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ianisk
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.09 00:46:00 -
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I encountered 2 algos today in faction warfare. The question I have is there a ship that can counter the algos? It would have to be a frig or dessie to get into the fw small plexes. i was wondering if kiting with a talwar would work? suggestions anyone? |
Major Killz
La Fraternite
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Posted - 2013.10.09 00:58:00 -
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ANY 2 Destroyers are a pain to engage. However, with links 2 Algos and or Dragoons are a b!tch to engage.
As for one destroyer? Why not just fly an Algos yourself if it's so good v0v - Killz
Combat Log: http://www.youtube.com/user/kdsalmon/videos - Pantaloon II: Violins (Jun 23, 2013) |
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.10.09 03:03:00 -
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I love these "what counters x" threads because they're never useful. What was the fit? How were they positioned? Did you even go into the plex or just sit there and d-scan and leave? What were you in? Did you guys fight and if so did they stay together or did they just flail about? Need to know more :P Arma Purgatorium - For the State, For the Corporation Faction Warfare, PvP, Training
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Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
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Posted - 2013.10.09 03:27:00 -
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Keep range and kill drones. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2013.10.09 07:04:00 -
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OP - If you would like to kill 2 algos you will need to obtain a certain ship.
Because I am so nice - I am not going to tell you what that ship is called.
But I will give you a few hints. It is not available on the in game market. It is not available on contract. It can usually (but not always) be obtained if you join a player run pvp corp.
If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
Denuo Secus
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Posted - 2013.10.09 10:38:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:OP - If you would like to kill 2 algos you will need to obtain a certain ship.
Because I am so nice - I am not going to tell you what that ship is called.
But I will give you a few hints. It is not available on the in game market. It is not available on contract. It can usually (but not always) be obtained if you join a player run pvp corp.
Dictatorship?
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Dan Carter Murray
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Posted - 2013.10.09 13:47:00 -
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2 gank catalyst or 2 gank coercer
just put sebo instead of point so you get the first 2 shots before they can get 1 in. you don't need a point. http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com |
kurage87
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.09 14:12:00 -
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Denuo Secus wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:OP - If you would like to kill 2 algos you will need to obtain a certain ship.
Because I am so nice - I am not going to tell you what that ship is called.
But I will give you a few hints. It is not available on the in game market. It is not available on contract. It can usually (but not always) be obtained if you join a player run pvp corp.
Dictatorship? Friendship \o/ |
Rabid Disconnection
Inner Shadow C.L.O.N.E.
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:02:00 -
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Dual ASB hawk can kill two algos, especially if they launch hobs. Harder if they launch Warriors, and very difficult with Valks. |
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
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Posted - 2013.10.09 18:01:00 -
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Rabid Disconnection wrote:Dual ASB hawk can kill two algos, especially if they launch hobs. Harder if they launch Warriors, and very difficult with Valks.
Nah, shouldn't really matter what they launch. Dual ASB Hawk can tank 500 DPS until charges run out, it's more than enough to win a 2 Algos engagement |
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2013.10.10 04:50:00 -
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kurage87 wrote:Denuo Secus wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:OP - If you would like to kill 2 algos you will need to obtain a certain ship.
Because I am so nice - I am not going to tell you what that ship is called.
But I will give you a few hints. It is not available on the in game market. It is not available on contract. It can usually (but not always) be obtained if you join a player run pvp corp.
Dictatorship? Friendship \o/
WE HAVE A WINNER. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.10.10 05:22:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:kurage87 wrote:Denuo Secus wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:OP - If you would like to kill 2 algos you will need to obtain a certain ship.
Because I am so nice - I am not going to tell you what that ship is called.
But I will give you a few hints. It is not available on the in game market. It is not available on contract. It can usually (but not always) be obtained if you join a player run pvp corp.
Dictatorship? Friendship \o/ WE HAVE A WINNER.
Failing that, hookbill. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2013.10.10 05:29:00 -
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chatgris wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:kurage87 wrote:Denuo Secus wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:OP - If you would like to kill 2 algos you will need to obtain a certain ship.
Because I am so nice - I am not going to tell you what that ship is called.
But I will give you a few hints. It is not available on the in game market. It is not available on contract. It can usually (but not always) be obtained if you join a player run pvp corp.
Dictatorship? Friendship \o/ WE HAVE A WINNER. Failing that, hookbill.
Medium Shield Booster tanked LM Breacher works well too. Breachers DPS is a bit low but the Algoses drones become a non issue.
If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 09:19:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:
Medium Shield Booster tanked LM Breacher works well too. Breachers DPS is a bit low but the Algoses drones become a non issue.
Only when you have claymore boost running and your sig is the size of a shuttle orbiting at 5km/s....make sure you tell the whole story on how that fit works. |
Chessur
Strontless Mistakes Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.10.10 17:49:00 -
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Talwar is the best destroyer (but as a whole dessies are a horrible ship class, and should never be flown). Just kite them to death. Your light missiles will easily kill off their drones, and you can kill them from afar. With the talwar, you should be able to handle multiple algos.
Ideally though, just get a cruiser- and **** face. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.10.10 18:50:00 -
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Wow, really?
Chessur wrote:Talwar is the best destroyer (but as a whole dessies are a horrible ship class
http://thewaysofthemew.blogspot.com
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Chessur
Strontless Mistakes Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:10:00 -
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Princess Nexxala wrote:Wow, really? Chessur wrote:Talwar is the best destroyer (but as a whole dessies are a horrible ship class
Yah really. They do horrible DPS, have little to know projection, have no tank, and have horrible speed / compareable sig tank.
Cruisers are always the better option. Always. Unless you are inside a small FW plex. But even then, AF's are superior. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:05:00 -
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Yun Kuai wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:
Medium Shield Booster tanked LM Breacher works well too. Breachers DPS is a bit low but the Algoses drones become a non issue.
Only when you have claymore boost running and your sig is the size of a shuttle orbiting at 5km/s....make sure you tell the whole story on how that fit works.
What Claymore????
It's just overheating man.
But to be serious - the breacher works well without boosts since they buffed the shield boosters in last update.
If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
The Lobsters
The Operation
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:31:00 -
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A blaster harpy can smash through a 400mm plate algos fairly good. I used to be scared of algos' but their not so hard if you have a bit of tank. Drones can be dumb and slow to react. If you are quick and on your game, load void, get in their face and smash their teeth in. That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested his claim. |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2013.10.10 23:42:00 -
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I've wondered this myself and the only answer I could come up with is to go back to highsec because there isn't a counter. I really hope CCP fixes this soon because I want to try FW and lowsec.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
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Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
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Posted - 2013.10.11 00:38:00 -
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After initial testing, confirming that the Dragoon absolutely mangles the Algos |
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.10.13 13:07:00 -
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I read a few replies to this thread, namely "dessies suck because xyz" and "CCP fix broke game pl0x" and I have resolved that this thread is no longer being visited by those who understand PvP, and only those who EFT warrior or regurgitate false facts they read on EVE News 24.
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.10.13 13:37:00 -
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Two dragoons probably
Failing that..
I don't know, lml talwars maybe? BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Mra Rednu
Black Watch Guard
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Posted - 2013.10.13 13:46:00 -
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Chessur wrote:Princess Nexxala wrote:Wow, really? Chessur wrote:Talwar is the best destroyer (but as a whole dessies are a horrible ship class Yah really. They do horrible DPS, have little to no projection, have no tank, and have horrible speed / compareable sig tank. Cruisers are always the better option. Always. Unless you are inside a small FW plex. But even then, AF's are superior.
Not saying you are wrong as that is you're opinion and you more than entitled to it but you are definately not right on this subject. |
Chessur
Strontless Mistakes Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.10.13 18:18:00 -
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Mra Rednu wrote:Chessur wrote:Princess Nexxala wrote:Wow, really? Chessur wrote:Talwar is the best destroyer (but as a whole dessies are a horrible ship class Yah really. They do horrible DPS, have little to no projection, have no tank, and have horrible speed / compareable sig tank. Cruisers are always the better option. Always. Unless you are inside a small FW plex. But even then, AF's are superior. Not saying you are wrong as that is you're opinion and you more than entitled to it but you are definately not right on this subject.
I am right.
Destroyers suck, and if i see one on grid I pretty much ignore it. Unless i am in a lightly tanked frig. They are pointless unless you fly FW and really like going into small plexes only. |
Hrett
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.10.13 20:12:00 -
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Chessur wrote:Mra Rednu wrote:Chessur wrote:Princess Nexxala wrote:Wow, really? Chessur wrote:Talwar is the best destroyer (but as a whole dessies are a horrible ship class Yah really. They do horrible DPS, have little to no projection, have no tank, and have horrible speed / compareable sig tank. Cruisers are always the better option. Always. Unless you are inside a small FW plex. But even then, AF's are superior. Not saying you are wrong as that is you're opinion and you more than entitled to it but you are definately not right on this subject. I am right. Destroyers suck, and if i see one on grid I pretty much ignore it. Unless i am in a lightly tanked frig. They are pointless unless you fly FW and really like going into small plexes only.
Confirming lots of pilots in FW that go into all sorts of plexes, including smalls.
Also, cockbag Thrasher. I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |
Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.14 03:12:00 -
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Use a Wolf. "QQ threads are only allowed in the Out of Pod Experience forum." - ISD Cura Ursus |
Bouh Revetoile
TIPIAKS
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Posted - 2013.10.14 21:26:00 -
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Chessur wrote:Destroyers suck, and if i see one on grid I pretty much ignore it. Unless i am in a lightly tanked frig. They are pointless unless you fly FW and really like going into small plexes only. Just a free advice : you shouldn't ignore a destroyer on field, whatever your ship. |
Phaade
Debitum Naturae C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:37:00 -
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Bouh Revetoile wrote:Chessur wrote:Destroyers suck, and if i see one on grid I pretty much ignore it. Unless i am in a lightly tanked frig. They are pointless unless you fly FW and really like going into small plexes only. Just a free advice : you shouldn't ignore a destroyer on field, whatever your ship.
Exactly, you primary them. |
JAF Anders
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:27:00 -
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Chessur wrote: Yah really. They do horrible DPS, have little to no projection, have no tank, and have horrible speed / compareable sig tank.
Cruisers are always the better option. Always. Unless you are inside a small FW plex. But even then, AF's are superior.
No, no. Keep flying cruisers. It's better for our Battleclinic points. QCATS is Recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
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