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Naomi Anthar
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:36:00 -
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So basically i got quiet big problem. And it is a bit wall of text incoming. Sorry for my so-so english in advance.
Yes it is big problem.
So here is story:
I was deplexing one system with dragoon , hopefully looking for fight aswell. And the opportunity arised - other dragoon - neutral one did appear and i took the fight. It was close fight , but then when we both were close to dying ... suddenly i see keres on d-scan aswell. Of course i did recall my drones and just left - thankfully it was me who sucked other dragoon. I was right they were from one alliance/corp.
After that i left - not mad at all - as my ship was still alive. I said it could be good fight , even fight with equall ships and probably similar fits there. Then i said : but keres had to come and interrupt. A bit disapointed i said also"you fags". But thats it i left minding my own bussines to repair ship and find other stuff to do.
Yes this is important part of all that ... nothing else. completly nothing else offensive was said there. And i got logs to prove it. Suddenly the keres pilot - obiviously disapointed that their terribad trap did not work out there - said "it deserves to be reported". I was like - ok it's not like i was harrassing them 24/7 or went full ****** ... all i said was "you fags". Sure it was offensive , but it's EvE online not My little pony online. Words like that do appear , and noone cries around about it.
Then ... that guy did mail me asking for "apologize" ... i did not take a bait here. I did not started swearing on him. I'm not that stupid. I told him that in this game - he may hear randomly words like that time to time. And he shouldn't take those too seriously. Especially that it was single word not followed by any other harrasement out there. I basically told him to report me - because if he takes single "you fags" so serious he needs to make report - then by all means he needs to do so and he will need to do this VERY OFTEN IN THIS GAME. Report many people no doubt.
Let's be honest ... it's not like i did worst thing in this game. Sure i wasnt particulary nice here - but wasnt THAT BAD. Essentialy in fair fights even when i lose i say gf and i don't offend my opponent. I'm sure my opponents can confirm that. Sometimes when you get blobbed you can get little upset. I wasn't even mad at all - as i said i never lost ship there. I was more disapointed that this nice fight was interrupted.
NOW what happens then is a diffrent story. VERY Quickly i get message from GM Rust that i violated EULA 6.c and other stuff. No log to what i said exactly - but i figured out it's about that terribly offensive word exchange with "you fags". He warned me and claimed that i will get banned if i will do this again.
I do agree it could be against EULA ... and honestly i won't do this anymore. But really ? They threat me to cancel my account for saying "you fags" ?? It's not like there wasn't worse words in diffrent channels out there more than once per 5 minutes all day long.
Now don't get me wrong - if i went full ****** and swear this guy hard, his parents. I would understand , damn i would even be sorry after all. This is not how i should behave as mature person. But all it was random "screw you" like saying ("you fags"). more offensive , but nothing personal - just "badass" saying in internet.
I was very worried ... that they go straight and fast to me with saying that i may get banned for that. Especially that it's my first warning. So i petitioned ... not the fact that i violated EULA - but the fact that it's not THAT hard violation of game rules to get such fast and brutal attention from GM. I would understand if GM told me to calm down and behave or else they will have to deal with me. But going straight to threat me with permanent ban for saying "you fags" ?
I think it's big ... not because it's my account. I hear words like that all the time in diffrent channels - starting with corp/alliance/miltia/ local. Noone reports anyone for this. Yet here i'm victim.
I was planning to play World Of Darkness CCP game ... but here i'm not sure anymore. Maybe it will be like EvE - Ponies and Friends online.
I do think that people should behave. I'm not ideal myself. But it should be kept in mind that in CCP games - you will not hear only "i love you" "thank you for fantastic fight friends, even tho you 1 vs 100 me" phrases. Going straight to warn players that often invested hella lot of time into this game to cancel his account , because they said "you fags" is going too far.
GMs calm down ...
I admit i could be more cool myself more often aswell. But goddamit with that threat to ban permanently account ....
And i got another message from GM with same message. Give me a break guys - start chasing out abusers , RMTers and other more problematic people. |
jackncoke
Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:42:00 -
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This is getting pretty stupid pretty fast.
People have started using TOS as means of griefing and GMs are falling for it, |
Matthew97
Dat Tax
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:42:00 -
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[quote=Naomi Anthar]*Snip*[quote]
TL;DR I said something bad and got a GM Warning about it.
I can see how this was offensive due to the nature of what it can refer to in certain locations, especially with whats going on now a days. TBH I do agree with the GM in this instance :/ However I can also agree that in other cases GM's have gone a bit to far in reading into things that aren't there. Run level 4 missions? Don't want to salvage? Let us salvage for you, and then pay you for it! -áJoin our Channel: Pro Synergy
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Mra Rednu
Black Watch Guard
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:43:00 -
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Some people get butthurt over silly things, just learn to troll better in the future. |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire
2500
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:43:00 -
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What a terrible thing to say to people.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2094
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:43:00 -
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Massive overreaction from the GM if this is true. Escalate the matter to their superior.
If that doesn't work, tell them they're a bunch of cunts and unsub. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Jove Death
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:44:00 -
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I can see a lock comming in here as your discussing matters seperatly with a gm notification.
However Im not sure that what you actually said is worth a threat unless u accidently called the person "a ***" and is actually homosexual which you totally ran out of luck there.
TBH name calling can be linked to bullying as chars or a person may take offence to this. They have the right if they feel this is wrong to report you.
However, The amount of name calling or words expressed in game can be classed as rude or bullying. If CCP banned everyone that swore or name called or mentioned any reference to being a homosexual I dont think any one would be actually playing EvE.
Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek
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Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire
2500
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:46:00 -
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Jove Death wrote:I can see a lock comming in here as your discussing matters seperatly with a gm notification.
However Im not sure that what you actually said is worth a threat unless u accidently called the person "a ***" and is actually homosexual which you totally ran out of luck there.
TBH name calling can be linked to bullying as chars or a person may take offence to this. They have the right if they feel this is wrong to report you.
However, The amount of name calling or words expressed in game can be classed as rude or bullying. If CCP banned everyone that swore or name called or mentioned any reference to being a homosexual I dont think any one would be actually playing EvE.
That is true...
If they went through my inbox they would be banning a lot of people... "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
854
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:46:00 -
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Its the same when I call you a proper ****. If I would be from Australia that could be a compliment....you will never know...
Edit:Omg seriously CCP?? How are Australians able to express their positive feelings toward another person in here if you censor than word...
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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RaTTuS
BIG Insidious Empire
338
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:46:00 -
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if you think a line could be offensive [and that one is] don't use it... it's probably worth just putting "I love you" in place of any term in local ...
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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
165
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:48:00 -
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If OP's story is remotely accurate then OP deserves an apology from at least 2 sets of people. Either that all every system i have entered in eve (bar wh's and ones with no other occupants) contains players CCP wish to threaten with bans.
edit.
Also OP claim your knowledge of english has limited you to only the following meanings of "***"
1. a. A student at a British public school who is required to perform menial tasks for a student in a higher class. b. A drudge.
2. A cigarette. |
Yuix Grislin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:49:00 -
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You used an offensive homophobic word in a public channel.
It would have been the same had you used a racist word.
The GM acted appropriatly and you absolutly deserve your warning.
If you want to talk like that do it in a private channel where by passers don;t have to hear it.
EDIT: And your an idiot for posting this on GD. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
635
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:49:00 -
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Attention seeker gets attention from BS post
If this was true it would have been locked already
Yawn snore lies "Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
Mra Rednu
Black Watch Guard
396
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:51:00 -
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Jove Death wrote:I can see a lock comming in here as your discussing matters seperatly with a gm notification.
However Im not sure that what you actually said is worth a threat unless u accidently called the person "a ***" and is actually homosexual which you totally ran out of luck there.
TBH name calling can be linked to bullying as chars or a person may take offence to this. They have the right if they feel this is wrong to report you.
However, The amount of name calling or words expressed in game can be classed as rude or bullying. If CCP banned everyone that swore or name called or mentioned any reference to being a homosexual I dont think any one would be actually playing EvE.
But you really think they took offence at being called fags or just butthurt the target was smart enough to get out as the Keres came in ?
At times the GM's really just got to tell people to HTFU about name calling, sure if it was getting racist or really abusive then give them a warning but just calling someone a *** when in ths case it was obvious it not even used in context of them actually being gay.
Besides if they were homosexual and were called fags would they take offence at that ? it is a widely used term and none of the gay people that I do know take offence and even use the term themselves. |
Naomi Anthar
140
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:52:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote:If OP's story is remotely accurate then OP deserves an apology from at least 2 sets of people. Either that all every system i have entered in eve (bar wh's and ones with no other occupants) contains players CCP wish to threaten with bans.
edit.
Also OP claim your knowledge of english has limited you to only the following meanings of "***"
1. a. A student at a British public school who is required to perform menial tasks for a student in a higher class. b. A drudge.
2. A cigarette.
Thank you mate ... that was exactly what i said in local :DDDD. Thats what i was thinking about - a cigarette. Seems like smoking is prohibited in this game - ban me ;). |
Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2094
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:58:00 -
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Jove Death wrote: However Im not sure that what you actually said is worth a threat unless u accidently called the person "a ***" and is actually homosexual which you totally ran out of luck there.
Doesn't make any difference whether they were gay or not. Are you saying I can't call gay people f*gs, but it's perfectly acceptable to call anyone else a f*g? You realize that is the very definition of prejudice?
F*g, has a lot of meanings in a lot of different languages. As a Brit, I can think of at least three off the top of my head. And when most people call someone a f*g, what they really mean, is wimp. The game already says, that online content is not rated, for this reason specifically.
Besides, they reported the OP with the intention of griefing. They don't actually give a **** that they were called f*gs. The people who reported them, and the GM who responded need to Harden The **** Up. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Maximilian Akora
It's just business.
60
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:02:00 -
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What are the chances the OP described what happened 100% truthfully and not at all omitting other, more damaging, statements and/or conveniently left out parts of the story that wouldn't really help his case.
Yeah. |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
477
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:04:00 -
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Mra Rednu wrote: But you really think they took offence at being called fags or just butthurt the target was smart enough to get out as the Keres came in ?
At times the GM's really just got to tell people to HTFU about name calling, sure if it was getting racist or really abusive then give them a warning but just calling someone a *** when in ths case it was obvious it not even used in context of them actually being gay.
Besides if they were homosexual and were called fags would they take offence at that ? it is a widely used term and none of the gay people that I do know take offence and even use the term themselves.
Wait...so, racist terms would be bad, but homophobic ones are not? And can I use racist terms if I then go "The people of X race that I know do not find it offensive and even use it themselves? |
Naomi Anthar
141
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:07:00 -
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Maximilian Akora wrote:What are the chances the OP described what happened 100% truthfully and not at all omitting other, more damaging, statements and/or conveniently left out parts of the story that wouldn't really help his case.
Yeah.
And why not ? I'm not banned. I'm just shocked a bit by GMs reaction ? I'm trying to warn you - so you are not getting banned yourself for one little word.
It's general discussion and we generally discuss if GMs should be so serious about such things or they should just talk to player that he should improve or they will do somthing about it. Going straight with warning to permanently ban account is a bit much. |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1512
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:07:00 -
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Matthew97 wrote:Naomi Anthar wrote:*Snip* TL;DR I said something bad and got a GM Warning about it. I can see how this was offensive due to the nature of what it can refer to in certain locations, especially with whats going on now a days. TBH I do agree with the GM in this instance :/ However I can also agree that in other cases GM's have gone a bit to far in reading into things that aren't there.
If what he said is enough for that then i'd say it's fair to throw out over half of the playerbase.Could start with the nullplayers as a whole because i see stuff WAY worse then that on a daily base.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Naomi Anthar
141
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:08:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:Mra Rednu wrote: But you really think they took offence at being called fags or just butthurt the target was smart enough to get out as the Keres came in ?
At times the GM's really just got to tell people to HTFU about name calling, sure if it was getting racist or really abusive then give them a warning but just calling someone a *** when in ths case it was obvious it not even used in context of them actually being gay.
Besides if they were homosexual and were called fags would they take offence at that ? it is a widely used term and none of the gay people that I do know take offence and even use the term themselves.
Wait...so, racist terms would be bad, but homophobic ones are not? And can I use racist terms if I then go "The people of X race that I know do not find it offensive and even use it themselves?
Because basically most of people saying "***" are not homophobs in fact. It's just become random badass word that people use in diffrent contest - usually fully aware that noone is homosexual around ? Really stop being so sensitive ... |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
635
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:10:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Maximilian Akora wrote:What are the chances the OP described what happened 100% truthfully and not at all omitting other, more damaging, statements and/or conveniently left out parts of the story that wouldn't really help his case.
Yeah. And why not ? I'm not banned. I'm just shocked a bit by GMs reaction ? I'm trying to warn you - so you are not getting banned yourself for one little word. It's general discussion and we generally discuss if GMs should be so serious about such things or they should just talk to player that he should improve or they will do somthing about it. Going straight with warning to permanently ban account is a bit much.
Thats why we are callin you a liar
In that you are lying
We are saying it did not happen as you describe
Pics or logs or whatever or it didnt happen
You saavy? "Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Secunda
535
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:21:00 -
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The gm was WRONG to admonish you as he did. This sort of reaction is only appropriate for protracted abuse I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
Chance Harper
Northen Star Corporation
10
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:25:00 -
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Yuix Grislin wrote:You used an offensive homophobic word in a public channel.
It would have been the same had you used a racist word.
The GM acted appropriatly and you absolutly deserve your warning.
If you want to talk like that do it in a private channel where by passers don;t have to hear it.
EDIT: And your an idiot for posting this on GD.
exactly this!
and @OP next time just say "coward" cuz that would have been a more fitting word for the described situation. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
861
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:26:00 -
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Yuix Grislin wrote:You used an offensive homophobic word in a public channel.
It would have been the same had you used a racist word.
The GM acted appropriatly and you absolutly deserve your warning.
If you want to talk like that do it in a private channel where by passers don;t have to hear it.
EDIT: And your an idiot for posting this on GD.
I also fully agree with Yuix here.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Prince Kobol
1039
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:27:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:So basically i got quiet big problem. And it is a bit wall of text incoming. Sorry for my so-so english in advance.
Yes it is big problem.
So here is story:
I was deplexing one system with dragoon , hopefully looking for fight aswell. And the opportunity arised - other dragoon - neutral one did appear and i took the fight. It was close fight , but then when we both were close to dying ... suddenly i see keres on d-scan aswell. Of course i did recall my drones and just left - thankfully it was me who sucked other dragoon. I was right they were from one alliance/corp.
After that i left - not mad at all - as my ship was still alive. I said it could be good fight , even fight with equall ships and probably similar fits there. Then i said : but keres had to come and interrupt. A bit disapointed i said also"you fags". But thats it i left minding my own bussines to repair ship and find other stuff to do.
Yes this is important part of all that ... nothing else. completly nothing else offensive was said there. And i got logs to prove it. Suddenly the keres pilot - obiviously disapointed that their terribad trap did not work out there - said "it deserves to be reported". I was like - ok it's not like i was harrassing them 24/7 or went full ****** ... all i said was "you fags". Sure it was offensive , but it's EvE online not My little pony online. Words like that do appear , and noone cries around about it.
Then ... that guy did mail me asking for "apologize" ... i did not take a bait here. I did not started swearing on him. I'm not that stupid. I told him that in this game - he may hear randomly words like that time to time. And he shouldn't take those too seriously. Especially that it was single word not followed by any other harrasement out there. I basically told him to report me - because if he takes single "you fags" so serious he needs to make report - then by all means he needs to do so and he will need to do this VERY OFTEN IN THIS GAME. Report many people no doubt.
Let's be honest ... it's not like i did worst thing in this game. Sure i wasnt particulary nice here - but wasnt THAT BAD. Essentialy in fair fights even when i lose i say gf and i don't offend my opponent. I'm sure my opponents can confirm that. Sometimes when you get blobbed you can get little upset. I wasn't even mad at all - as i said i never lost ship there. I was more disapointed that this nice fight was interrupted.
NOW what happens then is a diffrent story. VERY Quickly i get message from GM Rust that i violated EULA 6.c and other stuff. No log to what i said exactly - but i figured out it's about that terribly offensive word exchange with "you fags". He warned me and claimed that i will get banned if i will do this again.
I do agree it could be against EULA ... and honestly i won't do this anymore. But really ? They threat me to cancel my account for saying "you fags" ?? It's not like there wasn't worse words in diffrent channels out there more than once per 5 minutes all day long.
Now don't get me wrong - if i went full ****** and swear this guy hard, his parents. I would understand , damn i would even be sorry after all. This is not how i should behave as mature person. But all it was random "screw you" like saying ("you fags"). more offensive , but nothing personal - just "badass" saying in internet.
I was very worried ... that they go straight and fast to me with saying that i may get banned for that. Especially that it's my first warning. So i petitioned ... not the fact that i violated EULA - but the fact that it's not THAT hard violation of game rules to get such fast and brutal attention from GM. I would understand if GM told me to calm down and behave or else they will have to deal with me. But going straight to threat me with permanent ban for saying "you fags" ?
I think it's big ... not because it's my account. I hear words like that all the time in diffrent channels - starting with corp/alliance/miltia/ local. Noone reports anyone for this. Yet here i'm victim.
I was planning to play World Of Darkness CCP game ... but here i'm not sure anymore. Maybe it will be like EvE - Ponies and Friends online.
I do think that people should behave. I'm not ideal myself. But it should be kept in mind that in CCP games - you will not hear only "i love you" "thank you for fantastic fight friends, even tho you 1 vs 100 me" phrases. Going straight to warn players that often invested hella lot of time into this game to cancel his account , because they said "you fags" is going too far.
GMs calm down ...
I admit i could be more cool myself more often aswell. But goddamit with that threat to ban permanently account ....
And i got another message from GM with same message. Give me a break guys - start chasing out abusers , RMTers and other more problematic people.
So let me get this straight..
You call somebody a name that you admit is not nice and then complain that you get a warning about said word that you admit is not nice? |
Naomi Anthar
141
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:28:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Naomi Anthar wrote:Maximilian Akora wrote:What are the chances the OP described what happened 100% truthfully and not at all omitting other, more damaging, statements and/or conveniently left out parts of the story that wouldn't really help his case.
Yeah. And why not ? I'm not banned. I'm just shocked a bit by GMs reaction ? I'm trying to warn you - so you are not getting banned yourself for one little word. It's general discussion and we generally discuss if GMs should be so serious about such things or they should just talk to player that he should improve or they will do somthing about it. Going straight with warning to permanently ban account is a bit much. Thats why we are callin you a liar In that you are lying We are saying it did not happen as you describe Pics or logs or whatever or it didnt happen You saavy?
I said i got logs , i said it happend. But yet i never said who reported me . Why ? Because i did not get banned ... i dont want to harass this guy. If i would post who did this i would not be better than him. I don't go with tears to mom if something bad happens. I'm here to discuss overral state of GMs attitude toward situation like this.
Don't make it as my personal case. It could happend to anyone. As many already claimed i'm not the only one who said such words in this game in local. Read this topic please. It's my warning to others - what people can do for one single bad word out there.
If you don't want believe me - by all means don't. It's internet - people lie and make up stories all the time. And logs can be make up aswell...
I hope this story will really make people alert how easy they can lose thier account. And hopefully noone will for thing like that. BUT BE WARNED. |
Naomi Anthar
141
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:32:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Naomi Anthar wrote:So basically i got quiet big problem. And it is a bit wall of text incoming. Sorry for my so-so english in advance.
Yes it is big problem.
So here is story:
I was deplexing one system with dragoon , hopefully looking for fight aswell. And the opportunity arised - other dragoon - neutral one did appear and i took the fight. It was close fight , but then when we both were close to dying ... suddenly i see keres on d-scan aswell. Of course i did recall my drones and just left - thankfully it was me who sucked other dragoon. I was right they were from one alliance/corp.
After that i left - not mad at all - as my ship was still alive. I said it could be good fight , even fight with equall ships and probably similar fits there. Then i said : but keres had to come and interrupt. A bit disapointed i said also"you fags". But thats it i left minding my own bussines to repair ship and find other stuff to do.
Yes this is important part of all that ... nothing else. completly nothing else offensive was said there. And i got logs to prove it. Suddenly the keres pilot - obiviously disapointed that their terribad trap did not work out there - said "it deserves to be reported". I was like - ok it's not like i was harrassing them 24/7 or went full ****** ... all i said was "you fags". Sure it was offensive , but it's EvE online not My little pony online. Words like that do appear , and noone cries around about it.
Then ... that guy did mail me asking for "apologize" ... i did not take a bait here. I did not started swearing on him. I'm not that stupid. I told him that in this game - he may hear randomly words like that time to time. And he shouldn't take those too seriously. Especially that it was single word not followed by any other harrasement out there. I basically told him to report me - because if he takes single "you fags" so serious he needs to make report - then by all means he needs to do so and he will need to do this VERY OFTEN IN THIS GAME. Report many people no doubt.
Let's be honest ... it's not like i did worst thing in this game. Sure i wasnt particulary nice here - but wasnt THAT BAD. Essentialy in fair fights even when i lose i say gf and i don't offend my opponent. I'm sure my opponents can confirm that. Sometimes when you get blobbed you can get little upset. I wasn't even mad at all - as i said i never lost ship there. I was more disapointed that this nice fight was interrupted.
NOW what happens then is a diffrent story. VERY Quickly i get message from GM Rust that i violated EULA 6.c and other stuff. No log to what i said exactly - but i figured out it's about that terribly offensive word exchange with "you fags". He warned me and claimed that i will get banned if i will do this again.
I do agree it could be against EULA ... and honestly i won't do this anymore. But really ? They threat me to cancel my account for saying "you fags" ?? It's not like there wasn't worse words in diffrent channels out there more than once per 5 minutes all day long.
Now don't get me wrong - if i went full ****** and swear this guy hard, his parents. I would understand , damn i would even be sorry after all. This is not how i should behave as mature person. But all it was random "screw you" like saying ("you fags"). more offensive , but nothing personal - just "badass" saying in internet.
I was very worried ... that they go straight and fast to me with saying that i may get banned for that. Especially that it's my first warning. So i petitioned ... not the fact that i violated EULA - but the fact that it's not THAT hard violation of game rules to get such fast and brutal attention from GM. I would understand if GM told me to calm down and behave or else they will have to deal with me. But going straight to threat me with permanent ban for saying "you fags" ?
I think it's big ... not because it's my account. I hear words like that all the time in diffrent channels - starting with corp/alliance/miltia/ local. Noone reports anyone for this. Yet here i'm victim.
I was planning to play World Of Darkness CCP game ... but here i'm not sure anymore. Maybe it will be like EvE - Ponies and Friends online.
I do think that people should behave. I'm not ideal myself. But it should be kept in mind that in CCP games - you will not hear only "i love you" "thank you for fantastic fight friends, even tho you 1 vs 100 me" phrases. Going straight to warn players that often invested hella lot of time into this game to cancel his account , because they said "you fags" is going too far.
GMs calm down ...
I admit i could be more cool myself more often aswell. But goddamit with that threat to ban permanently account ....
And i got another message from GM with same message. Give me a break guys - start chasing out abusers , RMTers and other more problematic people. So let me get this straight.. You call somebody a name that you admit is not nice and then complain that you get a warning about said word that you admit is not nice?
Yes as it happens every 10 seconds in this game and i dont see reports going on. Don't be stupid mate , please don't . If they would kill my dragoon out there , there would be no report - hell they would even go with "you mad bro?" in local... if you cannot figure out they are griefers ... then sorry. They couldnt kill my ship , so they try to hit my account. One way or another they are hatters there - not me. |
Charles Panzram
State War Academy Caldari State
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OP behaved naughty in a public channel, got caught, got scolded for it and now cries about it. This sounds like my 10 year old nephew.
People received warnings for calling someone a jew in local. It-¦s within the GM`s range of rights so what are you crying about? You got a warning no ban, big deal, so HTFU and get over it yourself instead of crying about it like a baby.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:36:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote: people lie and make up stories all the time. And logs can be make up aswell...
I hope this story will really make people alert how easy they can lose thier account. And hopefully noone will for thing like that. BUT BE WARNED.
But you admit you DIDNT lose your account
So how does this story warn that they will?
Sounds like more CCP bashing to me
Because basically most of the people saying "liar" are not Naomiophobs in fact.
It's just the word that people use to call you out on your BS
Really stop being so needy "Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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