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destiny2
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.16 23:51:00 -
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playing around with some fits on EFT, these bastion muraders, can get some ******** tanks. had a golem up to 6k dps tank. which is pretty insane.
with tanks like those, and their ewar immunity when in bastion mode. i suspect, Pilots will use them for pvp.
Bastion Murader, Best Bait. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.10.16 23:58:00 -
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destiny2 wrote:
with tanks like those, and their ewar immunity when in bastion mode. i suspect, Pilots will use them for lose them trying to pvp.
More likely scenario.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
destiny2
Perkone Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:00:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:destiny2 wrote:
with tanks like those, and their ewar immunity when in bastion mode. i suspect, Pilots will use them for lose them trying to pvp.
More likely scenario.
I dunno some of the tanks, resists im getting on eft, are quite insane, and these are without drugs or implants added,
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Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:01:00 -
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I am very interested in how it'll play out in PvP
But I think it's too early to speculate. Given the nature of PvP, it's more likely these things will be popular with low sec pirate gate camps |
PotatoOverdose
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:04:00 -
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They might be used for station games (though that doesn't really count as pvp).
Although from what I understand, they have pretty ****** buffer, so a few (5-7) Tornadoes will be able to alpha them thereby ignoring the Marauder's active tank. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
3447
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:08:00 -
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My personal prediction is that they will perform just as well as a carrier would... if a carrier could deal damage in triage mode.
And by that I mean; they will die miserably unless they have a lot of support waiting nearby to save them.
Also, did you know that with siege links, crystal implants, blue pill, and shield amps you can get dual ASBs to tank 11,000 damage per second? Who cares if one cycle reps more than your entire shield buffer in an instant... right? Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2087
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:16:00 -
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you are a sitting duck in bastion mode. This means you attract more and more ships around you till you die. MJD won't help you much unless you time it perfectly. The most marauder explosions will probably happen when you disable bastion and enable MJD in the attempt to reposition. eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
1028
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:27:00 -
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Bastion will only have use in PVE I suspect, or maybe very occasionally in highsec PVP...
If anyone put more than 2 or 3 bastion marauders on grid in low / null someone would undock a dread and alpha them all in seconds.
Bastion = Sitting Duck. |
Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:33:00 -
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Sitting duck or not, I am going to waste at least 6 of those in PvP. 2 of each except Golem
After that I should get pretty good idea of how useful they are in PvP |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
1028
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:54:00 -
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This is based on SISI:
Solo, it makes them into something approaching attack battlecruisers. With their bastion mode engaged they're sitting ducks for alpha strikes. If you don't have anything capable of alphaing them then you still have a fair chance of getting a smaller ship in close, and scramming them.
Once you've scrammed them, you'll almost certainly be under their tracking unless they've gone super-heavy on the webs. Your tackle then just has to keep spamming your warp scram (to disable MJD + warp) so they can't escape. I was in a 1 v 1 on SISI for a good 20 minutes. He could tank me, but he couldn't escape because every time he came out of bastion I got my scram on again before he either a) got up to speed or b) could MJD.
Then it's a case of bringing in a friend to neut them out and it's one dead marauder.
I've seen them used fairly interestingly in groups. A couple of beam paladins 100km away from each other provide fairly decent fire to cover close in targets (wingman style) and if needs be they can close on each other really fast with the MJD and apply additional e-war.
Still, all said, sacrificing all your speed and agility for 60 seconds will more often than not be a death-sentence. You'll either have logi to rep you when you come out of it (siege mode + triage carrier style) in which case you might as well not use it in the first place and rely on your logi, or you'll immobilise yourself for 60 seconds and almost certainly be pinned down when you come out of it.
Looks good for PVE though... |
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
91
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:18:00 -
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Pandemic Legion with shiny new marauder fleet. They are organised well enough to pull it off and certainly have enough ISK and fleet members. Marauders will now be like mini dreads: they'll cost less than a dread, be more agile, have better tracking and more real DPS applied on subcaps and have a tactical advantage of MJD. Combine that with a titan bridge for easy deployment and you have a mini dread ready.
Other than that, if the sensor strength get fixed in Rubicon (don't know if this was confirmed), they may be viable in specific situations, but I think they will be ultimately too expensive to be seen in the wild often. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic |
destiny2
Perkone Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:22:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see Pandemic Legion with shiny new marauder fleet. They are organised well enough to pull it off and certainly have enough ISK and fleet members. Marauders will now be like mini dreads: they'll cost less than a dread, be more agile, have better tracking and more real DPS applied on subcaps and have a tactical advantage of MJD. Combine that with a titan bridge for easy deployment and you have a mini dread ready.
Other than that, if the sensor strength get fixed in Rubicon (don't know if this was confirmed), they may be viable in specific situations, but I think they will be ultimately too expensive to be seen in the wild often.
their immune to ewar while in their bastion mode.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
91
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:25:00 -
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destiny2 wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see Pandemic Legion with shiny new marauder fleet. They are organised well enough to pull it off and certainly have enough ISK and fleet members. Marauders will now be like mini dreads: they'll cost less than a dread, be more agile, have better tracking and more real DPS applied on subcaps and have a tactical advantage of MJD. Combine that with a titan bridge for easy deployment and you have a mini dread ready.
Other than that, if the sensor strength get fixed in Rubicon (don't know if this was confirmed), they may be viable in specific situations, but I think they will be ultimately too expensive to be seen in the wild often. their immune to ewar while in their bastion mode. I know. But there certainly will be situations when you might not want to enter bastion while on the field. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic |
destiny2
Perkone Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:28:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:destiny2 wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see Pandemic Legion with shiny new marauder fleet. They are organised well enough to pull it off and certainly have enough ISK and fleet members. Marauders will now be like mini dreads: they'll cost less than a dread, be more agile, have better tracking and more real DPS applied on subcaps and have a tactical advantage of MJD. Combine that with a titan bridge for easy deployment and you have a mini dread ready.
Other than that, if the sensor strength get fixed in Rubicon (don't know if this was confirmed), they may be viable in specific situations, but I think they will be ultimately too expensive to be seen in the wild often. their immune to ewar while in their bastion mode. I know. But there certainly will be situations when you might not want to enter bastion while on the field.
if the cyno works while in bastion thats good enough reason to enter it
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Alexa Coates
Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC
681
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:34:00 -
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they're all pvp ships. ccp's completely forgotten the pve side of eve. odyssey doesn't count, it made pve pointlessly harder and less fun. That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
567
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Posted - 2013.10.17 04:58:00 -
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destiny2 wrote:playing around with some fits on EFT, these bastion muraders, can get some ******** tanks. had a golem up to 6k dps tank. which is pretty insane. with tanks like those, and their ewar immunity when in bastion mode. i suspect, Pilots will use them for pvp. Bastion Murader, Best Bait.
Till you dump 20 bombers on the immobile ship that can't get remote reps.
What could possibly go wrong. |
baltec1
Bat Country
8278
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Posted - 2013.10.17 05:52:00 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:they're all pvp ships. ccp's completely forgotten the pve side of eve. odyssey doesn't count, it made pve pointlessly harder and less fun.
They can now solo level 5 missions and take part in a lot more level 4s and null anoms. They are a lot better in pve. |
Serenum
Red Cross Marauders
6
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Posted - 2013.10.17 07:33:00 -
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whats a murader?
and why does this need its own post in general discussion?
perhaps you mean to post a reply to the MARAUDER changes thread on the ideas board? |
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