda like governments. I find out they are doing **** and then instead of stopping the full on ****** action they try to keep it secret in the future. Sadly for CCP we can refuse to give them money. scorpions happened first, however it has only become common knowledge a few days ago.
Great. So Scorpions was not enough and CCP had to give them new unique ships to give away and get even more customers. That makes a lot of sense, after there is such a lack of useful player made services that their only option was a gambling site that is making mad isk as it is.
Sometimes I wonder what the hell is going on at CCP. All the good work Fozie and co are doing gets ruined by the few devs who seem to have issues with ethics. |
Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
124
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Posted - 2013.10.07 23:33:00 -
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That's it !
The solution to the problem is to create a player division supported by CCP.
Players can ask for funding, in return for content. A fitting minimum requirement to apply would be a plan of what the funds would be used for.
The People (simply add a specific forum) and/or CCP can review these plans and then grant or deny funding.
Players who actually create content, also find supporting individuals.
If a player misuses the funds, he can simply be banned and the ISK pulled off.
This way, those worthy can be found easily and supported individually.
I know at least one guy, who isn't you or anybody not reading this, who could put this to very, very good use.
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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
387
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Posted - 2013.10.07 23:33:00 -
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Axhind wrote:Sometimes I wonder what the hell is going on at CCP. All the good work Fozie and co are doing gets ruined by the few devs who seem to have issues with ethics.
Keep supporting Fozzie and Rise in their quest to make this game not suck!
Despite the rest of the companies best efforts. Not today spaghetti. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1196
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Posted - 2013.10.07 23:39:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote:That's it !
The solution to the problem is to create a player division supported by CCP.
Players can ask for funding, in return for content. A fitting minimum requirement to apply would be a plan of what the funds would be used for.
The People (simply add a specific forum) and/or CCP can review these plans and then grant or deny funding.
Players who actually create content, also find supporting individuals.
If a player misuses the funds, he can simply be banned and the ISK pulled off.
This way, those worthy can be found easily and supported individually.
I know at least one guy, who isn't you or anybody not reading this, who could put this to very, very good use.
Here's a better idea. How about CCP stops f*king with the sandbox, and lets people create their own content and make their own money themselves? |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
965
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Posted - 2013.10.07 23:49:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Tippia wrote:Orakkus wrote:CCP rewarded Somer for their contributions to our community. What contributions are those. ships/skills/etc...
lol The Tears Must Flow |
Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers Dirt Nap Squad.
214
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:24:00 -
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Hilmar, why have you abandoned us?!?!?!
Seriously tho, need some words from CCP on this, no?
We shooting the monument yet? Probably not, I think most of us who "get it" are too sickened by this one to even engage in such frivolity. Seriously, makes monocles look like a bump in the road... |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4777
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:25:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Tippia wrote:Orakkus wrote:CCP rewarded Somer for their contributions to our community. What contributions are those. ships/skills/etc... lol Hahaha
oh wait, you were serious
is that what ccp told you? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers Dirt Nap Squad.
214
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:28:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Tippia wrote:Orakkus wrote:CCP rewarded Somer for their contributions to our community. What contributions are those. ships/skills/etc... lol Hahaha oh wait, you were serious is that what ccp told you?
Listen, I learned how to play eve from SomerBlink. It is simple:
You form a corporation in EVE and make a ton of isk, and then CCP Navigator will think you are really awesome for the game. I mean how could you not be? You make a lot of isk and run nifty lotteries, so you must be good for the game.
So:
CCP Navigator gives you more isk. You win!
Lesson: CCP rewards those who win at eve with more winning at eve. But only as long as you are 100% trustworthy, like good old SomerBlink. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4777
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:32:00 -
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Argus Sorn wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Tippia wrote:What contributions are those. ships/skills/etc... lol Hahaha oh wait, you were serious is that what ccp told you? Listen, I learned how to play eve from SomerBlink. It is simple: You form a corporation in EVE and make a ton of isk, and then CCP Navigator will think you are really awesome for the game. I mean how could you not be? You make a lot of isk and run nifty lotteries, so you must be good for the game. So: CCP Navigator gives you more isk. You win! Lesson: CCP rewards those who win at eve with more winning at eve. But only as long as you are 100% trustworthy, like good old SomerBlink. Sounds about right.
To play eve online properly you gotta play ccp real life There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
186
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:46:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:To all the people trying to dismiss those of us who are complaining, proclaiming us "childish", suggesting that we don't understand that it's "just a game" and that CCP have "every right" to do this...
I'll let you in on a little secret: We know it's a game. It's one of our little hobbies. We compete with each other for fun. We understand that EVE, and what happens in it, in the grand scheme of things isn't of great importance to our lives. We get that.
But it is a fun little hobby of ours, and if it's being messed with, we kinda don't like that.
Let's go with an analogy: Plenty of people play football (soccer) against their friends as a hobby. Nothing of great importance resides on the outcome, and they're in it just for fun. Now lets say that during a friendly match, just for a fun past time, the referee decides that one team is getting handed 3 extra goals. Just because he can do that. People wouldn't like that, and they'd stop playing with that referee.
People would be upset. And it's not because we are mistakenly attributing too great of an importance on what is just a hobby, it's not because we're childish and upset that the other group won... it's because, at the end of the day, such actions reduce the fun we had with that activity. It's that simple. It makes it not as fun any more. If the interference happens enough times, and to large enough degrees, we're going to move away from this particular fun past time onto one which is just more enjoyable.
I'm surprised this has to even be explicitly explained, I would have thought it rather obvious. Or maybe it is, and people are just trolling or trying to defend a company/game they're fans of from any criticism
Not empty quoting. I am not an alt of Chribba. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4779
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:48:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:To all the people trying to dismiss those of us who are complaining, proclaiming us "childish", suggesting that we don't understand that it's "just a game" and that CCP have "every right" to do this...
I'll let you in on a little secret: We know it's a game. It's one of our little hobbies. We compete with each other for fun. We understand that EVE, and what happens in it, in the grand scheme of things isn't of great importance to our lives. We get that.
But it is a fun little hobby of ours, and if it's being messed with, we kinda don't like that.
Let's go with an analogy: Plenty of people play football (soccer) against their friends as a hobby. Nothing of great importance resides on the outcome, and they're in it just for fun. Now lets say that during a friendly match, just for a fun past time, the referee decides that one team is getting handed 3 extra goals. Just because he can do that. People wouldn't like that, and they'd stop playing with that referee.
People would be upset. And it's not because we are mistakenly attributing too great of an importance on what is just a hobby, it's not because we're childish and upset that the other group won... it's because, at the end of the day, such actions reduce the fun we had with that activity. It's that simple. It makes it not as fun any more. If the interference happens enough times, and to large enough degrees, we're going to move away from this particular fun past time onto one which is just more enjoyable.
I'm surprised this has to even be explicitly explained, I would have thought it rather obvious. Or maybe it is, and people are just trolling or trying to defend a company/game they're fans of from any criticism
people loved walk in station too Not empty quoting.
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
186
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:52:00 -
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Alavaria wrote: Sounds about right.
To play eve online properly you gotta play ccp real life
So THAT'S why E-Uni and RvB haven't been given rare and exclusive ships yet (that we know of).
Of course, knowing them, they'd just get them all blown up *shudder* instead of using them as isk windfalls, like they should. I am not an alt of Chribba. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6067
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:54:00 -
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Money Makin Mitch wrote:i have read some allegations that CCP Navigator previously worked for Somer blink. is there any confirmation on this? Bring back Kugutsumen. Favoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.10.08 01:07:00 -
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How long will this thread last?
WILLING TO TAKE BETS!
maybe if I form a corp and take bets i'll get my own scorp |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4781
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Posted - 2013.10.08 01:35:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Alavaria wrote: Sounds about right.
To play eve online properly you gotta play ccp real life
So THAT'S why E-Uni and RvB haven't been given rare and exclusive ships yet (that we know of). Of course, knowing them, they'd just get them all blown up *shudder* instead of using them as isk windfalls, like they should. Well they could probably use them as a massive t1 frigate windfall.
I don't know how far it would go, but if it's like Rifters and stuff, pretty far. Much further than 1 trit.
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4781
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Posted - 2013.10.08 01:36:00 -
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Anomaly One wrote:How long will this thread last? WILLING TO TAKE BETS! maybe if I form a corp and take bets i'll get my own scorp Only if it somehow gets people buying gtc from you instead of elsewhere There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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Kordran Ke'Azir
PonyWaffe Insidious Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.10.08 01:41:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Anomaly One wrote:Quote: Your opinion is yours ... but saying that people are silly ... ... while at the same time admitting that you were like that ... ... "genuinely" ... makes you look like a questionable character in my eyes. (i lack words to properly describe how i perceive this) I used to do something that was stupid I have grown out of it and realized I shouldn't do it so I no longer do this thing It is no longer stupid? Thanks ... i completely missed this other perspective.
A more extreme, but maybe easier to understand analogy would be this:
I used to do massive amounts of crack. I realised (by growing up) that doing it was fricking stupid and was killing me so I stopped. Does previously doing massive amounts of crack now stop me from telling people who still do massive amounts of crack that it's fricking stupid and is killing them? |
Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
125
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Posted - 2013.10.08 01:59:00 -
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Kordran Ke'Azir wrote:A more extreme, but maybe easier to understand analogy would be this:
I used to do massive amounts of crack. I realised (by growing up) that doing it was fricking stupid and was killing me so I stopped. Does previously doing massive amounts of crack now stop me from telling people who still do massive amounts of crack that it's fricking stupid and is killing them? How is that the same ? EvE isn't killing you, so emotional attachement isn't bad per se. |
Tasha Saisima
State War Academy Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2013.10.08 02:56:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Tasha Saisima wrote:Where does the "secrecy" come into play? I see Somer asking for secrecy but not ccp ccp clearly agreed to do it under the table.
This is pure guesswork unless someone can prove Navigator asked for it to be done in secrecy
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
436
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Posted - 2013.10.08 03:23:00 -
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Just hit me that CCP employees who play in secret (as required) may not really understand the value of isk. Do they get their side accounts for free or do they have to really join the rest of us in forking up cash each month or working our asses off to PLEX?
Root of evil? CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Naradius
Sanguinis Ablutione Angeli Mortis
63
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Posted - 2013.10.08 03:42:00 -
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Tasha Saisima wrote:Kate stark wrote:Tasha Saisima wrote:Where does the "secrecy" come into play? I see Somer asking for secrecy but not ccp ccp clearly agreed to do it under the table. This is pure guesswork unless someone can prove Navigator asked for it to be done in secrecy
This is true, although it does seem to have been a conscious decision by CCP to keep things quiet. From the time line it seems that these gifts were given before the shitstorm of the magnets and vexor prizes. There was a big announcement from CCP about that, but they chose to still be quiet about the Scorps.
Anyway after considerable consideration, I've decided to develop an Evebook website, with plex to play Amarrville and Caldari Crush plex to play games. Set up my own plex selling store, and every time somebody buys through that store, they get an extra life bonus on games. People will be able to invite friends to play for a bonus (based on standings). Obviously this will create mind numbing addiction, which will, in turn, create plenty of isk for me, but more importantly for CCP . I should be on to a winner.
Of course, there will be advertising on my site, based on peoples browsing habits...so I should make quite a bit from SOMERBlink as well .
Any gifts that I receive, will be gratefully accepted (not that I will tell you reprobates and low lifes about it), which I will dully sell on the in-game market for billions and billions and billions. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
686
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Posted - 2013.10.08 03:42:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:Just hit me that CCP employees who play in secret (as required) may not really understand the value of isk. Do they get their side accounts for free or do they have to really join the rest of us in forking up cash each month or working our asses off to PLEX?
Root of evil?
I can't state specifically for CCP of course, but I've had a few friends work in-house for reasonably large MMOG companies. Their policy was, in-house staff got accounts free, and could get "stuff" spawned for their chars, within reason.
No super rare game breaking things on the "play" chars, but it typically wasn't an issue to fire off an E-mail with "Hey, can you set me up with a lvl 90 Death Magician with typical gear for the level? Don't feel like grinding" The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2997
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:10:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:To all the people trying to dismiss those of us who are complaining, proclaiming us "childish", suggesting that we don't understand that it's "just a game" and that CCP have "every right" to do this...
I'll let you in on a little secret: We know it's a game. It's one of our little hobbies. We compete with each other for fun. We understand that EVE, and what happens in it, in the grand scheme of things isn't of great importance to our lives. We get that.
But it is a fun little hobby of ours, and if it's being messed with, we kinda don't like that.
Let's go with an analogy: Plenty of people play football (soccer) against their friends as a hobby. Nothing of great importance resides on the outcome, and they're in it just for fun. Now lets say that during a friendly match, just for a fun past time, the referee decides that one team is getting handed 3 extra goals. Just because he can do that. People wouldn't like that, and they'd stop playing with that referee.
People would be upset. And it's not because we are mistakenly attributing too great of an importance on what is just a hobby, it's not because we're childish and upset that the other group won... it's because, at the end of the day, such actions reduce the fun we had with that activity. It's that simple. It makes it not as fun any more. If the interference happens enough times, and to large enough degrees, we're going to move away from this particular fun past time onto one which is just more enjoyable.
I'm surprised this has to even be explicitly explained, I would have thought it rather obvious. Or maybe it is, and people are just trolling or trying to defend a company/game they're fans of from any criticism
i bolded the part thats important. you people didn't stop playing with the ref, your still playing while runnning up and down the street comploaining about how unfair it is and that ref will cause the end of the world.
I'm sorry that CCP giving some people some crap ships makes the game less fun for you. It does not for me.
But please, for the love of all that's good, stop descending to the level of the idiots we all usually laugh at. No one is trolling you, no one is trying to get a response from you. Even suggesting thyatr is unworthy of an intelligent man.
We disagree and think that your reaction is silly. It's not being any kind of CCP white knight or fanboi, we're not on SOMERs payroll. We simply think all of this is stupid.
We're pointing out to you that your reaction is silly, the same way we'd point it out to the guy playing a non-professional pick up game of soccer who ended up punching the ref in the mouth and getting hauled off to jail for assault, all of something that just doesn't matter one bit. Just find a new ref.
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Kaivar Lancer
Metropolis Acquisition Services
316
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:14:00 -
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Well I've let my alt sub expire. I see no reason to continue skilling up my industrial alt when CCP can give my competition hundreds of billions of free ISK. Kinda defeats the purpose of playing a game, no? |
Kaivar Lancer
Metropolis Acquisition Services
316
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:17:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Just find a new ref.
LOL. How many space-themed sandboxes do you think are out there? I know there's Vendetta but that's about it. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9268
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:19:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:How many space-themed sandboxes do you think are out there?
as far as MMOs with at least 10,000 players online throughout most of the day? none, since about a year ago or so Twitter: @EVEAndski
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