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Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:29:00 -
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Artillery are fine as they are now
Autocannons on the other hand seem way too strong compared to both Pulse and Blasters, even after the hybrid buff I can't think of one good reason to use Blasters over a Autocannon.
Awesome damage even in falloff, no cap, can hit pretty far out, fantastic tracking, dead easy to fit and to top it off, selectable damage.
They need tweaking. |
Hellsonfire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:48:00 -
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Haha!
Damn i should have put my diver suit on, its filled with tears created by people who loose to minmatar or generally cant fly.
Nice read tho :) |
Kiran
Knights of Azrael F0rgotten Hope
6
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:30:00 -
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I dont think they are over powered and I fly the Minmatar ships and been in fights against them.
If you want over powered I would say the Curse is, but you dont seem me coming here to cry about it. I try to figure ways round their strengths to hit them where it hurts.
The Tornado has the lowest EHP of the Tier 3 BC's and medium DPS compaired to the other Tier3's. I don't think thats over powered, I just think it gives me a challange when trying to fit it to gain from its strengths. |
Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:45:00 -
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Kiran wrote:I dont think they are over powered and I fly the Minmatar ships and been in fights against them.
If you want over powered I would say the Curse is, but you dont seem me coming here to cry about it. I try to figure ways round their strengths to hit them where it hurts.
The Tornado has the lowest EHP of the Tier 3 BC's and medium DPS compaired to the other Tier3's. I don't think thats over powered, I just think it gives me a challange when trying to fit it to gain from its strengths. omg another matard fanboy... how many are there ?:O |
Hellsonfire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:47:00 -
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Naomi Knight wrote:Kiran wrote:I dont think they are over powered and I fly the Minmatar ships and been in fights against them.
If you want over powered I would say the Curse is, but you dont seem me coming here to cry about it. I try to figure ways round their strengths to hit them where it hurts.
The Tornado has the lowest EHP of the Tier 3 BC's and medium DPS compaired to the other Tier3's. I don't think thats over powered, I just think it gives me a challange when trying to fit it to gain from its strengths. omg another matard fanboy... how many are there ?:O
Enough to make a weakling like you break down ;) |
Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:51:00 -
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Hellsonfire wrote:Naomi Knight wrote:Kiran wrote:I dont think they are over powered and I fly the Minmatar ships and been in fights against them.
If you want over powered I would say the Curse is, but you dont seem me coming here to cry about it. I try to figure ways round their strengths to hit them where it hurts.
The Tornado has the lowest EHP of the Tier 3 BC's and medium DPS compaired to the other Tier3's. I don't think thats over powered, I just think it gives me a challange when trying to fit it to gain from its strengths. omg another matard fanboy... how many are there ?:O Enough to make a weakling like you break down ;) that is hardly possible as i have the thruth:P these are just want to def their opmatar ships with lies |
Hellsonfire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:10:00 -
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Hardly possible....Shock me, say something intelligent..... the posts you done here are mostly signs of break down....**** it ill join ya... :D
You are nothing but a whiney little *****, who deserves a good asswopin, I'd slap you, but s-hit stains.
P.S. You cant handle the truth!!!! |
Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:11:00 -
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Hellsonfire wrote:Hardly possible....Shock me, say something intelligent..... the posts you done here are mostly signs of break down....**** it ill join ya... :D
You are nothing but a whiney little *****, who deserves a good asswopin, I'd slap you, but s-hit stains.
P.S. You cant handle the truth!!!! tell us say something intelligent , but non of you posted anything usefull , other than oh no matar is not op and tries to compare some matar ships with heavy tanked amarr ones possibly not even in the same tier to show us amarr has like 10-15% ehp advantage :P hehe matars you guys are so funny
the problem even if us present facts you would just ignore them ,so why to bother? |
Hellsonfire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:31:00 -
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Damn you REALLY must be the left-overs from the abortion bucket, because you started ignoring facts first.
So why am i here? Simply just to annoy you, im not here do have a "good" discussion with you, im here to stay on your level.
Btw Minmatar are balanced, and you suck. Alot...
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Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:51:00 -
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Hellsonfire wrote:Damn you REALLY must be the left-overs from the abortion bucket, because you started ignoring facts first. So why am i here? Simply just to annoy you, im not here do have a "good" discussion with you, im here to stay on your level. Btw Minmatar are balanced, and you suck. Alot... good for u, oh matar folks are so simple...
yep as balanced as those will be nerfed sooner or later :P go run some circles with them while you can |
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
310
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Posted - 2011.12.02 20:05:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:Just give my megathron a web range bonus and everything will be fine keep your rust buckets. Gallente for life!
Me too wants that Minmatar tear extractor
hmm? -yeah it's a new PI stuff. |
Ceti Lomax
Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 20:14:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:Two thoughts:
- Lose the ~9% DPS increase that short range ammo got with the projectile buff. The purification of damage type was more then enough.
- Reduce the tracking enhancer falloff bonus from 30% to 15%.
Discuss. Odviously an Amarr spy.
Shoot the traitor.
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Nikollai Tesla
Crytec Enterprises SRS.
10
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Posted - 2011.12.02 20:22:00 -
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Saw this on the dev blog today, wanted to cross post it since its official Data from CCP looking through their database, not from a kill board. The statistics are quite interesting:
1) Projectiles are favored 600% over Hybrids 2) No Gallente ships in the top 10.
Question Minmatar, is this working as intended?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=postmessage&t=40902&f=247&q=453895
CCP Diagoras wrote: Final blows, weapon type, 2011 only, PVP only:
Group: Projectile Weapon1,455,484 Energy Weapon392,605 Hybrid Weapon250,858 Combat Drone221,329 Heavy Missile203,896
Type: 425mm AutoCannon II388,602 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II207,378 200mm AutoCannon II163,613 150mm Light AutoCannon II144,349 720mm Howitzer Artillery II136,879
By ship type scoring the final blow: Hurricane378,864 Drake272,204 Sabre124,472 Dramiel118,128 Vagabond117,136 Cynabal113,905 Abaddon80,659 Tengu79,493 Harbinger71,286 Rifter67,721
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Takeshi Yamato
ALA Biomedical
6
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Posted - 2011.12.02 20:38:00 -
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Nikollai Tesla wrote:Question Minmatar, is this working as intended?
Clearly, Minmatar pilots are just better players than everyone else
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Lili Lu
49
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Posted - 2011.12.02 20:55:00 -
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Oh hey, final blows, from a weapons system known for a high rate of fire (and thus chances to get on that final blow) and ships that typically use them.
The stats on evesco with ships used on killmails tell you more about what ships are being flown.
Then from there we can talk about what is op and what not based on other parameters. To simply point to that one block of stats on final blows and scream op is dumb. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
127
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Posted - 2011.12.02 20:57:00 -
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Nikollai Tesla wrote: 1) Projectiles are favored 600% over Hybrids 2) No Gallente ships in the top 10.
Hey, I think you may have missed some recent dev blogs. Start with this one: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3012 . The tl;dr is that Hybrids just now got boosted - it would be mindbogglingly ******** to suggest they would perform well historically.
-Liang Looking for WH PVP corp.-á Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren Recruit me: http://wp.me/p1WQ0O-R |
Takeshi Yamato
ALA Biomedical
6
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Posted - 2011.12.02 21:08:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:Oh hey, final blows, from a weapons system known for a high rate of fire (and thus chances to get on that final blow) and ships that typically use them.
The dev who equated higher rate of fire to more killing blows is wrong. At least, attributing this large of a discrepancy to only higher rate of fire is wrong.
If you were to test different weapon systems with equal dps and different rates of fire against targets randomly varying amounts of hitpoints (HP equaling 20 to 1000 sec of dps or so), they would all end up with the same percentage of killing blows given enough test runs. In practice, there may be a slight advantage to higher rate of fire due to pods or ships that tend to get one volleyed, but it would never be this large of a difference. |
Xpaulusx
Hosti1e Traff1c Control
11
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Posted - 2011.12.02 22:15:00 -
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Mimmy are fine as is. No need to screw with them. |
Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2011.12.02 22:26:00 -
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Xpaulusx wrote:Mimmy are fine as is. No need to screw with them. you fly them we get it |
Hellsonfire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 22:41:00 -
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Naomi Knight wrote:Xpaulusx wrote:Mimmy are fine as is. No need to screw with them. you fly them we get it
And you clearly cant fly for ****, we clearly get that.
Go back to minecraft and stack some bricks kiddo. |
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Ultroth
Pretty Violent People P I R A T E S
2
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Posted - 2011.12.02 23:03:00 -
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There was a time when this was commonly seen in forum posts just like this one.....
M - Might A - Aswell T - Train A - Another R - Race
Now see this....
"It's better to to stay silent and appear stupid, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt!" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Surge Roth
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.03 07:49:00 -
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Naomi Knight wrote:Kiran wrote:I dont think they are over powered and I fly the Minmatar ships and been in fights against them.
If you want over powered I would say the Curse is, but you dont seem me coming here to cry about it. I try to figure ways round their strengths to hit them where it hurts.
The Tornado has the lowest EHP of the Tier 3 BC's and medium DPS compaired to the other Tier3's. I don't think thats over powered, I just think it gives me a challange when trying to fit it to gain from its strengths. omg another matard fanboy... how many are there ?:O
The WoW mentality is strong with this one. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
128
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Posted - 2011.12.03 09:21:00 -
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I want to point out that Dodixie is sold COMPLETELY out of Magnetic Field Stabilizer IIs. The price of a Proteus is up to 250M and most market regions are totally sold out.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2011.12.03 11:11:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:I want to point out that Dodixie is sold COMPLETELY out of Magnetic Field Stabilizer IIs. The price of a Proteus is up to 250M and most market regions are totally sold out.
-Liang hmm good ill move some from jita then after dt $.$ |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
130
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:22:00 -
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Naomi Knight wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:I want to point out that Dodixie is sold COMPLETELY out of Magnetic Field Stabilizer IIs. The price of a Proteus is up to 250M and most market regions are totally sold out.
-Liang hmm good ill move some from jita then after dt $.$
Thanks, I'm too lazy to fly that far and I really need more MFS for the 20 Deimos and Harpies I bought.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Zarnak Wulf
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
119
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Posted - 2011.12.03 19:35:00 -
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Zagam wrote:Actually, I mis-stated the OP's age... he was created 2007.04.21. As for him being older, I was created 2006.02.01.
Also, the intent of my post was not to get into an e-peen contest, but rather call the OP out for trolling (I'll have to upgrade their troll score to 4/10, for the sheer number of posts and real discussion).
I'm still waiting for Zagam to upgrade my troll score. This was from page three. |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:40:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:I want to point out that Dodixie is sold COMPLETELY out of Magnetic Field Stabilizer IIs. The price of a Proteus is up to 250M and most market regions are totally sold out.
-Liang It-¦s only to be expected that people want to try out the changes. As soon as they-¦re gotten their asses kicked as easily as before the "buff", that surge will stop. "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:43:00 -
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Hellsonfire wrote:Naomi Knight wrote:Xpaulusx wrote:Mimmy are fine as is. No need to screw with them. you fly them we get it And you clearly cant fly for ****, we clearly get that. Go back to minecraft and stack some bricks kiddo. If you don-¦t win 10 times out of 10 against a gallente subcap, you are the one that clearly can-¦t fly. "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
134
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Posted - 2011.12.04 03:11:00 -
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Sebastian N Cain wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:I want to point out that Dodixie is sold COMPLETELY out of Magnetic Field Stabilizer IIs. The price of a Proteus is up to 250M and most market regions are totally sold out.
-Liang It-¦s only to be expected that people want to try out the changes. As soon as they-¦re gotten their asses kicked as easily as before the "buff", that surge will stop.
TBH I'm beginning to think that Hybrids are OP. And yeah - I'm using them.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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m0cking bird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2011.12.04 04:45:00 -
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Hybrids are not overpowered. I'm hoping some in this thread are trolling . Anyway, their has been a significant change to hybrids. Rail-gun tended to be the only other option to artillery-cannon in ship classes not heavily bonused for their use.
For example; a Muninn has bonuses for using artillery, but most t1 Minmatar ships that are not specialised are able to use them. Most Amarr ships are not capable of this, because of the huge capacitor consumption of beam lasers. Rail-gun does not have that issue for the most part and now uses even less capacitor and power grid. How this translate into our current environment will be interesting.
All these set-ups below are a alternative to using artillery, but for Gallente ships to be viable in fleets. Medium Rail-gun will have no issues tracking ships destroyers and above @ around 12,000 meters and above. Minus some Cpu and power-grid issues on some ships. These set-ups are very viable. Again, a alternative to artillery-canon. Not to mention the utility of a large drone bay by all ships below. So yeah! Rail-guns are now significantly easier for most hybrid platforms to fit. Caldari hybrid ships are still pretty bad for the most part and I am speaking about the ships (bonuses, drones, damage or lack there of) and not the weapon system.
Brutix Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II
200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Valkyrie II x5
[Thorax, Overdrive Injector System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Warp Disruptor II
200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
[Deimos Overdrive Injector System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M [empty high slot]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I |
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