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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1396
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:28:00 -
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i am starting a new sevice... i call it siphon squad... i will personally monitor your poses for siphons. my only charge is erotic dancers, fedos and a nude photo of bea Arthur. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
EI Digin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1272
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:52:00 -
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The question I have is, why does the most successful fight generator out there with probably the most fair mechanics have to be modified? Aren't there other ways you can help out smaller playergroups without messing with moon mining?
(Hint: It's not easy to farm deep nullsec moons if your supply chain is being disrupted.) |
Ereshgikal
Pigs and Sows
11
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:52:00 -
[933] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:i am starting a new sevice... i call it siphon squad... i will personally monitor your poses for siphons. my only charge is erotic dancers, fedos and a nude photo of bea Arthur.
How can you monitor a POS for syphons when you are blind? |
Old Man Sam
Fishy Old Men in Space
0
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:04:00 -
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While even coming from my fingertips, this idea is so stupid I want to melt myself for saying it: Siphon yourself.
I'm not joking. Get small guns and put them out around your pos, and syphon every last drop out. Greifers dont get an advantage to putting more down, you get more storage (the more siphons you add, the more storage you get) and you own the syphons. Insert bubbles around your pos, and no one can steal your stuff without incredible resolve (assumming blues dont steal, your pos kills any idiot haulers taking your goo, and interdictors who try to fast steal are gonna spend hours flying back and forth).
Rubicon: Because we can. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
838
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:13:00 -
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Aryth wrote:Yeah, the cost isn't balanced at all. These things will pay for itself (including waste) in the time a regular tower owner sleeps. It is one thing if a tower owner can reasonably find it in the time that it might equate to a loss for the placer greater than the profit gained. It is quite another if you can just mass spray them cross entire portions of EVE and be virtually assured of payback.
The cost should not be balanced at a few hours and probably should be set at at least 12-18 hours. Is that really reasonable to require every tower owner to check their tower 3 times a day? This is exactly why skill queues were implemented and that was far less of a burden.
Balance the cost much higher. 10m that gets returned in just 2-5 hours is silly and not remotely balanced and is only going to mean mass spraying across EVE and end up as spam more than interaction.
nice those bitter goon tears, please go on... ... |
M1k3y Koontz
Thorn Project Surely You're Joking
355
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:16:00 -
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Ereshgikal wrote:MeBiatch wrote:i am starting a new sevice... i call it siphon squad... i will personally monitor your poses for siphons. my only charge is erotic dancers, fedos and a nude photo of bea Arthur. How can you monitor a POS for syphons when you are blind?
I laughed, I don't even know who Bea Arthur is, but I laughed. How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
PotatoOverdose
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
409
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:44:00 -
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EI Digin wrote:The question I have is, why does the most successful fight generator out there with probably the most fair mechanics have to be modified? AHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAAAAAAHAHAhahaahha HAHAHAHHAAAAHHAAAHAHAahahahahha... *gasp* *wheeze* Oh man....that was good....
Yeah no, it was such a good mechanic it was listed as one of the most problematic aspects of eve in more CSM minutes and notes than I would care to count for years on end.
It was so fair and balanced that it had to be nerfed repeatedly, and entire new mechanics (alchemy) had to be created around it.
Nice try, and enjoy the new competition. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4860
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:02:00 -
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Old Man Sam wrote:While even coming from my fingertips, this idea is so stupid I want to melt myself for saying it: Siphon yourself.
I'm not joking. Get small guns and put them out around your pos, and syphon every last drop out. Greifers dont get an advantage to putting more down, you get more storage (the more siphons you add, the more storage you get) and you own the syphons. Insert bubbles around your pos, and no one can steal your stuff without incredible resolve (assumming blues dont steal, your pos kills any idiot haulers taking your goo, and interdictors who try to fast steal are gonna spend hours flying back and forth).
Rubicon: Because we can. 50km of bubbles? Or just preventing people from taking it out of "your" siphon?
Also, you lose 20% of what is siphoned into the air .... which is ok i guess. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Frankster Ijonen
No tax for you
8
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:02:00 -
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mynnna wrote:The drawback ought to come because you're out to steal my stuff, not because of some automated system that punishes me for not monitoring the POS 24/7. If the contents of the silo are still there by the time I come to get it, either you left and may never have had intent to steal my stuff in the first place, or I beat you in ~~~honourable space combat~~~ when you were defending it to get my stuff back.
By allowing two different strategies of siphon placement (20% interdiction vs steal resources) the mechanic has greater depth than your appeal to tilde tilde tilde honourable space combat tilde tilde tilde. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
767
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:02:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: nice those bitter goon tears, please go on...
Ah, good, there we g--oh wait, this one doesn't count. Can we get someone else to come up with a "goon tears" post for this page please? Harry Forever says "goon tears" to alarm clocks, ringing phones, and barking dogs.
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PotatoOverdose
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
410
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:08:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Harry Forever wrote: nice those bitter goon tears, please go on...
Ah, good, there we g--oh wait, this one doesn't count. Can we get someone else to come up with a "goon tears" post for this page please? Harry Forever says "goon tears" to alarm clocks, ringing phones, and barking dogs. Ask and ye shall receive.
Every time a goon cries in this thread, Chuck Norris adopts an animal-shelter kitten. Please continue crying, and cry gratuitously. Together we can prevent a tragedy. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:09:00 -
[942] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Aryth wrote:Yeah, the cost isn't balanced at all. These things will pay for itself (including waste) in the time a regular tower owner sleeps. It is one thing if a tower owner can reasonably find it in the time that it might equate to a loss for the placer greater than the profit gained. It is quite another if you can just mass spray them cross entire portions of EVE and be virtually assured of payback.
The cost should not be balanced at a few hours and probably should be set at at least 12-18 hours. Is that really reasonable to require every tower owner to check their tower 3 times a day? This is exactly why skill queues were implemented and that was far less of a burden.
Balance the cost much higher. 10m that gets returned in just 2-5 hours is silly and not remotely balanced and is only going to mean mass spraying across EVE and end up as spam more than interaction.
nice those bitter goon tears, please go on... Ah Harry Forever, confusing our tears of mirth with bitter tears. CCP is going to hand everyone the greatist griefing tool EVE has seen since remote doomsdays, and he thinks we are crying bitter tears. Seriously it's like we are Cassandra, blessed with the power of prophecy, yet cursed with no one believing our prophecy. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Miner Hottie
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
22
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:12:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Miner Hottie wrote:Expressing my understanding of your point and position. Don't agree with it, but eh, CCP is determined to ignore us and implement this and then they will nerf it to oblivion once goons complete the cycle of deliberate abuse that has started now that they have warned CCP about it being OP. Oh you noticed the cycle ... Still working on drone assist, it appears they are PERFECTLY BALANCED and cannot be abused
I didn't imply with this comment that CCP were in any way shape or form, on the ball in dealing with the "Goon Broken Feature Cycle of Abuse" It's all about how hot my mining lasers get. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4861
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:14:00 -
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Miner Hottie wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Miner Hottie wrote:Expressing my understanding of your point and position. Don't agree with it, but eh, CCP is determined to ignore us and implement this and then they will nerf it to oblivion once goons complete the cycle of deliberate abuse that has started now that they have warned CCP about it being OP. Oh you noticed the cycle ... Still working on drone assist, it appears they are PERFECTLY BALANCED and cannot be abused I didn't imply with this comment that CCP were in any way shape or form, on the ball in dealing with the "Goon Broken Feature Cycle of Abuse" If they were the features wouldn' be released in an abuseably broken manner.
But they aren't, and thus we can have fun.
GOON TEARRSSSSSSSSS There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
PotatoOverdose
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
410
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:19:00 -
[945] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote: If they were the features wouldn' be released in an abuseably broken manner.
But they aren't, and thus we can have fun.
GOON TEARRSSSSSSSSS
Curious, how do the goons plan on abusing this feature when the CFC holds most of the valuable moons? What are you gonna do, mass siphon N3? See if anyone cares, their moons don't hold a candle to yours.
No one else has sufficiently large siphon-able assets. This is gonna be FUN. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4861
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:22:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: If they were the features wouldn' be released in an abuseably broken manner.
But they aren't, and thus we can have fun.
GOON TEARRSSSSSSSSS
Curious, how do the goons plan on abusing this feature when the CFC holds most of the valuable moons? What are you gonna do, mass siphon N3? See if anyone cares, their moons don't hold a candle to yours. No one else has sufficiently large siphon-able assets. This is gonna be FUN. Exactly, see the goon cryingggg
tearsssss There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Southern Kros
LOW SEC MINING
2
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:27:00 -
[947] - Quote
Sure looks like goons issued a CTA to this dev blog.
Maybe they don't like the idea that their precious AFK moon mining will actually require them to stop ratting and get off their arse to manage them.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
769
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:27:00 -
[948] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:Seriously it's like we are Cassandra, blessed with the power of prophecy, yet cursed with no one believing our prophecy.
Imagine if Cassandra had a bookie. We're that Cassandra.
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Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:28:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: If they were the features wouldn' be released in an abuseably broken manner.
But they aren't, and thus we can have fun.
GOON TEARRSSSSSSSSS
Curious, how do the goons plan on abusing this feature when the CFC holds most of the valuable moons? What are you gonna do, mass siphon N3? See if anyone cares, their moons don't hold a candle to yours. No one else has sufficiently large siphon-able assets. This is gonna be FUN. You have all the peices, you just have to put them together. GOONNNN TEARRRSSSSSSSS!!!! You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4861
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:30:00 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: If they were the features wouldn' be released in an abuseably broken manner.
But they aren't, and thus we can have fun.
GOON TEARRSSSSSSSSS
Curious, how do the goons plan on abusing this feature when the CFC holds most of the valuable moons? What are you gonna do, mass siphon N3? See if anyone cares, their moons don't hold a candle to yours. No one else has sufficiently large siphon-able assets. This is gonna be FUN. You have all the peices, you just have to put them together. GOONNNN TEARRRSSSSSSSS!!!! I'm cryinggggggg There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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Benjamin Hamburg
SnaiLs aNd FroGs Verge of Collapse
34
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:31:00 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: If they were the features wouldn' be released in an abuseably broken manner.
But they aren't, and thus we can have fun.
GOON TEARRSSSSSSSSS
Curious, how do the goons plan on abusing this feature when the CFC holds most of the valuable moons? What are you gonna do, mass siphon N3? See if anyone cares, their moons don't hold a candle to yours. No one else has sufficiently large siphon-able assets. This is gonna be FUN. You have all the peices, you just have to put them together. GOONNNN TEARRRSSSSSSSS!!!!
spin it moar |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
769
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:31:00 -
[952] - Quote
Southern Kros wrote:Sure looks like goons issued a CTA to this dev blog.
Maybe they don't like the idea that their precious AFK moon mining will actually require them to stop ratting and get off their arse to manage them.
Ah, yes, the legendary goon posting CTA. I was wondering when that would come up. Yes, an alliance of thousands, recruited from a forum of active posters and requiring an active posting history on said forum, actually needs to have a CTA to have a dozen or so of its members come post on this blog.
You're just not very bright, are you. Poor thing. |
PotatoOverdose
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
410
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:33:00 -
[953] - Quote
Mmmmm.....Relevant. |
Southern Kros
LOW SEC MINING
2
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:35:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Southern Kros wrote:Sure looks like goons issued a CTA to this dev blog.
Maybe they don't like the idea that their precious AFK moon mining will actually require them to stop ratting and get off their arse to manage them.
Ah, yes, the legendary goon posting CTA. I was wondering when that would come up. Yes, an alliance of thousands, recruited from a forum of active posters and requiring an active posting history on said forum, actually needs to have a CTA to have a dozen or so of its members come post on this blog. You're just not very bright, are you. Poor thing.
Well, your the goon, and lets be honest, lemmings are not the brightest lamp in the street. Leave being bright to the ones that are. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
769
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:36:00 -
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Hahaha you like South Park. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
462
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:38:00 -
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Southern Kros wrote:Sure looks like goons issued a CTA to this dev blog.
Maybe they don't like the idea that their precious AFK moon mining will actually require them to stop ratting and get off their arse to manage them.
Who needs a CTA when, the major function of this thread is to point and laugh. I mean dumb pubbies whos mating call seems to be " Goon tears" and CCP rolling out a hilariously bad game mechanic, all that is left is for us to wait for a few months while the T2 market sharts it's jorts, who could resist. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
769
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:38:00 -
[957] - Quote
Southern Kros wrote: Well, your the goon, and lets be honest, lemmings are not the brightest lamp in the street. Leave being bright to the ones that are.
Now this is special. |
Miner Hottie
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
22
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:38:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:i am starting a new sevice... i call it siphon squad... i will personally monitor your poses for siphons. my only charge is erotic dancers, fedos and a nude photo of bea Arthur.
I don't want my breakfast anymore..... It's all about how hot my mining lasers get. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4861
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:40:00 -
[959] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:Southern Kros wrote:Sure looks like goons issued a CTA to this dev blog.
Maybe they don't like the idea that their precious AFK moon mining will actually require them to stop ratting and get off their arse to manage them. Who needs a CTA when, the major function of this thread is to point and laugh. I mean dumb pubbies whos mating call seems to be " Goon tears" and CCP rolling out a hilariously bad game mechanic, all that is left is for us to wait for a few months while the T2 market sharts it's jorts, who could resist. Actually, it's always the same dozen or so goons. There's a reason for that... There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
769
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:42:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote: Actually, it's always the same dozen or so goons. There's a reason for that...
None of us wants to actually log in to Eve. |
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