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Aaron Tiberious
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.11 02:29:00 -
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So I've been on the game for about four months (which I've realized is a very short time), and it's actually my first MMO..I used to think I just didn't like MMOs until I discovered this game. And since I have very little experience in MMOs in general, I'd appreciate any good pointers on how to efficiently make money. I want to get in to some PvP stuff too, but I'm honestly afraid to until I get at last a cruiser or something, and I just feel like I'm making money very slowly. I've done mining, but I can't find any ores other than veldspar, I've tried a little exploration (using probes to find wormholes and going through them) but everything interesting I find is always guarded by ridiculously powerful drones that just obliterate me...So, I'd like to learn from the pros who have managed to make billions, how do you do it?? I've also been doing a lot of agent missions, and while I've had a ton of fun playing the game, some don't pay as well as others, and the ones that do pay well, I don't have the skill to do... |
Zappity
Kurved Space
512
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Posted - 2013.10.11 02:54:00 -
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This is how I earned my first 10b: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=280046
I have moved on since but region trading is perfectly viable for low SP and isk players.
Or run faction warfare missions and plexes if you don't like the market. Very good isk and PvP if you join a good noob-friendly corp.
Don't wait until cruisers before starting PvP. Come to lowsec in T1 frigates. You will die a lot if you do it right so start cheap. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Praxis Ginimic
Dark Knight Legion The Hydra Confederacy
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Posted - 2013.10.11 04:14:00 -
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Going it alone is tough. Get out of that starter corp and join a player corp. They will show you how to make good isk, bring you along on high lvl missions, obliterate the red exes for you in wh sites, take you to the good asteroids and most importantly show you why frig pvp is the best pvp.
You have been in the game for 4 months and haven't gotten out of frigates yet? What have you been training? If the answer is core skills then good for you but don't be afraid to spread the skill points out a little bit. It takes no time at all to train something 2 or 3. Then you can give it a shot and see if you like it.
Helpful links: Things to do in eve weapon systems flow chart ore chart tips for indy's from a pro Eve Fitting Tool EveMon skill planner battle clinic- for fitting ideas and kill boards eve central: a market tracker list of cosmic anomalies list of DED sites dotlan maps
There are lots more but that should get you started. Remember, google is your friend and youtube your savior. Welcome to EVE. |
Aaron Tiberious
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.11 04:28:00 -
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Oh no I've been in a catalyst for a good while now, and having a lot of luck with it...i can dominate in most lvl 1 story missions, (like security) but the game won't even let me play lvl 2... Yeah, I've been training core skills, got most of those up to like lvl 3-4...my biggest thing is I just don't even know everything there is to do in the game, and so for me money has been very slow. I'm liking these links though, they seem very helpful, and I do agree I probably need to join a noob-friendly corp. |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:54:00 -
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Keep in mind that ISK does not really mean that much in EVE. As long as you have enough ISK to cover what you want to do thats enough. Any more is more just bragging rights. It might seem slow to earn ISK now at the start, but this will change as your skills goes up, and you get a better understanding of what you can do to make ISK.
Insure your ships, sell what you dont need on the market, use frigs for PVP until your ISK income is more steady and you know what your doing and most importantly, dont obsess about your wallet!
Someone also mentioned a corp. This guide might help you when you feel ready to join one Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Zappity
Kurved Space
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Posted - 2013.10.11 09:01:00 -
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Oh, don't forget ninja looting and salvaging to get started. Great fun and good isk for a noob. Good experience for exploring too. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
J'Poll
Second Battlegroup Nerfed Alliance Go Away
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:05:00 -
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To give you an example about what NightCrawler said:
I've been in EVE for 3 (or 4 - lost track of time) years, yet my wallet barely goes over 150mil. Why, cause I dont need more ISK. Why do stuff to get ISK when you dont need it. I did that for a while but it got boring and useless. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Koki Ottic
Hitcher's
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:44:00 -
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Aaron Tiberious wrote:Oh no I've been in a catalyst for a good while now, and having a lot of luck with it...i can dominate in most lvl 1 story missions, (like security) but the game won't even let me play lvl 2... Yeah, I've been training core skills, got most of those up to like lvl 3-4...my biggest thing is I just don't even know everything there is to do in the game, and so for me money has been very slow. I'm liking these links though, they seem very helpful, and I do agree I probably need to join a noob-friendly corp.
Train connections |
Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1673
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:38:00 -
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Koki Ottic wrote:Aaron Tiberious wrote:Oh no I've been in a catalyst for a good while now, and having a lot of luck with it...i can dominate in most lvl 1 story missions, (like security) but the game won't even let me play lvl 2... Yeah, I've been training core skills, got most of those up to like lvl 3-4...my biggest thing is I just don't even know everything there is to do in the game, and so for me money has been very slow. I'm liking these links though, they seem very helpful, and I do agree I probably need to join a noob-friendly corp. Train connections, it's in the social skill group. The game mechanic works on a percentage increase and this unfortunately means you have to grind hard to move out of L1. But the skill connection give you a huge % increase so by training it up to you can get into L2 straight away and then upto to L3 missions quite fast.
Also, who're you trying to get standings with (and what TZ do you play)? I, or someone else, may just have you tag along on a L4 or two to bump those standings up a bit faster ... One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Praxis Ginimic
Dark Knight Legion The Hydra Confederacy
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:14:00 -
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J'Poll is right. Don't get too hung up on income. The closest I come to pve these days is melting down whatever I looted from the last wreck. I always seem to have enough to replace a lost cruiser and if I hit a good winning streak or the loot fairy smiles on me then I pick up a couple AF's. Its not about how much you make but what you want to buy. |
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Cara Forelli
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:05:00 -
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Aaron Tiberious wrote:the game won't even let me play lvl 2....
In addition to training the connections skill as was suggested, make sure you are running missions for agents of the same corporation. If you spread out and do missions for everyone it will take forever for your standings to increase with any given corporation to the point that you are allowed to do level 2s.
www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com |
Aaron Tiberious
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.12 02:55:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:Aaron Tiberious wrote:the game won't even let me play lvl 2.... In addition to training the connections skill as was suggested, make sure you are running missions for agents of the same corporation. If you spread out and do missions for everyone it will take forever for your standings to increase with any given corporation to the point that you are allowed to do level 2s.
Wouldn't have thought of that, that's very good advice. I also ventured through a wormhole and found some VERY valuable ore, but some sleeper drones spawned while I was mining it and destroyed my venture...thinking of getting an industrial ship to venture out in to wormholes and collect some ore..if that will work, haven't experimented with that yet. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
bad touches
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Posted - 2013.10.12 07:47:00 -
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Aaron Tiberious wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:Aaron Tiberious wrote:the game won't even let me play lvl 2.... In addition to training the connections skill as was suggested, make sure you are running missions for agents of the same corporation. If you spread out and do missions for everyone it will take forever for your standings to increase with any given corporation to the point that you are allowed to do level 2s. Wouldn't have thought of that, that's very good advice. I also ventured through a wormhole and found some VERY valuable ore, but some sleeper drones spawned while I was mining it and destroyed my venture...thinking of getting an industrial ship to venture out in to wormholes and collect some ore..if that will work, haven't experimented with that yet.
As much as whs need people for target practice, this is the New Citizens forum and I can unequivocally say bringing any industrial ship to mine in a wh, especially one you don't live in, is a very bad idea. Mining in whs is a bad idea in itself. If you want to mine anything in a wh, use a Venture and mine gas sites. The gas sites have to be scanned down, which already makes them a little safer than the ore sites. For each gas site you need to look up the price of the gas on eve-central.com. Sites will have 1 crappy cloud of gas and one good one. You will still have to do something about the sleepers that spawn though.
It seems like after 4 mo you should be able to fly a battlecruiser fit with T1, not still be in a destroyer. You should also be able to access level 3 agents at least. Not too sure how to fix those problems. You definitely need to find an in-game mentor to help you out. Hey CCP, please slush my fund like you did for SOMER Blink. |
Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1677
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Posted - 2013.10.12 10:48:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Aaron Tiberious wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:Aaron Tiberious wrote:the game won't even let me play lvl 2.... In addition to training the connections skill as was suggested, make sure you are running missions for agents of the same corporation. If you spread out and do missions for everyone it will take forever for your standings to increase with any given corporation to the point that you are allowed to do level 2s. Wouldn't have thought of that, that's very good advice. I also ventured through a wormhole and found some VERY valuable ore, but some sleeper drones spawned while I was mining it and destroyed my venture...thinking of getting an industrial ship to venture out in to wormholes and collect some ore..if that will work, haven't experimented with that yet. As much as whs need people for target practice, this is the New Citizens forum and I can unequivocally say bringing any industrial ship to mine in a wh, especially one you don't live in, is a very bad idea. Mining in whs is a bad idea in itself. If you want to mine anything in a wh, use a Venture and mine gas sites. The gas sites have to be scanned down, which already makes them a little safer than the ore sites. For each gas site you need to look up the price of the gas on eve-central.com. Sites will have 1 crappy cloud of gas and one good one. You will still have to do something about the sleepers that spawn though. It seems like after 4 mo you should be able to fly a battlecruiser fit with T1, not still be in a destroyer. You should also be able to access level 3 agents at least. Not too sure how to fix those problems. You definitely need to find an in-game mentor to help you out.
They did change the skill tree a bit for the ships (so i don't think you can blitz quite as fast to a BC), and TBH it's better that he's staying in a smaller ship and getting his core skills up rather than going the normal "bigger is better" route that people take and then crying why his (minimum skills across the board) battleship is terrible.
Edit - just checked with a base noob character (evemon generated) and it appears you can blitz the hull in ~2 days ... although you'd still be terrible in it. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Peri Simone
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
106
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:12:00 -
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Aaron Tiberious wrote:I want to get in to some PvP stuff too, but I'm honestly afraid to until I get at last a cruiser or something
In addition to the good advice above, I'd add that you're probably better off beginning PvP in a cheap frigate. Unless you're some sort of naturally gifted savant you're likely to lose a whole bunch of ships early on (and later on, to be honest).
A lot of PvP is about knowing what you can and can't engage and in what circumstances, and these lessons can be learnt just as easily in a throwaway frigate than a pimped out cruiser.
Good luck! |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
366
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:59:00 -
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I'm pretty sure level one missions only exist in the game to weed out players who don't ask/look for advice. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
Ral Ort Tal
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.13 07:03:00 -
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L1 missions are some of the best in the game with very varied objectives, nice backstories, and extra game tips in the briefing. I pity the noob who skips them just to get to the soul-crushing grind of "Go there, kill everything" faster. |
Zappity
Kurved Space
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Posted - 2013.10.13 07:05:00 -
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Ral Ort Tal wrote:L1 missions are some of the best in the game with very varied objectives, nice backstories, and extra game tips in the briefing. I pity the noob who skips them just to get to the soul-crushing grind of "Go there, kill everything" faster.
Bugger me, I'm glad I never made it to Level 2 missions then. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Cara Forelli
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.13 07:05:00 -
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Eram Fidard wrote:I'm pretty sure level one missions only exist in the game to weed out players who don't ask/look for advice.
And here he is. Asking. In the correct forum. www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com |
Rammix
TheMurk
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:04:00 -
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Here is one way (there are plenty of others, I'll just tell what worked well for me). It's a mission runner way at the start.
To make a full picture I'll start from the start and will speak as if you were a 1-day old character. Through agent finder find npc corporations which have agents of 1-4 level, choose nearest to you (if you're going to do missions of your own faction). Start doing missions of the level available to you which you can do well enough. While doing missions learn to fit your ships. When agents of the next level in the same npc corporation become available to you, switch to one of them. Do missions. Continue going up level by level until you reach the 4th level. It's the most profitable mission level available in high security space. To do most (or all - later with good skills) 4th level missions you'll need to fly battleships or Tech 3 cruisers. I think battleships are more preferable for an unexperienced pilot. Some 4th level missions can be done on a battlecruiser, some - even on a frigate. When you'll be able to do 4th level missions well you can either stay in highsec to continue with missions, or you can go elsewhere (lowsec, nullsec, 2-4 class wormholes). Whatever area you choose at this point you should find a good newbie-friendly corporation which lives in your chosen area.
I advise not to go into any corporation when you just started playing. Spend minimum couple of weeks playing on your own - you'll have time to get a better understanding of game mechanics and formulate what you expect from a corp you'd want to be in. Otherwise you risk to get in a sh*tty corp and get disappointed. I found my first corp (it found me, actually) after several days in eve and it was a nice newbie-friendly corp with good people, but I just was very lucky. It's better not to rush into any corp in the first weeks in eve. When you fly battlecruisers and battleships, can fit some Tech 2 modules, and can do 4th level missions - you are able to feel yourself comfortable in any area of EVE. Of course you'll still have a lot to learn, but you won't feel yourself absolutely useless no matter where you go.
One more point towards a "mission-runner" start: when you have at least relatively good standings with npc agents to do 4th level missions, if you fail in whatever place you go - you'll always have a place to return to and a source of isk. OpenSUSE 12.2, wine 1.5 |
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