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D Colon
Sad-Faced Pirates
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:30:00 -
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So I've decided to put my mission- and incursion-running ways away, and want to get into some lowsec PvP and do a bit of suicide ganking on the side. My home base being only a few jumps away from a minor mission hub (50-80 people in the primary system at any one time, and another 15-30 missioners in the neighboring systems), I've given consideration to trying my hand not at the standard miner ganking (which is a fairly common event), but to instead try ganking salvagers and industrials in this hub (and, once my skills are better, perhaps taking a gank Talos out go go against mission-runners, as well).
My big question, though, is this: Do people tend to fit out their Noctises (Noctisii? Noctisus?) with defensive mods? I never ran salvage, being able to make more ISK blitzing through missions, so I never bothered. I see they have lower raw HP than a Mack, which get ganked all the time, so I'm assuming that it's possible, but people also don't tend to fit their Macks for defense, so I'm still curious about it the Noctis.
Either way, I'll probably lose a number of ships learning what's doable and what isn't, anyways.
Cheers! |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.16 19:21:00 -
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D Colon wrote:Either way, I'll probably lose a number of ships learning what's doable and what isn't, anyways.
Most Noctis don't have a DCU fitted, those can be taken down by a normal t2 ion gank catalyst. I use
[Catalyst, Sipphakta en Gravonere's Catalyst] Gauss Field Balancer I Gauss Field Balancer I Gauss Field Balancer I
Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I Prototype Sensor Booster,Scan Resolution Script
Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Light Ion Blaster II,Void S
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Replace the SeBo by an Afterburner if they are in deadspace and you can't warp directly on them. That takes them out in 0.5 and 0.6 space with ease. I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42 |
D Colon
Sad-Faced Pirates
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Posted - 2013.10.16 21:10:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:D Colon wrote:Either way, I'll probably lose a number of ships learning what's doable and what isn't, anyways. Most Noctis don't have a DCU fitted, those can be taken down by a normal t2 ion gank catalyst. I use [Awesome Stuffs] Replace the SeBo by an Afterburner if they are in deadspace and you can't warp directly on them. That takes them out in 0.5 and 0.6 space with ease. Great to hear! Thank you! Fortunately, the hub is in a 0.6.
Thanks again! |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Desperado-Enforcement LLC Ragnarok.
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Posted - 2013.10.16 21:55:00 -
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hm, this sounds interesting. what kind of dps should I look for before attempting this? I'm just wondering about skills mainly. I hate to disagree with you,-ábut there is nothing subjective about "boring" in connection to "mining". -á-á-á-á -- Solstice Project's Alt |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:01:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:hm, this sounds interesting. what kind of dps should I look for before attempting this? I'm just wondering about skills mainly.
Untanked Noctis has 11.3k ehp against blasters, you have 19 seconds in a prepared 0.6 system, that equals 595 DPS needed. If you have overheating skills you should aim for 520 DPS in the ingame fitting window. (520*1.15=598). In reality you will need quite a lot less dps because:
- People don't have Mechanics/Shield Management/Hull Upgrades to Level V in their Salvager - People often fit Cargoexpanders in the lows or Cargohold Optimization rigs, reducing their EHP
You will occasionally fail a gank because the target is smart and fits a DCU, but these cases are quite rare. I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42 |
Paranoid Loyd
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:02:00 -
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Study Material
Concentrate on the hi-sec kills but review them all to see how they are typically fit |
Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
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Posted - 2013.10.16 23:33:00 -
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If you want to do this with a Catalyst, you'll need to probe out the missions. Do not attempt it on a gate or a station. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
bad touches
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:37:00 -
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Here is a nice collection of mostly noctis kills from our most famous Noctis killer Fawn Tailor:
http://zkillboard.com/character/92723023/group/28/
Hey CCP, please slush my fund like you did for SOMER Blink. |
D Colon
Sad-Faced Pirates
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:17:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Study MaterialConcentrate on the hi-sec kills but review them all to see how they are typically fit Oh, hey! I hadn't even thought of using killboards to see fits and kills. Awesome! So much to study and learn...
Shederov Blood wrote:If you want to do this with a Catalyst, you'll need to probe out the missions. Do not attempt it on a gate or a station. Nope! I learned that watching gankers on Jita and Amarr's undock and gates. I'm training probing skills on my hauler alt right now. Consequently, said alt will also be the one scooping loot for me! |
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