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Hueid
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:01:00 -
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I was reading the TOS the other day and saw this interesting information:
"10. You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of items in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.
11. The advertisement or sale of out of game goods and services not directly related to EVE online is prohibited. The only out of game goods and services which can be advertised or sold are the following: EVE forum signature creation, website and third party voice communication server hosting or EVE Time Codes."
This means that themittani.com is not allowed to buy articles from writers. So why is CCP letting them do it? |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1329
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:06:00 -
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Let's also note that EN24 does the same. I'm pretty sure this has been covered before. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
128
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:11:00 -
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Pretty sure TMC sells GTC? (Correct me if I am wrong).
Also, TMC isn't just for Eve. Its a gaming news website not just aimed at Eve Online. Sure it might have sprouted from it but even so... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1659
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:13:00 -
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This is so far in the really-really obvious category that I'm absolutely confident TMC has permission. |
Hueid
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:21:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Pretty sure TMC sells GTC? (Correct me if I am wrong).
Also, TMC isn't just for Eve. Its a gaming news website not just aimed at Eve Online. Sure it might have sprouted from it but even so...
I agree, but they pay for non-eve related articles with ISK which is a violation of the TOS.... I wasn't aware EN24 did, but I suppose it makes sense, even so this should be clarified by CCP. |
Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
128
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:31:00 -
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Hueid wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Pretty sure TMC sells GTC? (Correct me if I am wrong).
Also, TMC isn't just for Eve. Its a gaming news website not just aimed at Eve Online. Sure it might have sprouted from it but even so... I agree, but they pay for non-eve related articles with ISK which is a violation of the TOS....
I actually never knew that... And if it's true then they must have been givem permission to do so... They probably wouldn't have lasted as long as they have if not... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Hueid
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:36:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Hueid wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Pretty sure TMC sells GTC? (Correct me if I am wrong).
Also, TMC isn't just for Eve. Its a gaming news website not just aimed at Eve Online. Sure it might have sprouted from it but even so... I agree, but they pay for non-eve related articles with ISK which is a violation of the TOS.... I actually never knew that... And if it's true then they must have been givem permission to do so... They probably wouldn't have lasted as long as they have if not...
Actually sales of any articles are forbidden, though for simplification I picked out non-eve related articles. I did file a petition to find out what could and could not be bought/sold and while I cannot quote what they told me I am sure you could guess. |
Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
128
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:22:00 -
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Hueid wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Hueid wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Pretty sure TMC sells GTC? (Correct me if I am wrong).
Also, TMC isn't just for Eve. Its a gaming news website not just aimed at Eve Online. Sure it might have sprouted from it but even so... I agree, but they pay for non-eve related articles with ISK which is a violation of the TOS.... I actually never knew that... And if it's true then they must have been givem permission to do so... They probably wouldn't have lasted as long as they have if not... Actually sales of any articles are forbidden, though for simplification I picked out non-eve related articles. I did file a petition to find out what could and could not be bought/sold and while I cannot quote what they told me I am sure you could guess.
Fair I guess.
Although I'm sure they would have know about this before now.
And I have to admit, I like TMC articles, not all of them, but they are nearly always a good read, and the debates are fantastic.
Not to mention, the writers of the Eve topics do play Eve and have to do all the ground work in the game itself so technically they are being paid isk to play eve and be in game so they're "technically" not breaking rules in regard to Eve articles... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Baggo Hammers
154
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:27:00 -
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I dig internet lawyers. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy Caldari State
241
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:13:00 -
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Because CCP doesnt want any free advertising to large gaming audiences...ever.
Guys please- think before you post. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4844
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:29:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Hueid wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Hueid wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Pretty sure TMC sells GTC? (Correct me if I am wrong).
Also, TMC isn't just for Eve. Its a gaming news website not just aimed at Eve Online. Sure it might have sprouted from it but even so... I agree, but they pay for non-eve related articles with ISK which is a violation of the TOS.... I actually never knew that... And if it's true then they must have been givem permission to do so... They probably wouldn't have lasted as long as they have if not... Actually sales of any articles are forbidden, though for simplification I picked out non-eve related articles. I did file a petition to find out what could and could not be bought/sold and while I cannot quote what they told me I am sure you could guess. Fair I guess. Although I'm sure they would have know about this before now. And I have to admit, I like TMC articles, not all of them, but they are nearly always a good read, and the debates are fantastic. Not to mention, the writers of the Eve topics do play Eve and have to do all the ground work in the game itself so technically they are being paid isk to play eve and be in game so they're "technically" not breaking rules in regard to Eve articles... mittani alt There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3091
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:35:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:Because CCP doesnt want any free advertising to large gaming audiences...ever.
Guys please- think before you post.
Think before you post?
LOL what a dull forum this would be.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Laserak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
122
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:43:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Leigh Akiga wrote:Because CCP doesnt want any free advertising to large gaming audiences...ever.
Guys please- think before you post. Think before you post? LOL what a dull forum this would be. Mr Epeen
This forum needs the Hratli Smirks guide to posting |
Black Canary Jnr
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:02:00 -
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Eve news 24 so bad.
The 24 refers to how many hours it takes them to get their news after TMC has posted it, and done a 10x better article.
Oh and they have reverted to posting opinion pieces and reposting blogs. I doubt they even read the cr*p gevlon goblin puts up. 'ganking takes l33t pvp skills', 'look at mah killboard, i'm elite pvp', 'everyone just hates me cos i'm so l3333t and their arguments are invalid'. It's like watching a slow descent into insanity.
And thats why TMC is 100000 times better than EN24.
and that's also why en24 is the worst RMTer atm and riverni should be perma banned.
lols. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
1313
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:33:00 -
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Both sotes will pay ISK for articles, and they make cash from advertising...
It's the only form of RMT that's allowed... Support my (possibly dumb) Ideas!! Worm Rebalance!!! |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Time and all Eternity HumAnnoyeD
82
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:35:00 -
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Somer Blink employees get paid in ISK and real life chunks of dough and they get some special edition scorpions . . .
Seriously though: Posting in stealth 'Feed TMCs ad revenue wallet'. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! |
Cameron Freerunner
Long Jump.
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:38:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:This is so far in the really-really obvious category that I'm absolutely confident TMC has permission. That implies that exceptions to the ToS and EULA can be made. |
Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
128
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:02:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote: mittani alt
Confirming that I am the great almighty, all powerful leader of fhe Goonswarm Federation.
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Hueid
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:03:00 -
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Cameron Freerunner wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:This is so far in the really-really obvious category that I'm absolutely confident TMC has permission. That implies that exceptions to the ToS and EULA can be made.
Exactly
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Somer Blink employees get paid in ISK and real life chunks of dough and they get some special edition scorpions . . .
Yes, somer employees get paid in ISK, for updating wallet status/posting contracts, both of which are done IN-GAME and therefore are not a violation of EULA/ToS. |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Time and all Eternity HumAnnoyeD
82
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:05:00 -
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Hueid wrote:Cameron Freerunner wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:This is so far in the really-really obvious category that I'm absolutely confident TMC has permission. That implies that exceptions to the ToS and EULA can be made. Exactly Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Somer Blink employees get paid in ISK and real life chunks of dough and they get some special edition scorpions . . .
Yes, somer employees get paid in ISK, for updating wallet status/posting contracts, both of which are done IN-GAME and therefore are not a violation of EULA/ToS.
Doesn't explain the personal ISK commission they get for selling GTCs. Also I like your selective quoting. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! |
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Hueid
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:20:00 -
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Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Hueid wrote:Cameron Freerunner wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:This is so far in the really-really obvious category that I'm absolutely confident TMC has permission. That implies that exceptions to the ToS and EULA can be made. Exactly Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Somer Blink employees get paid in ISK and real life chunks of dough and they get some special edition scorpions . . .
Yes, somer employees get paid in ISK, for updating wallet status/posting contracts, both of which are done IN-GAME and therefore are not a violation of EULA/ToS. Doesn't explain the personal ISK commission they get for selling GTCs. Also I like you.
I didn't know that they got ISK for selling GTC's and if that is true I don't know where it fits in the ToS though its an interesting proposition.
I don't know you well enough to like you, but im open to it so lets take it slow for now. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4844
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:42:00 -
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Hueid wrote:Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Hueid wrote:Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Somer Blink employees get paid in ISK and real life chunks of dough and they get some special edition scorpions . . . Yes, somer employees get paid in ISK, for updating wallet status/posting contracts, both of which are done IN-GAME and therefore are not a violation of EULA/ToS. Doesn't explain the personal ISK commission they get for selling GTCs. Also I like you. I didn't know that they got ISK for selling GTC's and if that is true I don't know where it fits in the ToS though its an interesting proposition. I don't know you well enough to like you, but im open to it so lets take it slow for now. CCP said it was fine.
Actually, it wasn't enough so they needed some special scorpion presents There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Time and all Eternity HumAnnoyeD
84
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Posted - 2013.10.18 11:10:00 -
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Hueid wrote: I don't know you well enough to like you, but im open to it so lets take it slow for now.
No kissing on the first date. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
206
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:28:00 -
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please leave those newsite alone , GD is not enough to keep me busy at work , okey? The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Herr Kutz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:05:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Hueid wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Pretty sure TMC sells GTC? (Correct me if I am wrong).
Also, TMC isn't just for Eve. Its a gaming news website not just aimed at Eve Online. Sure it might have sprouted from it but even so... I agree, but they pay for non-eve related articles with ISK which is a violation of the TOS.... I actually never knew that... And if it's true then they must have been givem permission to do so... They probably wouldn't have lasted as long as they have if not... Edit: Just finished reading the second link. Huh go figure they do pay with isk... Either way they must have been given express permission otherwise they wouldn't be doing it / have been doing it this long.
Isn't this the same argument that was shouted down from EVE-GAMES?
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flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1529
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:11:00 -
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Black Canary Jnr wrote:Eve news 24 so bad.
The 24 refers to how many hours it takes them to get their news after TMC has posted it, and done a 10x better article.
Oh and they have reverted to posting opinion pieces and reposting blogs. I doubt they even read the cr*p gevlon goblin puts up. 'ganking takes l33t pvp skills', 'look at mah killboard, i'm elite pvp', 'everyone just hates me cos i'm so l3333t and their arguments are invalid'. It's like watching a slow descent into insanity.And thats why TMC is 100000 times better than EN24.
and that's also why en24 is the worst RMTer atm and riverni should be perma banned.
lols.
You forgot ' And i'm so frikking spacerich i am THE marketeer of marketeers' ...
Just trying to help out ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1668
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:11:00 -
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Cameron Freerunner wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:This is so far in the really-really obvious category that I'm absolutely confident TMC has permission. That implies that exceptions to the ToS and EULA can be made. duh |
Herr Kutz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:14:00 -
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Quote:Quote:Quote:Exactly Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Somer Blink employees get paid in ISK and real life chunks of dough and they get some special edition scorpions . . .
Yes, somer employees get paid in ISK, for updating wallet status/posting contracts, both of which are done IN-GAME and therefore are not a violation of EULA/ToS. Doesn't explain the personal ISK commission they get for selling GTCs. Also I like you. I didn't know that they got ISK for selling GTC's and if that is true I don't know where it fits in the ToS though its an interesting proposition. I don't know you well enough to like you, but im open to it so lets take it slow for now.
SOMER gets paid for the GTC referral. SOMER's "employees" don't. They get paid in isk (or so a SOMER employee told me and according to their website). |
Hueid
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:09:00 -
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Herr Kutz wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Hueid wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Pretty sure TMC sells GTC? (Correct me if I am wrong).
Also, TMC isn't just for Eve. Its a gaming news website not just aimed at Eve Online. Sure it might have sprouted from it but even so... I agree, but they pay for non-eve related articles with ISK which is a violation of the TOS.... I actually never knew that... And if it's true then they must have been givem permission to do so... They probably wouldn't have lasted as long as they have if not... Edit: Just finished reading the second link. Huh go figure they do pay with isk... Either way they must have been given express permission otherwise they wouldn't be doing it / have been doing it this long. Isn't this the same argument that was shouted down from EVE-GAMES?
It wouldn't surprise me, if you don't believe that its a violation of the EULA/TOS file a petition and ask the GM's if you can buy articles with ISK, they'll say no...I just don't know how so many have gotten away with it.... |
Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:20:00 -
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Herr Kutz wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Hueid wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Pretty sure TMC sells GTC? (Correct me if I am wrong).
Also, TMC isn't just for Eve. Its a gaming news website not just aimed at Eve Online. Sure it might have sprouted from it but even so... I agree, but they pay for non-eve related articles with ISK which is a violation of the TOS.... I actually never knew that... And if it's true then they must have been givem permission to do so... They probably wouldn't have lasted as long as they have if not... Edit: Just finished reading the second link. Huh go figure they do pay with isk... Either way they must have been given express permission otherwise they wouldn't be doing it / have been doing it this long. Isn't this the same argument that was shouted down from EVE-GAMES?
Honestly couldn't say bud... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
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