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Herr Esiq
Dirt Nap Squad
72
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:49:00 -
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Exept that you dont convert ISK to $ you convert them to raffle tickets. |
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CCP Falcon
4206
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:56:00 -
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This thread is being moved to the Ingame Events and Gatherings sub-forum.
Our customer support team is also in the process of reviewing this particular style of raffle to ensure it conforms with our rules and policies.
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Naiobi
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:01:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:This thread is being moved to the Ingame Events and Gatherings sub-forum. Our customer support team is also in the process of reviewing this particular style of raffle to ensure it conforms with our rules and policies.
I hope someone have been quick to print screen on the EULA, you cant trust anyone when it comes to RL cash. (call me paranoid) But if DNS is right about this, then he got CCP's balls in his hand. |
Prince Kobol
1048
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:02:00 -
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DarkDecay wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:DarkDecay wrote:Dont want the list, want to know how to get on the gravy train list itself. CCP, tell us how we can join the list to max out our profit on our in-game ISK! You need that list dumbass otherwise you can't do squat.. Its very simple. First thing is you have to do is contact the sites on that list and see if they run a referral program. Then create a Eve Lottery Site with links to those sites which you have signed up to their referral program. Give free lottery tickets to anybody who purchases GTC's via your links. Job Done. Would appear you are the dumbass here. To maximise the profit you need to get on that list. With my in game assets I can give 200mil per gtc to about 11k buyers. This will make me around $33,000 (based on $3 per gtc sold). By becoming a reseller and not just a user, I can offer deals to other people. This means that I can offer deals to some smaller customers to convert their ISK to $ with a small cut of the ISK for me: say 100 million to me and 200 million to the customer for $3. This will allow me to make a lot more $ than I would by simply using someone on the list, dumbass.
By converting isk to $ you have just committed RMT..
At no point does Somerblink which thread is aimed at, covert RL Money to Isk.
They give blink credits in turn for you using their referral scheme.
Now some people will say you can use that credit to guarantee a win and then converting that to isk by blinking on all slots on a ship, however that isn't as easy as it sounds as chances are somebody will place a blink on that ship so your chance of success whilst high isn't 100%.
So you still need a method of attracting people to your site and to use your referral service without offering them isk.
Like the example I gave, on a lottery site you would give x number of tickets in return.
So those using your referral might have a higher chance of winning said lottery due to them having more tickets. but it isn't 100% guaranteed.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1328
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:54:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:By converting isk to $ you have just committed RMT..
At no point does Somerblink which thread is aimed at, covert RL Money to Isk or isk to RL Money
They give blink credits in turn for you using their referral scheme.
Now some people will say you can use that credit to guarantee a win and then converting that to isk by blinking on all slots on a ship, however that isn't as easy as it sounds as chances are somebody will place a blink on that ship so your chance of success whilst high isn't 100%.
So you still need a method of attracting people to your site and to use your referral service without offering them isk.
Like the example I gave, on a lottery site you would give x number of tickets in return.
So those using your referral might have a higher chance of winning said lottery due to them having more tickets. but it isn't 100% guaranteed. Bull! Credits are as good as isk. Not to mention they can only offer "credit" by having the isk to back it up. Also 80% of the credit WILL be able to be converted into isk. It may not be by the buyer, but 80% of the credit value will en up as winnings. What you have here is a technicality they are using the launder isk into cash, nothing more. To do the same, the only thing you'd need to do is offer "tickets" not isk, then allow you to buy a whole lottery for 100% of the winnings. Slapping the word "game" on it would make it as valid as Somer. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Reckless Ourtomineng
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:26:00 -
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What has this thread to do with event & gathering ? :O |
Abditus Cularius
Clancularius Industries
224
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:31:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:This thread is being moved to the Ingame Events and Gatherings sub-forum. Our customer support team is also in the process of reviewing this particular style of raffle to ensure it conforms with our rules and policies.
Let me help you - raffles for characters have never been allowed, regardless of the level of trolling butthurt about website advertising banners in the raffle.
And threads about quitting eve have never been allowed anywhere but OOPE.
So....there's your rule review. |
Dani Lizardov
Star Frontiers Dirt Nap Squad.
26
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:45:00 -
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Abditus Cularius wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:This thread is being moved to the Ingame Events and Gatherings sub-forum. Our customer support team is also in the process of reviewing this particular style of raffle to ensure it conforms with our rules and policies. Let me help you - raffles for characters have never been allowed, regardless of the level of trolling butthurt about website advertising banners in the raffle. And threads about quitting eve have never been allowed anywhere but OOPE. So....there's your rule review.
No no... please allow me to help You: I have a few Machariels and I would like to put em in a raffles, especially if that will net me 200$ per ship. Does that help?
Quote:raffles for characters have never been allowed Are you sure? I can remember a few. I would probably dig up the forum posts about them using google.... How is a character different from a Machariel? It has an Isk value. It's legal. They are rules about it....
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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
155
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Posted - 2013.10.17 13:24:00 -
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Abditus Cularius wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:This thread is being moved to the Ingame Events and Gatherings sub-forum. Our customer support team is also in the process of reviewing this particular style of raffle to ensure it conforms with our rules and policies. Let me help you - raffles for characters have never been allowed, regardless of the level of trolling butthurt about website advertising banners in the raffle. And threads about quitting eve have never been allowed anywhere but OOPE. So....there's your rule review. shilling for Somer in yet another thread aye? |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation The Cursed Few
111
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Posted - 2013.10.17 13:28:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote: By converting isk to $ you have just committed RMT..
At no point does Somerblink which thread is aimed at, covert RL Money to Isk or isk to RL Money
They give blink credits in turn for you using their referral scheme.
That's the genius part of the entire thing. Neither of the two parties in this setup directly handle both the ISK AND the real money and thus there is no RMT to speak of.
If you would attempt to do this thing on your own IE; you both sell the GTC's AND run the lottery THEN it would be RMT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoavH8xbrPE |
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
280
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Posted - 2013.10.17 14:01:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Prince Kobol wrote: By converting isk to $ you have just committed RMT..
At no point does Somerblink which thread is aimed at, covert RL Money to Isk or isk to RL Money
They give blink credits in turn for you using their referral scheme.
That's the genius part of the entire thing. Neither of the two parties in this setup directly handle both the ISK AND the real money and thus there is no RMT to speak of. If you would attempt to do this thing on your own IE; you both sell the GTC's AND run the lottery THEN it would be RMT.
Are you saying that SOMER do not receive a referral fee for those GTCs?
They may not get the full amount paid by the GTC purchaser but they definitely get paid so they are handling both the ISK AND the real money and thus there is RMT. The fact there is a fake currency in between that works as the cash > ISK exchange is immaterial. |
Embarased for You
Oooooo Burn
0
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Posted - 2013.10.17 14:05:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/Kei4CZR.png |
Cameron Freerunner
Long Jump.
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Posted - 2013.10.17 14:13:00 -
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So they moved the thread? This is why CCP should hire a professional communicator. Moving it here pretends there's a real raffle while ignoring the underlying point. When CCP does crap like this, it just comes off as a snarky, jackass move. |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4239
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:18:00 -
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Black, you can set yourself up as a Markee Dragon affiliate yourself. He says you get about 5%, which works out to about $1 US per 30 day GTC. So your raffle would net you $1,000. You would probably be better off selling your character the regular way, and taking all the ISK and starting a terrible, dumb "gambling" site. You could tell people you pay out 80% of the time, like Somer does, and end up getting $1 per 80 mil ISK. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
338
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:57:00 -
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Two Step better yet
1. I just sold a GTC to a guy for $2500.00 I gave him 2500 black credits.
2. I just sold another guy a GTC for $17.00 and gave him 2 black credits
3. Both of these guys used the black credits and bought tickets to my charcter raffle.
4. I all ready held the drawing and the winner will be announced soon.
5. I will be starting the legal transfer on the charcter form today.
6. Thank you CCP I made $ 2502 dollars enjoy your 30.00 dollars.
7. I did this with no website. |
Cameron Freerunner
Long Jump.
69
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:41:00 -
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DNSBLACK wrote:Two Step better yet
1. I just sold a GTC to a guy for $2500.00 I gave him 2500 black credits.
2. I just sold another guy a GTC for $17.00 and gave him 2 black credits
3. Both of these guys used the black credits and bought tickets to my charcter raffle.
4. I all ready held the drawing and the winner will be announced soon.
5. I will be starting the legal transfer on the charcter form today.
6. Thank you CCP I made $ 2502 dollars enjoy your 30.00 dollars.
7. I did this with no website. Did you warn the new buyer that no one will engage him when he's in an Arazu? |
DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
342
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:51:00 -
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1. Net gain $2475.00.
2. Would like to thank all of you for posting and helping me sell my GTC and black credits. The bumps and advertising was awesome.
3. Please watch the character Bazaar for the final transfer according to all the rules. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2703
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:54:00 -
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DNSBLACK wrote:Two Step better yet
1. I just sold a GTC to a guy for $2500.00 I gave him 2500 black credits.
2. I just sold another guy a GTC for $17.00 and gave him 2 black credits
3. Both of these guys used the black credits and bought tickets to my charcter raffle.
4. I all ready held the drawing and the winner will be announced soon.
5. I will be starting the legal transfer on the charcter form today.
6. Thank you CCP I made $ 2502 dollars enjoy your 30.00 dollars.
7. I did this with no website. Wait.
Are you kidding me?
Did this really just happen? ...or am I being trolled?
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Frying Doom
2655
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:16:00 -
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DNSBLACK wrote:1. Net gain $2475.00.
2. Would like to thank all of you for posting and helping me sell my GTC and black credits. The bumps and advertising was awesome.
3. Please watch the character Bazaar for the final transfer according to all the rules. Awesome
I think this section is about to get very full Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
DarkDecay
The Scope Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:40:00 -
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DNSBLACK wrote:1. Net gain $2475.00.
Is this RMT? Almost certainly.
Is it funny as ****? You are god damn right it is...
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Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:42:00 -
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DarkDecay wrote: Is this RMT? Almost certainly.
Apparently it's actually more of a grey area. |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:44:00 -
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DarkDecay wrote:DNSBLACK wrote:1. Net gain $2475.00. Is this RMT? Almost certainly. Is it funny as ****? You are god damn right it is... No apparently by using black credits it is perfectly legal.
I will admit I like the fact there is someone out there who is willing to pay real cash for well known characters, I wonder what Frying doom is worth? Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
DarkDecay
The Scope Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:45:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:... I wonder what Frying doom is worth?
I think quite a lot of people are wondering what their characters are worth at the moment.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2705
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:46:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: No apparently by using black credits it is perfectly legal.
I will admit I like the fact there is someone out there who is willing to pay real cash for well known characters, I wonder what Frying doom is worth?
Don't know. Pretty sure the zillion hours I've invested in Gogela isn't worth his $20 market value.
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DarkDecay
The Scope Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:08:00 -
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Still laughing at how funny this is. |
Bob FromMarketing
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
60
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Posted - 2013.10.18 00:01:00 -
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I like this.
I'd like to see what CCP does, as technically the Black Credit only allows the winner to negotiate the sale of the character which will be sold for 1isk and with the seller paying the transfer fee, no rules are broken.
Good Fights allround
*to clarify* I like the subversion, not the RMT |
Joey Zasa
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
7
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Posted - 2013.10.18 01:11:00 -
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Please understand DNS is going thru a change of command, in the coming days, a new CEO will be elected per our bylaws. The new position will be called "LORD MARSHALL". I would like it to be known that Zasaco and its affiliates were not involved that this is not a Coup, we are looking for a smooth transition and hope our ex- leader the best in his search for a new corp or game.
Joey Zasa- Capo of Finance and logistics
PS- we are booting Hu Immediately.... |
Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
3138
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Posted - 2013.10.18 02:25:00 -
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Joey Zasa wrote:PS- we are booting Hu Immediately.... Well, at least one good thing is coming out of this sh*tstorm... Like any honest politician, "My door is always open, and my hand is always out" |
Frying Doom
2667
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:06:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Joey Zasa wrote:PS- we are booting Hu Immediately.... Well, at least one good thing is coming out of this sh*tstorm... Who is Hu?
Did you let some prat like Frying Doom into Dirt Nap Squad? Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
3139
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:30:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Did you let some prat like Frying Doom into Dirt Nap Squad? Frying Doom is far too respectable to be allowed in DNS. Like any honest politician, "My door is always open, and my hand is always out" |
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