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Quintessen
Messengers of Judah Socius Inter Nos
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Posted - 2013.10.11 00:56:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:Lidia Caderu wrote:Yeap, turn T2 BPO's to 1000 run BPC's would be ok. With max ME, PE A 1000 run BPC wouldn't be nearly large enough to compensate someone who just bought a BPO. T2 BPO's have very few markets "cornered". They give an advantage, but cost an enormous amount of isk... The only thing that should be addressed, is ALL BPO's should require some "risk" to fully utilize them. Arbitrary risks, like requiring them to be run from a corp hangar, simply aren't enough. I would advocate all BPO's need to be run at a POS (but from a module that can be "cleared out" if the POS comes under attack and is RF'd. Unfortunately, this would undermine the ability of a new player getting involved in S&I. We really need some middle ground.... and I don't know how to implement it.
I agree with your second point, but I was thinking more like 50k or 100k runs remaining. Something that would take them out of the game in maybe three to five years. The idea is to get enough runs to pay for it, but for it to be gone by the end of that number of runs. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2013.10.11 03:14:00 -
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Quintessen wrote:I agree with your second point, but I was thinking more like 50k or 100k runs remaining. Something that would take them out of the game in maybe three to five years. The idea is to get enough runs to pay for it, but for it to be gone by the end of that number of runs.
There are BPOs that are being sold at 10+ times their annual return.
If you think they're a problem now, why are you willing to wait 3 to 5 years to fix it? If you don't think they're a problem, what's there to fix? "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2013.10.11 13:36:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:+1 remove t2 bpo's from the game. to many of them have the markets cornered. the only people who dont support this are owners of said bpo's While ever we have this kind of ignorance in the game, this request will continue to pop up.
So far I've not seen one logical or financial reason that is valid and based on facts, that would back up the call for T2 BPO's to be removed.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.14 17:36:00 -
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bloodknight2 wrote:You can buy T2 BPO on contract. You want to remove them from the game because you don't have enough isk to buy one?
no. but your missing the point. why can ccp remove mines but not t2 bpos. every one should be able to buy them or win them with fir chance that it was made on. it is a simple principle. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:16:00 -
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ALI Virgo wrote:bloodknight2 wrote:You can buy T2 BPO on contract. You want to remove them from the game because you don't have enough isk to buy one? no. but your missing the point. why can ccp remove mines but not t2 bpos. every one should be able to buy them or win them with fir chance that it was made on. it is a simple principle.
First: Mines weren't removed. You can still buy mines on contract. Second: There were legitimate server health and game balance issues with mines necessitating their deactivation. There are no such issues with BPOs. Third: Everyone does have the chance to build T2 items. It's called invention. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:18:00 -
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ALI Virgo wrote:bloodknight2 wrote:You can buy T2 BPO on contract. You want to remove them from the game because you don't have enough isk to buy one? no. but your missing the point. why can ccp remove mines but not t2 bpos. every one should be able to buy them or win them with fir chance that it was made on. it is a simple principle.
T2 BPO's were acquired fairly... and just because you weren't playing the game to enter the competition when they were given out does not mean they were handed out unfairly.
There are many items in game you cannot win or buy off the NPC market: Example: Cambions, Etana's, Utu's, Chremoas, and many, many more. Here's a list of more. You can still own mines, btw, they just aren't deployable objects anymore.
I'll repeat this again so it sinks in: No one today has acquired their t2 BPO unfairly. Your stuck on this lottery that happened over 6 YEARS ago. Complaining about them having a t2 BPO from back then is like complaining they have more SP than you. They don't break the game, they don't prevent you from being a successful t2 manufacture, and they add value to the game as unique legacy items for people to covet!
The ONLY thing about ALL BPO's that is unbalanced, is you can utilize them risk free.
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