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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:25:00 -
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Gambling addiction is a real life problem, and it's possible to put real life money into this game, so my opinion (and I recognize it's just that) is that Somer Blink's contribution to the game experience is a net negative. That said, the blame for the recent scandal(s) lays entirely on CCP. I can't really fault Somer Blink for taking free stuff when CCP Navigator is lobbing it at them.
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Cierra Royce
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:46:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Gambling addiction is a real life problem, and it's possible to put real life money into this game, so my opinion (and I recognize it's just that) is that Somer Blink's contribution to the game experience is a net negative. That said, the blame for the recent scandal(s) lays entirely on CCP. I can't really fault Somer Blink for taking free stuff when CCP Navigator is lobbing it at them.
Hmm it's a very good point, gamblers are bads and it's right to take their In game money off them, but gets all a bit too real and sleazy when you take into account people converting plexes for gambling purposes.
Johnny, don't ever talk to me again, I'm supposed to be an amoral monster, a psychopathic minion of the Mittani with no soul, I can't be having these type of doubts creeping in, worse still when delivered by fellow goons, oh the goonmanity. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9266
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:12:00 -
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Chance Harper wrote:I wouldnt call it skill. With some Logic and paying attention, you can figure out pretty fast how to make ISK on SomerBlink! Every Month i buy a 60Day GTC via the Somer Affiliate system. Which in return gives you 200 Mill. Somer Credits.
First i turn those 200 Mill into 600 Mill. by buying Tickets for smaller prices, like BC or Tech3 Cruisers. Then when i have the 600 Mill. I go for the Carriers or other Cap ships and in no time i can claim a win of 1.5 - 2 Bill. ISK
In the end i didnt even had to invest anything cuz i got those 200 Mill. credits as a gift for buying the GTC. So in the end you get the value of 5 PLEX for the price of 2.
i'm sorry to say it but your "system" is nonsense because there is no "system" for winning lotteries the same way there is no system for winning jackpots at slot machines Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9266
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:13:00 -
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in almost every case, people who claim to have "systems" for winning at such things are just trying to justify their gambling problems Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
634
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:28:00 -
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Cierra Royce wrote: Hmm it's a very good point, gamblers are bads and it's right to take their In game money off them, but gets all a bit too real and sleazy when you take into account people converting plexes for gambling purposes.
Johnny, don't ever talk to me again, I'm supposed to be an amoral monster, a psychopathic minion of the Mittani with no soul, I can't be having these type of doubts creeping in, worse still when delivered by fellow goons, oh the goonmanity.
Yeah, I'm pretty bad at being evil. I think I get away it because grr goons overrides everything else, thank god.
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Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.10.07 19:21:00 -
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I am not ready to bash the SOMER group for CCP's COMPLETE lack of integrity. |
ZeeWolf Novus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2013.10.07 19:25:00 -
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wowyouareacow wrote: Do SOMER Blink really make a positive contribution to the community?
No |
Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
601
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Posted - 2013.10.07 19:33:00 -
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Grr Goons. "QQ threads are only allowed in the Out of Pod Experience forum." - ISD Cura Ursus |
Metal Icarus
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
638
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Posted - 2013.10.07 19:34:00 -
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No.
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Swidgen
Republic University Minmatar Republic
116
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Posted - 2013.10.07 19:39:00 -
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wowyouareacow wrote:Hi. Do SOMER Blink really make a positive contribution to the community? IMO no, they do not. They make positive contributions to their own wallets and some other in-game entities. Everyone else loses, cumulatively, in the long run. Sure, one guy might hit a jackpot for 10 or even 50 bil, but show me any group of 10 blink players and I'll show you a group of players that are collectively missing at least 10 billion from their wallets.
Now if somer was a hidden isk sink and CCP was just paying them to make the isk "disappear" then I might reconsider my opinion of them. Other than that, they're crooks. Nobody who has ever run a casino has been anything but. |
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Tasha Saisima
State War Academy Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2013.10.07 19:52:00 -
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Yet another ignorant thread |
Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
543
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:12:00 -
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Disdaine wrote:Somers altruistic contributions to the community are truly praiseworthy.
It's like all those benevolent cigarette companies that used to sponsor sporting events out of the kindness of their hearts.
Camel Joe is the kindest benefactor of them all.
Screw that Red Cowboy guy. This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |
Roxwar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
128
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:13:00 -
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wowyouareacow wrote: Do SOMER Blink really make a positive contribution to the community?
No.
Ive played this game for 4yrs and not once has somer contributed anything that effects me or given me content.
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Chance Harper
Northen Star Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.10.08 08:48:00 -
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Andski wrote:Chance Harper wrote:I wouldnt call it skill. With some Logic and paying attention, you can figure out pretty fast how to make ISK on SomerBlink! Every Month i buy a 60Day GTC via the Somer Affiliate system. Which in return gives you 200 Mill. Somer Credits.
First i turn those 200 Mill into 600 Mill. by buying Tickets for smaller prices, like BC or Tech3 Cruisers. Then when i have the 600 Mill. I go for the Carriers or other Cap ships and in no time i can claim a win of 1.5 - 2 Bill. ISK
In the end i didnt even had to invest anything cuz i got those 200 Mill. credits as a gift for buying the GTC. So in the end you get the value of 5 PLEX for the price of 2. i'm sorry to say it but your "system" is nonsense because there is no "system" for winning lotteries the same way there is no system for winning jackpots at slot machines
This isnt really a system, its just how i do it and it works for me every time. You might be right that there is no system to win a real lottery but this isnt real, there is a randomizer application that is picking the numbers. Since that application was written by a person, there is a system behind it. |
Snow Axe
Atwater Capital
1357
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Posted - 2013.10.08 09:31:00 -
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Doesn't matter if they're a positive factor or not, they don't need rewards or favours. Their reward is the absurd amount of profit they rake in every day. This profit is also known as "the only reason Somer Blink exists", by the way.
"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
62
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Posted - 2013.10.08 10:11:00 -
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does anyone have a tl;dr for me? |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
275
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Posted - 2013.10.08 10:32:00 -
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wowyouareacow wrote:Hi. Do SOMER Blink really make a positive contribution to the community? I thought they were just a "casino" organisation that hosted a gambling game which requires no skill, and due to rake, ultimately loses the players money.
Am I missing something here with SOMER? Is there a skill based element to their game?
No, you're not missing anything.
It's a gambling site just like all the RL gambling sites out there.
The only difference is that you can either play with ISK or real money (buy GTC, get Blink credits).
As with any other gambling site it will feed the addiction of those that can't help themselves and it's quite possible that at some point it will lead to some poor sod actually spending more than they can really afford in real life moneys due to their 'need' to win a shiny ship.
Yes, just like all businesses that are inherently bad for their customers they invest a fair amount in promotion and advertising but it all comes down to the bottom line at the end of the day. |
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
104
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Posted - 2013.10.08 10:47:00 -
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wowyouareacow wrote:Hi. Do SOMER Blink really make a positive contribution to the community?
Yep. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2849
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Posted - 2013.10.08 14:54:00 -
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Locking this as a duplicate thread. We already have discussion threads for this issue here and here. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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