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Kate stark
914
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Posted - 2013.11.29 21:45:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:I don't know what's more stupid: The bottom tier trolls or that people are replying.
Anyway. Locking this thread will yield the same response from CCP as keeping it open.
but then we can open a new one because new threads wouldn't be duplicates as there's no open thread on the topic! Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1170
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Posted - 2013.11.29 21:46:00 -
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Wait, so you want to be told when a pause that may or may not be in effect on a group who may or may not be under this possibly over pause ends?
Oh and on items tgat you have bo information on whenthey were issued. Forgot to add that High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Kate stark
914
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Posted - 2013.11.29 21:50:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Wait, so you want to be told when a pause that may or may not be in effect on a group who may or may not be under this possibly over pause ends?
No.
I'm telling you that you cannot conclude the pause is over by the fact that somer received an in-game reward due to the fact that there's no evidence to suggest that they were part of the pause to begin with. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1994
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Posted - 2013.11.29 21:51:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:Anslo wrote: if you don't like it why don't you make something relevant enough to the community to garner a lot of support. Then maybe you'll get stuff to give away. I dislike the practice in general, so this argument does not apply to me. Try another? Also, this thread exists as far as I know as an attempt for community outreach/comments/opinions Stepping in at page 80 and telling people their comments/opinions (which was the purpose of the thread) do not matter, is just facepalmingly stupid.
Yeah, all those Nobel Science Awards for contributions to science, they're so unfair. Why can't someone who contributed nothing to science get one as well? It's not like it's some kind of incentive to contribute to science or anything. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA Apex.
52
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Posted - 2013.11.29 21:57:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Yeah, all those Nobel Science Awards for contributions to science, they're so unfair. Why can't someone who contributed nothing to science get one as well? It's not like it's some kind of incentive to contribute to science or anything.
Are you comparing a for-profit gambling website to a groundbreaking scientific contribution? And the special edition Battleships to a Nobel Prize?
Impressive.
Personally, I think the profit of running a successful gambling operation is it's own reward. I don't laud the people who run them. I don't hate them, either.
Certainly I do not think them worthy of any kind of additional reward. |
Kate stark
914
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:03:00 -
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It's irrelevant if we think somer are worthy of reward or not; the method in which they were rewarded is what the thread was spawned from. even if somer were the most benevolent group of players in the game; in-game assets are not a suitable way to reward players. When you are in the game there is an expectation that you're playing with people who have the same tools available to them that you do, not people who have the benevolent hand of ccp dropping things in to their back pocket. However that point has been discussed at length already.
We're just waiting for CCP to give us a survey to fill out. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA Apex.
52
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:10:00 -
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I propose limited edition memorabilia.
Miniature statues of ships, characters, or items, perhaps out of pewter. There are cheaper substrates as well.
T-shirts, clothing (kind of boring)
Signed posters (GIANT STARMAP?)
More in this vein. |
Kate stark
914
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:10:00 -
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yeah, we said all that about 70 pages ago. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
593
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:14:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
11. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a petition under the Community & Forums Category.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Kate stark
914
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:18:00 -
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ezwal, ever tried reading posts before you delete them? half of those you deleted didn't break any of those rules.
you know, the ones discussing whether somer were stopped from receiving in-game rewards or not, and the current status on the pause of such rewards. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2248
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:28:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:ezwal, ever tried reading posts before you delete them? half of those you deleted didn't break any of those rules.
you know, the ones discussing whether somer were stopped from receiving in-game rewards or not, and the current status on the pause of such rewards. I'll just assume my tinfoilhattery was too close to the truth and it triggered a tar-baby that sucked in all those unrelated posts. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
2360
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:32:00 -
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Sorry - cba to spend any time on these forums anymore due to Berlusconi'esque fashion CCP decided to handle this issue, but as this has been unstickied, I wondered if someone could point me to the new official thread with CCPs statement on their most significant misconduct to this date.
Thanks in advance. You know... morons. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3565
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Posted - 2013.11.30 01:22:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:ezwal, ever tried reading posts before you delete them? half of those you deleted didn't break any of those rules.
you know, the ones discussing whether somer were stopped from receiving in-game rewards or not, and the current status on the pause of such rewards. And that shows how much you matter :) biomass so that CCP can stop having to spend time dealing with whistle blowers and spend more time on developing the game.
Somber made a successful program. They got rewarded. You did nothing and got nothing.
DEAL WITT IT. EITHER MAKE SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO EARN THE REWARD TO GIVE OUT TO PEOPLE OR BIOMASS.
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Frying Doom
3411
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Posted - 2013.11.30 01:43:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Kate stark wrote:ezwal, ever tried reading posts before you delete them? half of those you deleted didn't break any of those rules.
you know, the ones discussing whether somer were stopped from receiving in-game rewards or not, and the current status on the pause of such rewards. And that shows how much you matter :) biomass so that CCP can stop having to spend time dealing with whistle blowers and spend more time on developing the game. Somber made a successful program. They got rewarded. You did nothing and got nothing. DEAL WITT IT. EITHER MAKE SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO EARN THE REWARD TO GIVE OUT TO PEOPLE OR BIOMASS. Yes they were rewarded in tens of thousands of dollars by a 'redacted' operation and are still being rewarded by being able to still break the EULA.
Your argument is like saying isk sellers do something for the community.
Maybe you should BIOMASS yourself for supporting a 'redacted' business. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.11.30 07:49:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Kate stark wrote:ezwal, ever tried reading posts before you delete them? half of those you deleted didn't break any of those rules.
you know, the ones discussing whether somer were stopped from receiving in-game rewards or not, and the current status on the pause of such rewards. And that shows how much you matter :) biomass so that CCP can stop having to spend time dealing with whistle blowers and spend more time on developing the game. Somber made a successful program. They got rewarded. You did nothing and got nothing. DEAL WITT IT. EITHER MAKE SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO EARN THE REWARD TO GIVE OUT TO PEOPLE OR BIOMASS.
wrong, it shows that volunteer ISDs are also human and make mistakes by deleting posts that don't break the rules.
you've still not read the thread have you? this has nothing to do with who was rewarded, and everything about how they were rewarded.
please read the thread before you "contribute" any more. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Frying Doom
3412
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Posted - 2013.11.30 08:35:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:Sorry - cba to spend any time on these forums anymore due to Berlusconi'esque fashion CCP decided to handle this issue, but as this has been unstickied, I wondered if someone could point me to the new official thread with CCPs statement on their most significant misconduct to this date.
Thanks in advance. Sorry all you will find is a post somewhere to say, they messed up and will pause the give away for the moment.
As to the Somer 'redacted' thing and the fact they are still in violation of the EULA, sorry no post about that. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
The Legendary Soldier
OreSum
331
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Posted - 2013.11.30 22:28:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Kate stark wrote:ezwal, ever tried reading posts before you delete them? half of those you deleted didn't break any of those rules.
you know, the ones discussing whether somer were stopped from receiving in-game rewards or not, and the current status on the pause of such rewards. And that shows how much you matter :) biomass so that CCP can stop having to spend time dealing with whistle blowers and spend more time on developing the game. Somber made a successful program. They got rewarded. You did nothing and got nothing. DEAL WITT IT. EITHER MAKE SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO EARN THE REWARD TO GIVE OUT TO PEOPLE OR BIOMASS.
How is the above not a rant? Need to place a high-sec POS? Premade corps for sale, or your corps standings boosted. Trading since January 2012. Many corps sold/boosted - see my thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63128&find=unread |
Kate stark
916
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Posted - 2013.12.01 08:25:00 -
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The Legendary Soldier wrote:How is the above not a rant?
i've actually had a forum ban before for telling some one to biomass themselves. it's a threat as well as a rant. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1179
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Posted - 2013.12.01 14:12:00 -
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Anslo wrote: And that shows how much you matter
Problem is, Im afraid by deleting my posts too they have pretty much said that anyone who defends their decision is also wrong.
While I havent magically decided to agree with Ms Kate, I am concerned about this turn of events High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.12.01 14:47:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote: And that shows how much you matter
Problem is, Im afraid by deleting my posts too they have pretty much said that anyone who defends their decision is also wrong. While I havent magically decided to agree with Ms Kate, I am concerned about this turn of events
I'm glad you haven't magically decided to agree with me. Without due discussion there can be no progress. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
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Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1182
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Posted - 2013.12.01 14:59:00 -
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Kate stark wrote: I'm glad you haven't magically decided to agree with me. Without due discussion there can be no progress.
My thoughts exactly High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Dark Magni
The Tuskers
56
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Posted - 2013.12.02 08:49:00 -
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is this some kind of joke? |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1187
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Posted - 2013.12.02 08:50:00 -
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I feel like Ive just had my stomach pumped High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2274
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Posted - 2013.12.02 09:19:00 -
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Dark Magni wrote:is this some kind of joke? If it is, it's not funny. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
2648
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Posted - 2013.12.02 12:03:00 -
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It's ok the ISD are here to clean the place up.
heh
heh
heh |
Brendan Anneto
Dread Phoenix Society Fidelas Constans
4
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Posted - 2013.12.02 12:58:00 -
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Forlorn Wongraven wrote:Jealous people killing a reward that CCP gives out to people who support the community. As far as the first somer lottery was concerned this was a mistake and CCP actually fixed it.
Also thanks, Guard!
Somer Blink does't support the community. They are a Third-Party for profit organisation that was created for the sole purpose of fattening their wallets. all they are is a gambling site. They do not support the community in any way shape or form, except by heping people blow their isk.
Proverbs 1:26-27 |
RAW23
569
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:01:00 -
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Isn't that Stratios that's been discussed on the last few pages just the same one that was the new prize after the Guardian Vexors etc were cancelled? If so, then why does anyone think CCP has 'unpaused' the declared pause in the rewards programme? There are two types of EVE player:
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not. |
Mra Rednu
Black Watch Guard
465
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:24:00 -
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Brendan Anneto wrote:Forlorn Wongraven wrote:Jealous people killing a reward that CCP gives out to people who support the community. As far as the first somer lottery was concerned this was a mistake and CCP actually fixed it.
Also thanks, Guard! Somer Blink does't support the community. They are a Third-Party for profit organisation that was created for the sole purpose of fattening their wallets. all they are is a gambling site. They do not support the community in any way shape or form, except by heping people blow their isk.
This, yet CCP is blind to it either intentionally or through stupidity. |
Kate stark
919
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:28:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote: If you are perceiving a problem with ISD behaviour on the forum or are disagreeing with the way (your) posts are being moderated, please feel free to read the CCP policies and follow the procedure found under the header 'Complaints'.
not to be rude, but you ISDs are irrelevant.
we're unable to get an answer to a worth while issue, do you really think you're relevant enough for ccp to investigate if we do have an issue with your moderation?
if you answered yes; stop kidding yourself. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
267
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Posted - 2013.12.03 05:07:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote: For the time being we are pausing all plans for rare in-game rewards to select third party contributors. We want to carefully consider your feedback and determine what our framework should be and what improvements to the level of transparency are needed so that the rewards program serves its intended purpose of making the EVE Universe a better place. WeGÇÖll also make prizes and rewards a summit topic when the CSM visits us this winter, as well as consult with them until that time. Some of this work has already started, and the result will be a formalized and transparent framework for everything related to supporting all types of fansites and third-party community services. We aim to circulate our initial design to the CSM in the next few days, and you should see a dev blog in a few weeks.
ThatGÇÖs it for now, let us know your thoughts.
I take it CCP has unpaused the plans for rare in-game rewards to select third party contributors. The worst bit is the Stratios Emergency Responder should never have been given out to these parties. The Ishukone Watch Scorpions at least were re-skined with worst stats than any other scorpions. The Strat Emergency Reponder has nearly twice better stats. So I have a few questions here.
Why was the way to obtain these ships not revealed to the player base prior to them being put in game? Why are select players being given ships that exceed the stats of the ship for which it is based off of?
I believe giving certain players stuff that is free and unique is fine but it must NOT be better than an item for which you can get in game by working at it. The emergency responder is better than the stratios and to be frank here that is a bit of an insult to the community. As I stated, if you wish to give somer blink or any other site rare-in game ships that are re-skinned that is fine with me; however, I have issue with the fact its stats are better. The stats on the Emergency Responder need to be adjusted to match those of the standard Stratios. |
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