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Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
569
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:44:00 -
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He is selling GTCs, I'm sure when he said he would sell his character through the bazaar it would be done properly.
For instance, I can sell my character for 1 isk. I can also choose who pays me for it. This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
92
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:48:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:He is selling GTCs, I'm sure when he said he would sell his character through the bazaar it would be done properly. For instance, I can sell my character for 1 isk. I can also choose who pays me for it.
DNSBLACK wrote: 3. I will also would like to offer my character to raffle once all my assets are gone. We will follow all CCP rules for transfer once the raffle is over.
5. This practice has been ok'd and does not break the EULA according to CCP.
Does that count as impersonating CCP too? .
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Frying Doom
2729
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:53:00 -
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Once again that is a forum rule, you might try posting the relevant EULA section on character transfers. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Frying Doom
2729
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:54:00 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:He is selling GTCs, I'm sure when he said he would sell his character through the bazaar it would be done properly. For instance, I can sell my character for 1 isk. I can also choose who pays me for it. DNSBLACK wrote: 3. I will also would like to offer my character to raffle once all my assets are gone. We will follow all CCP rules for transfer once the raffle is over.
5. This practice has been ok'd and does not break the EULA according to CCP.
Does that count as impersonating CCP too? Please specify where his name is CCP anyone? Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
DNSBLACK
Aliastra Gallente Federation
418
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:55:00 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:He is selling GTCs, I'm sure when he said he would sell his character through the bazaar it would be done properly. For instance, I can sell my character for 1 isk. I can also choose who pays me for it. DNSBLACK wrote: 3. I will also would like to offer my character to raffle once all my assets are gone. We will follow all CCP rules for transfer once the raffle is over.
5. This practice has been ok'd and does not break the EULA according to CCP.
Does that count as impersonating CCP too?
These are all grey areas now. |
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
175
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:02:00 -
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DNSBLACK wrote:Elizabeth Norn wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:He is selling GTCs, I'm sure when he said he would sell his character through the bazaar it would be done properly. For instance, I can sell my character for 1 isk. I can also choose who pays me for it. DNSBLACK wrote: 3. I will also would like to offer my character to raffle once all my assets are gone. We will follow all CCP rules for transfer once the raffle is over.
5. This practice has been ok'd and does not break the EULA according to CCP.
Does that count as impersonating CCP too? These are all grey areas now. Also if you look at the title of this post; Iam looking for a third party GTC seller backing. I am sure we will find the grey area in the word raffle together. damnit man, if you don't stop posting, i can't stop liking your comments!
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
600
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:21:00 -
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Greetings,
Any form of ETC trading outside of the CCP created system is not permitted or supported by CCP. We are currently investigating if the sort of ETC resale (resale by an unauthorized reseller) is permitted. We appreciate your patience while we investigate this matter. CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
175
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:25:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:Greetings,
Any form of ETC trading outside of the CCP created system is not permitted or supported by CCP. We are currently investigating if the sort of ETC resale (resale by an unauthorized reseller) is permitted. We appreciate your patience while we investigate this matter. o/ Dolan
I'm curious, does this mean his scheme is acceptable so long as the ETC goes through a reseller? and how do affiliate sales fit into this?
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Jennimar
Raytheon Intergalactic Research Gatekeepers Universe
19
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:26:00 -
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Translation to CCP Response---
Everyone,
Please stop being so intelligent as to find loopholes in our rules. Why can't you all just be good little gamers like the guys over at WOW....just play the game quietly, and stop making trouble. Please understand.....only WE can do as we please...as we are the rule makers/breakers.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4774
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:34:00 -
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Jennimar wrote:Translation to CCP Response---
Everyone,
Please stop being so intelligent as to find loopholes in our rules. Why can't you all just be good little gamers like the guys over at WOW....just play the game quietly, and stop making trouble. Please understand.....only WE can do as we please...as we are the rule makers/breakers.
Pretty close yes.
In essence it doesn't matter what loophole you think you've found, if CCP doesn't like it (and they won't) they can close it at any time... and if you're making personal income from the selling of their intellectual property (GTC's, characters, or raffles to achieve the same end) I'd say it's probably a good thing you were planning to be gone anyway. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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Dani Lizardov
Star Frontiers Dirt Nap Squad.
27
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:41:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:Greetings,
Any form of ETC trading outside of the CCP created system is not permitted or supported by CCP. We are currently investigating if the sort of ETC resale (resale by an unauthorized reseller) is permitted. We appreciate your patience while we investigate this matter.
You are going to investigate is reselling legal ?
Can by any chance, wile you are at it, please ask Nikon can i sell my old DSLR too?
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Druthlen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:47:00 -
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This wraps up why somergate is so damning to CCP and eve. They dont know it yet. They think they got away with it. But they didnt. They will pay for this and if they dont fix it they will loose big time. |
Rain6638
Team Evil
1026
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:49:00 -
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loose. BIG time
somebody gonna get a hurt real bad
(calm down. it's a russell peters reference.) [ 2013.06.21 09:52:05 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1337 yo dawg, we heard you liek industrials, so we put an industrial in yo industrial so you can loss while u loss |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5341
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:56:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:Greetings,
Any form of ETC trading outside of the CCP created system is not permitted or supported by CCP. We are currently investigating if the sort of ETC resale (resale by an unauthorized reseller) is permitted. We appreciate your patience while we investigate this matter. How do I become an authorized reseller? You know, so I can run a completely legitimate GTC reselling operation that happens to also award lottery tickets for fantastic isk prizes. |
Jotaro Haake
The Nyan Cat Pirates Disband.
8
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:58:00 -
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Love to be a fly on the wall at CCP HQ about now-ish.
Perhaps also Somer HQ - they will be sweating on this.
Saw the OP derping around a few days ago in local, didn't get the chance to wave. Shame I won't get the chance now, given he is bailing out. Even if he's on an elaborate troll mission, it's a convincing one.
Fly safe wherever you go bro. Ballsy way to go o7
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5344
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:07:00 -
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Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx
This implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale. |
TheButcherPete
The Big E SpaceMonkey's Alliance
316
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:13:00 -
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Posting in the most legendary of emergence threads!
HOLD EVERYONE TO THE SAME STANDARD THAT YOU DO SOMERBLINK THE KING OF EVE RADIO
ElQuirko is my son |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4774
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:19:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspxThis implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale.
Quote:please contact one of our authorized wholesalers To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5346
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:22:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Weaselior wrote:Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspxThis implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale. Quote:please contact one of our authorized wholesalers Exactly! By authorizing wholesalers, you authorize resale of their goods by definition. |
Powers Sa
691
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:30:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Weaselior wrote:Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspxThis implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale. Quote:please contact one of our authorized wholesalers Exactly! By authorizing wholesalers, you authorize resale of their goods by definition. Imagine all the dudes with titans doing a sanctioned cashout. lol |
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Jennimar
Raytheon Intergalactic Research Gatekeepers Universe
25
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:34:00 -
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Hmmmmm......
I'm pretty sure there are meeting occurring with multiple department heads trying out how to spin this on an epic scale. "How do we tell our paying customers, to do as we say.....AND NOT AS WE DO!"
CCP has forgotten that one must---LEAD BY EXAMPLE!
If you want us to overlook your indescretions you must do the same for us...If you want us to be honorable folk who have integrity in all dealings within the Eve Universe....then do the same
Or have you....the creators of Eve Online forgotten that YOU taught US that this was a cold and cruel place.....and that anything and everything is supposed to be ok.......after all .....aren't we supposed to be immortal demigods? |
Rain6638
Team Evil
1026
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:34:00 -
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while everyone is cheering for OP, has anyone realized this is one step closer to CCP selling items directly for money? it would be an extension of OP's logic [ 2013.06.21 09:52:05 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1337 yo dawg, we heard you liek industrials, so we put an industrial in yo industrial so you can loss while u loss |
Malcolm Shinhwa
bad touches
436
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:36:00 -
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This has to be the best SOMER reaction thread to date. Too bad I had to learn about it from Ripard's blog of all places. Why lock threads when you can send them to in-game events to die.
Good luck DNSBlack you magnificent bastard wherever you may be. Hey CCP, please slush my fund like you did for SOMER Blink. |
Rain6638
Team Evil
1026
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:38:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote: Imagine all the dudes with titans doing a sanctioned cashout.
if that was inevitable, CCP would print Titans and sell them at a better price than you
you have 1 Gallente titan in the redeeming system [ 2013.06.21 09:52:05 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1337 yo dawg, we heard you liek industrials, so we put an industrial in yo industrial so you can loss while u loss |
Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:42:00 -
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Whether this is allowed to happen or not there's no possible interpretation of the EULA that makes this OK. HTH. |
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
177
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:49:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Weaselior wrote:Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspxThis implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale. Quote:please contact one of our authorized wholesalers Exactly! By authorizing wholesalers, you authorize resale of their goods by definition. indeed. a wholesaler sells to resellers, otherwise, they wouldn't be wholesalers, but retail outlets |
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
177
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:51:00 -
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Rain6638 wrote:while everyone is cheering for OP, has anyone realized this is one step closer to CCP selling items directly for money? it would be an extension of OP's logic yes, we realize that. if they would just outright say that's they are going to do or allow others to do, it will make it a whole lot easier to either unsub my accounts or create my own site/service. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5349
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:54:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:Whether this is allowed to happen or not there's no possible interpretation of the EULA that makes this OK. HTH. Given SOMER's example, it appears CCP disagrees! |
Kazanir
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
457
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:54:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:Whether this is allowed to happen or not there's no possible interpretation of the EULA that makes this OK. HTH.
That's exactly why CCP has been allowing Somer to do it for nearly half a decade, I suppose. |
Xaerael Endiel
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.18 19:06:00 -
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So, while this is being clarified, is CCP going to stop all ETC ISK laundering operations? |
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