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Isis Dea
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.13 22:52:00 -
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(Could not find a topic on brainstorming captains quarters improves/character customization/lore integration and after posting some of these ideas in a few other topics, decided to bring them here. Now with a few more ideas included:)
DISCLAIMER: EVE is forever a game of internet spaceships. And thanks to CCP those spaceships have gotten better and better, balanced, and fixed. With much more to come, time-dilation has in many ways fixed server stability from when Incarna first came out. They've done an amazing job catering to starships and fixing issues. Nine years playing and forever a PvPer, I can vouch.
But what they haven't catered very hugely to has been the players' characters mingling in the overall world:
Nine years and there's still a wall between the players and the massive lore-filled world that is EVE Online. In fact, there's been a decline of the characters' ability to express their uniqueness since Incarna's new character editor, especially within key racial features.
Yet we were finally able to venture outside the capsule. However, we're never allowed to show face beyond the captains quarters. The door leading out has always been the bane of internet spaceships' existence and so we've not prospected beyond.
Would love to set the mood toward expanding (slowly) into revisiting the world beyond the capsule, especially now that EVE Online truly is in a better place since Incarna. Would love to see other players' opinions and their own ideas yet also the critique of if these ideas will take away from the game.
PROPOSED IDEAS (will remove or add with enough feedback, bare in mind there are possibly topics already out there for certain ideas. Be sure to check the Rules of this forum for a list):
1. More character customization. Specifically toward the differences of the other races. (As in more wartat options with Minmatar, skimpier wear with Gallente, etc.) Would be interesting if included sub-racial exclusive items. (Khanid Cyberknight wear, Brutor deactivated slave collars.)
1a. Ability to sell racial specific customization items (provided within LP stores) to other races.
1b. Drug-induced/over-use appearance effects. (Would imagine in a menu following "Scars")
2. Ability to interact and get to know NPCs would be nice. (Such interviewing assets of missions, such as the militants you just scooped, the damsel, the freedom fighter. -could possibly open doors for alternative mission ending options, where instead of completing the mission for your corporation, you cater to another questionable party. [Could allow a slow building of standings toward other factions/corporations while taking a {skill modified} hit to your own corp's.])
2a. Ability to interact with your agents face-to-face, especially if from a place of dominance and fear-inducing. In time with enough standing, you could modify this reception to something more friendly.
3. Ability to assign passengers to your captains quarters. (They would come with assorted props and would change various places around the captain's quarters with each visit.)
4. Ability to further customize planets you've set up base on, even having standings with that world. Some improvements suggested may empower (/personalize) the world more than actually help the capsuleer out, yet improving standings with the planet and overall efficiency of the P.I. interactions.
5. Ship crew evaluation. A section within quarters or the station for customizing crew/potential crew, varying per area of space and standings with the corporation owning said station. A prior thread containing more veteran players' recommendations for crew ideas is be located here. Personal opinion: Crews should be able to affect an implant's worth of benefits to the ship. (These mechanics may open doors later for boarding actions, another idea that has been tossed around.)
6. Emotes for your character. Preferably ability to switch idle animations. (ex. /happy shifts idle animation until leaving quarters to character being overall happy.) (Would not appear in chat as /me is the current command used to imply an emote via chat.)
7. Corporate war rooms. (Integrates DUST characters.) Accessed remotely applies an occasional flickering animation to the character, implying your character is being holographically projected. Similar mechanics could be used for inviting players to capsuleer quarters.
8. Additional actions within captains quarters. (Everyone's wondered why you can't lay down in your own bed.)
9. Buyable props for captains quarters. (Preferably a trophy case of your favorite [account-linked?] DUST merc?) (Perhaps a display [/freezer] case for an assigned frozen corpse?)
More to come within monitored replies, expressed support, or enough hate. |
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.10.14 02:37:00 -
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hmm i think ccp needs to work the cq more.
my ideas is first we r in a space station. The Captain Quarter is far to large, needs to be more cramped. But u should be able to rent an "apartment", which u can also prop like u want. You should be able to leave your quarters and visit a hangar gallery, market place, Laboratories, Production places and ofcourse the Corperation Offices. The Corp Offices should also be freely adjustable by the CEO's of the corp.
Interacting with an Agent should follow direct conversation or via hologram.
Clothes i personally dont give a rats ass aslong as we only have those little rooms for ourselfes.
'Isis Dea' wrote: 3. Ability to assign passengers to your captains quarters. (They would come with assorted props and would change various places around the captain's quarters with each visit.)
if u mean like pets maybe, but let them be realistic (Cats, Dogs, Leguan, Girl-/Boyfriend)
'Isis Dea' wrote: 5. Ship crew evaluation. A section within quarters or the station for customizing crew/potential crew, varying per area of space and standings with the corporation owning said station. A prior thread containing more veteran players' recommendations for crew ideas is be located here. Personal opinion: Crews should be able to affect an implant's worth of benefits to the ship. (These mechanics may open doors later for boarding actions, another idea that has been tossed around.)
personally i think its not logic to have a crew an a capsuler ship, because nobody would hire on when the captain of the ship doesnt care if it gets blown up as long as it doesnt hurt his isk balance to much. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
331
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Posted - 2013.10.14 04:43:00 -
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Isis Dea wrote:(Could not find a topic on brainstorming captains quarters improves/character customization/lore integration and after posting some of these ideas in a few other topics, decided to bring them here. Now with a few more ideas included:) DISCLAIMER: EVE is forever a game of internet spaceships. And thanks to CCP those spaceships have gotten better and better, balanced, and fixed. With much more to come, time-dilation has in many ways fixed server stability from when Incarna first came out. They've done an amazing job catering to starships and fixing issues. Nine years playing and forever a PvPer, I can vouch. But what they haven't catered very hugely to has been the players' characters mingling in the overall world: Nine years and there's still a wall between the players and the massive lore-filled world that is EVE Online. In fact, there's been a decline of the characters' ability to express their uniqueness since Incarna's new character editor, especially within key racial features. Yet we were finally able to venture outside the capsule. However, we're never allowed to show face beyond the captains quarters. The door leading out has always been the bane of internet spaceships' existence and so we've not prospected beyond. Would love to set the mood toward expanding (slowly) into revisiting the world beyond the capsule, especially now that EVE Online truly is in a better place since Incarna. Would love to see other players' opinions and their own ideas yet also the critique of if these ideas will take away from the game. PROPOSED IDEAS (will remove or add with enough feedback, bare in mind there are possibly topics already out there for certain ideas. Be sure to check the Rules of this forum for a list): 1. More character customization. Specifically toward the differences of the other races. (As in more wartat options with Minmatar, skimpier wear with Gallente, etc.) Would be interesting if included sub-racial exclusive items. (Khanid Cyberknight wear, Brutor deactivated slave collars.) 1a. Ability to sell racial specific customization items (provided within LP stores) to other races. 1b. Drug-induced/over-use appearance effects. (Would imagine in a menu following "Scars") 2. Ability to interact and get to know NPCs would be nice. (Such interviewing assets of missions, such as the militants you just scooped, the damsel, the freedom fighter. -could possibly open doors for alternative mission ending options, where instead of completing the mission for your corporation, you cater to another questionable party. [Could allow a slow building of standings toward other factions/corporations while taking a {skill modified} hit to your own corp's.]) 2a. Ability to interact with your agents face-to-face, especially if from a place of dominance and fear-inducing. In time with enough standing, you could modify this reception to something more friendly. 3. Ability to assign passengers to your captains quarters. (They would come with assorted props and would change various places around the captain's quarters with each visit.) 4. Ability to further customize planets you've set up base on, even having standings with that world. Some improvements suggested may empower (/personalize) the world more than actually help the capsuleer out, yet improving standings with the planet and overall efficiency of the P.I. interactions. 5. Ship crew evaluation. A section within quarters or the station for customizing crew/potential crew, varying per area of space and standings with the corporation owning said station. A prior thread containing more veteran players' recommendations for crew ideas is be located here. Personal opinion: Crews should be able to affect an implant's worth of benefits to the ship. (These mechanics may open doors later for boarding actions, another idea that has been tossed around.) 6. Emotes for your character. Preferably ability to switch idle animations. (ex. /happy shifts idle animation until leaving quarters to character being overall happy.) (Would not appear in chat as /me is the current command used to imply an emote via chat.) 7. Corporate war rooms. (Integrates DUST characters.) Accessed remotely applies an occasional flickering animation to the character, implying your character is being holographically projected. Similar mechanics could be used for inviting players to capsuleer quarters. 8. Additional actions within captains quarters. (Everyone's wondered why you can't lay down in your own bed.) 9. Buyable props for captains quarters. (Preferably a trophy case of your favorite [account-linked?] DUST merc?) (Perhaps a display [/freezer] case for an assigned frozen corpse?) More to come within monitored replies, expressed support, or enough hate.
Confirming that these are all badass ideas. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |
Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2143
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Posted - 2013.10.14 11:53:00 -
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Supported. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Claire Raynor
NovaGear Limitless Inc.
186
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Posted - 2013.10.14 12:12:00 -
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Supported.
Yes Ships have to be at the fore but there ARE at least a number of us who would like to see the WiS concepts more fleshed out. After 6 years and 5 active accounts - sometimes - well I find myself sitting in the CQ a lot whilst doing industry and PI. I still make the walk from the landing pad to the couch every time I land each of my 5 toons. I'd really love this to be expanded.
Cheers |
Mr Doctor
Los Polos Hermanos. Happy Cartel
75
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Posted - 2013.10.14 12:25:00 -
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Beatable games!
Chess Draughts Poker Blackjack Hell... Snooker and Pool Freaking Dominoes! Even one of those crappy Bioware betting games. Better yet, rip of Magic The Gathering but spaceify it with Eve themes. Buy trading cards on the market to build your deck, winner takes the isk plus one random card from your deck.
Anything that you can conceivably put an isk bet on you winning vs someone else. Perhaps allow 3rd party betting, but mainly for the players involved. Any amount can be bet fror 1 isk to 10 trillion isk but both players put down the same amount. I know several exist outside game, but put them in stations. |
Isis Dea
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
174
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Posted - 2013.10.14 17:54:00 -
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Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote: personally i think its not logic to have a crew an a capsuler ship, because nobody would hire on when the captain of the ship doesnt care if it gets blown up as long as it doesnt hurt his isk balance to much.
The funny thing is that for a long time we (all the roleplayers) beat up the idea of crews on ships. There were talks (especially as ship size got bigger) that the capsuleer couldn't completely command their vessel.
And then CCP put the hammer down and made it official:
New Eden crew guidelines.
Note the contributors. >.<
Now, the next big question one asks is how do we use them? And currently CSM is dabbling with that potential idea here.
EDIT: Updating that recommendation with those links. |
Isis Dea
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
174
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:06:00 -
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Mr Doctor wrote:Beatable games!
Chess Draughts Poker Blackjack Hell... Snooker and Pool Freaking Dominoes! Even one of those crappy Bioware betting games. Better yet, rip of Magic The Gathering but spaceify it with Eve themes. Buy trading cards on the market to build your deck, winner takes the isk plus one random card from your deck.
Anything that you can conceivably put an isk bet on you winning vs someone else. Perhaps allow 3rd party betting, but mainly for the players involved. Any amount can be bet fror 1 isk to 10 trillion isk but both players put down the same amount. I know several exist outside game, but put them in stations.
I like where you're going. Yet for any kind of 3rd party support you'll be facing a very heated issue presently going on within the community. Maybe worth pushing that idea later?
As for traditional games able to be played in the captains quarters, I think CCP would point to the ingame browser for that. :\
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Harlon Cordarii
The Black Ops Northern Associates.
1
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:10:00 -
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I'm not sure if I missed it but I'm surprised nobody mentioned having the ability for multiple players to be in the same room together. Board room meeting? Card games with gambling? Or just hanging out in the corp office? |
Isis Dea
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
175
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:13:00 -
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Harlon Cordarii wrote:I'm not sure if I missed it but I'm surprised nobody mentioned having the ability for multiple players to be in the same room together. Board room meeting? Card games with gambling? Or just hanging out in the corp office?
The Corporate War room idea up there includes it. :3 ...as well as future support for people visiting your quarters. |
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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
635
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:20:00 -
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I hink and WiS implementation to be meaninfull need to be intergated with the major EVE gameplay.
The first base step for this integration is to be part of the normal EVE market and production mechanics.This mean adding new industry layers for cloths, forniture, modules and any WiS-related items. Problem here is that to work these items should be destructable; they could be fixed with a decay over time mechanics for these items. This could be a problem cause is concept currently not present in EVE.
Beside the CQ extensions (here even only 4-5 slots for multiavatar CQ could be enough) advanced WiS modules should be added as anchorable modules (to a revamped POS system, POCO, new rubicon deployable or whatever). Basically allowing players to build their own small town in the space.
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Davon Mandra'thin
Rotten Legion Ops
214
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:25:00 -
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Supported. Anything to get some attention back on Avatar gameplay. CCP have been ignoring their player base for too long. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2160
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:00:00 -
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Bumped for visibility, it's a good thread. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Sarah Stallman
International Unification
14
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:19:00 -
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Agreed, I'd like to see the CQ get some love. |
Rosen Thornn
House of Nightshade
21
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Posted - 2013.10.16 14:29:00 -
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I would love WiS to get some more things to do. I also wish I could but upgraded quarters with more rooms. |
Capt Starfox
xX-Crusader-Xx Li3 Federation
481
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Posted - 2013.10.17 05:46:00 -
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Isis Dea wrote:2. Ability to interact and get to know NPCs would be nice. (Such [as] interrogating assets of missions, such as the militants you just scooped, the damsel, the freedom fighter.
I fixed that for you
Always wanted to find out why the Damsel keeps getting caught.
Signed. Great ideas so far! Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet |
Isis Dea
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
189
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Posted - 2013.10.17 14:34:00 -
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Updated with a few common recommendations from a separate Crime & Punishment topic.
The frozen corpse display case, and specifically more augmented limbs. |
Saber1
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:13:00 -
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Why in the business is this topic all the way back here?
Supported.
All great ideas. |
Viktrix Vhymidor
House Vhymidor
0
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:23:00 -
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Supported!
Would be cool if one could have slaves in the CQ. Just my two cents. |
Isis Dea
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
194
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Posted - 2013.10.19 00:52:00 -
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Viktrix Vhymidor wrote:Supported!
Would be cool if one could have slaves in the CQ. Just my two cents.
I think that's part of assigning passengers to the captains quarters. In other words, already up on the list. xD :3 |
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Aura Vampriss
Combat Cruise Control
1
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:17:00 -
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SUPPORTED!! |
Isis Dea
State Protectorate Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:39:00 -
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Bumping for great justice! |
Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
1282
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:23:00 -
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Supported! Signature |
Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2221
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:40:00 -
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Isis Dea wrote:Bumping for great justice! EDIT: Updated with #10, the golden pod featured within collector's edition.
We shouldn't have to ask for this. This should have been a given. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Soulpirate
Interstellar Booty Hunters
320
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:33:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Isis Dea wrote:Bumping for great justice! EDIT: Updated with #10, the golden pod featured within collector's edition. We shouldn't have to ask for this. This should have been a given.
CCP - If it's not done half-assed it's not done at all.
I gave up trying to get support for WiS/CQ, in fact it seems no matter what the customer base asks for, POS/SOV/WiS/ etc etc, they seem bent on doing anything BUT what people are asking for.
CCP gets these ideas, launches half finished features, then before they finish them they get all excited about another great idea leaving us with a bunch of half finished features. Then they come back to these features years later,, throw some cosmetic changes on them and call it and "expansion"
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Saber1
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:43:00 -
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Soulpirate wrote:Arduemont wrote:Isis Dea wrote:Bumping for great justice! EDIT: Updated with #10, the golden pod featured within collector's edition. We shouldn't have to ask for this. This should have been a given. CCP - If it's not done half-assed it's not done at all. I gave up trying to get support for WiS/CQ, in fact it seems no matter what the customer base asks for, POS/SOV/WiS/ etc etc, they seem bent on doing anything BUT what people are asking for. CCP gets these ideas, launches half finished features, then before they finish them they get all excited about another great idea leaving us with a bunch of half finished features. Then they come back to these features years later,, throw some cosmetic changes on them and call it and "expansion"
An opinion from an old fart... I like to think it's been some time and they're more willing to revisit this stuff if enough people show interest.
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1038
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:45:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Supported. Anything to get some attention back on Avatar gameplay. CCP have been ignoring their player base for too long.
As I was told in another thread, the WiS-wanting player base is "me and the 2 others" .. that's how CCP sees us I am starting to think. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
303
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Posted - 2013.10.22 19:47:00 -
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Absolutely everything in here. Some of this would be a great start. One thing I'd love to see, particularly once we have some CQ customization options, is the ability for one person to visit another person's CQ when they're in the same station. It could be accessed from the Guests list, and open a "wants to start a conversation"-like approval dialog box for the quarters owner to accept. |
Claire Raynor
NovaGear Limitless Inc.
190
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Posted - 2013.10.23 07:06:00 -
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Jesicasica Alba - I hear that WiS Player base is "me and just two others" crap also. I know CCP were hurt after Incarna. But there were posts from me, at least and others, back then supporting what had actually been done, but the vitriol after that was gross.
It's a shame. WiS was great. It just wasn't what the majority of people thought should have been in that expansion. So they vented on it. It in and of itself was great. There was a band wagon though - and the wagons message was different and not subjective.
But now that the bandwagon got their ship balancing, and a few years have passed. . . .Just maybe we can revisit some of the WiS stuff? I doubt it though.
TBH. The way the community blew up. If I'd been a programmer or designer working on Incarna. . . It would be with huge bitterness if I ever went back to that stuff. People lost their jobs at CCP because of the community reaction to WiS. And you really don't hear much from Hilmar anymore. . . You did before. Maybe he'd needed to move along and try something else - and tried to take his game with him. . . . But wasn't allowed. . . So he moved on and left the game behind - he's the CEO so that's telling - anyone for disinvestiture?
I'd love WiS to happen moar. I wish the reaction to Incarna had never happened. I hate people generally.
WoW - that actually really all came out there :O
It's going to be a long day.
But the one thing that narks me. . I'm still here. . I wonder how many of the hangers on who did burn Jita and all that still are? I'd feel better if there were still here. But the cynic in me thinks maybe not. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
2552
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:23:00 -
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Some aged (But still kewl) concepts for WiS gameplay and playing platforms can be found in this Assembly Hall topic Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
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