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Khoul Ay'd
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
111
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:12:00 -
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Arrendis wrote:Southern Kros wrote: lemmings are not the brightest lamp in the street And yet, clearly lemmings are smarter than the people who talk about them like they're stupid little creatures. You do know that whole 'lemmings running off of a cliff to drown' thing was staged, right? That the Disney producers had the scene filmed from below the edge of the cliff because the lemmings wouldn't suicide, so they were throwing them over the cliff? Honestly, people getting basic facts wrong while trying to insult someone's intelligence... it's like the internet is full of morons!
I suppose next you'll lie to us and tell us Flower and Thumper did more than snuggle in the briar patch with their mates?
The analogy holds true, CCP is offer to toss you off a cliff with this thing. Where's the largest populations in EVE? And what are the 'other' siphoners gonna siphon? Mark my words its the little guys that are gonna end up paying, not the Null Alliances. The things we do today we must live with forever.... Think about it |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4867
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:18:00 -
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Khoul Ay'd wrote:Arrendis wrote:Southern Kros wrote: lemmings are not the brightest lamp in the street And yet, clearly lemmings are smarter than the people who talk about them like they're stupid little creatures. You do know that whole 'lemmings running off of a cliff to drown' thing was staged, right? That the Disney producers had the scene filmed from below the edge of the cliff because the lemmings wouldn't suicide, so they were throwing them over the cliff? Honestly, people getting basic facts wrong while trying to insult someone's intelligence... it's like the internet is full of morons! I suppose next you'll lie to us and tell us Flower and Thumper did more than snuggle in the briar patch with their mates? The analogy holds true, CCP is offer to toss you off a cliff with this thing. Where's the largest populations in EVE? And what are the 'other' siphoners gonna siphon? Mark my words its the little guys that are gonna end up paying, not the Null Alliances. It's ok though, as long as goons lose more. Thanks for taking a hit so that the goons will be hurt somewhat
Wait the largest population in eve is highsec miners/mission runners There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Arrendis
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
73
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:25:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Arrendis wrote:it's like the internet is full of morons!
It, uh, is.
Don't you go spoiling my idealistic visions of a vast world-spanning network where intelligent people can communicate in erudite, carefully-written exchanges of well-thought-out ideas, leading to productive conversations that actually advance mutual understa-...
... ok, I can't even finish that thought without cracking up. I'm'a go back to reading Poptart's 'Let's All Play Battletech and Re-Write the History of the Inner Sphere' LP. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4867
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:27:00 -
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Arrendis wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Arrendis wrote:it's like the internet is full of morons!
It, uh, is. Don't you go spoiling my idealistic visions of a vast world-spanning network where intelligent people can communicate in erudite, carefully-written exchanges of well-thought-out ideas, leading to productive conversations that actually advance mutual understa-... ... ok, I can't even finish that thought without cracking up. I'm'a go back to reading Poptart's 'Let's All Play Battletech and Re-Write the History of the Inner Sphere' LP. our secret goonfleetdotcom forums
screw around anywhere important and deadtear will show you out There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Arrendis
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
73
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:27:00 -
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I'm back now. Only 3 new posts. |
Arrendis
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
73
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:28:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Arrendis wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Arrendis wrote:it's like the internet is full of morons!
It, uh, is. Don't you go spoiling my idealistic visions of a vast world-spanning network where intelligent people can communicate in erudite, carefully-written exchanges of well-thought-out ideas, leading to productive conversations that actually advance mutual understa-... ... ok, I can't even finish that thought without cracking up. I'm'a go back to reading Poptart's 'Let's All Play Battletech and Re-Write the History of the Inner Sphere' LP. our secret goonfleetdotcom forums screw around anywhere important and deadtear will show you out
Nah, the LP's over on SA, in predictably enough, the LP forum. |
Von Keigai
16
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:35:00 -
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CCP SoniClover wrote:Couple of things we're contemplating:
a) reduce waste factor from 20% to 10%
b) have a character limit on how many siphons you can deploy (i.e. have in space at the same time). This would probably be in the 5 to 10 range.
Let me know what you think.
(b) is just bad. Please, limit stupid limits. Siphons are cheap: fire and forget. It should not even have an owner. And yet you are planning to limit it? What if I have placed all of mine out in MNVX-27, I want to launch another? Are you going to let me evaporate one at range? Ugh.
I am indifferent to (a). I just don't see the loss as an issue. 10% is fine. Even 0% is fine.
The problem with siphons is not that they create waste. It is that they induce awful gameplay without adding much by way of cool gameplay. Specifically, they encourage checking a POS continually in order to get info about a costly event. The theft is happening hourly, it is substantial, and there is no warning of it except looking. You have to check.
Yes, the market will work its magic. As POS owners find extraction unprofitable, they leave the business, and prices rise. Eventually there is stability, where the price is high enough that the remaining producers make a profit even though they are losing 20% or whatever to siphons. But the underlying nasty game dynamic is unchanged. The way to compete, to stay profitable, is to check more often than the other guys. So the guys leaving the market will be those that have jobs and lives. The remaining ones are those who can check, if not every hour, every few hours at worst. They are all competing against each other to be the one that checks most diligently. This is unfun for all owners, but they cannot opt out of the race against each other without becoming unprofitable.
Further, siphons do not generate much PVP. About the most you can say about that is that perhaps some people will get killed trying to sneak across nullsec in their blockade runners loaded with siphons. But in terms of what happens at a POS, nothing. If the owner discovers the thing, he goes out and takes back the goo. Then he blows up the siphon using POS guns or a few minutes of Dominix. Leave a domi and gardes at each pos, sitting there, waiting for use. If a thief finds a siphon, he nips in cloaked and aligned, checks and grabs, and is out of there. The POS won't stop him and neither will anything except maybe an interceptor sitting close. If there is an interceptor, the thief does not uncloak. But an interceptor is highly unlikely, since there is no reason for the POS owner to believe that a thief will come at any particular time.
The real problem is the asynchronous design. I realize this seems like a feature to some, but it's bad. Siphons should generate conflict. Make them steal a substantial chunk but much less often, and notify both their owner and the thief at the same time, a time that neither one can predict. This is what I proposed a few pages back. Most of the time, one guy or the other will show up unopposed, because the other one is asleep or at work. Or because the POS owner is absentee and the thief is local. But at least part of the time (and more on weekends), both will show up at about the same time. Then, at least there is a chance for some interesting interaction. Not necessarily at the POS; it could be at a gate. The point is that you are encouraging both the thief and the owner to come, and at the same time. vonkeigai.blogspot.com |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4867
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:41:00 -
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CCP SoniClover wrote:Couple of things we're contemplating:
a) reduce waste factor from 20% to 10%
b) have a character limit on how many siphons you can deploy (i.e. have in space at the same time). This would probably be in the 5 to 10 range.
Let me know what you think. The second really incentives people who are able to put lots and lots of characters into such a job
I don't know who would best make use of such mechanics There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4869
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Posted - 2013.10.19 05:08:00 -
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Siegefleet, meet SiphonFleet
goon tears There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4373
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Posted - 2013.10.19 05:14:00 -
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CCP SoniClover wrote:Hey guys, thanks for all the good feedback. Couple of things we're contemplating:
a) reduce waste factor from 20% to 10%
b) have a character limit on how many siphons you can deploy (i.e. have in space at the same time). This would probably be in the 5 to 10 range.
Let me know what you think. Can you add a character limit on how many POS you can maintain too?... . |
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4373
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Posted - 2013.10.19 05:26:00 -
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Tippia wrote:CCP SoniClover wrote:Let me know what you think. I think I still want to know what the design goal behind making the API lie is. Because the information it would provide would render this wonderful addition to the game pointless. I guess why log into the game and play it when API program can play it for you right?... . |
Saissore Foo
Weaponised FuGu
0
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Posted - 2013.10.19 05:46:00 -
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Quote:b) have a character limit on how many siphons you can deploy (i.e. have in space at the same time). This would probably be in the 5 to 10 range.
If this is for the little guy and not for the massed alliances, make it a skill base for number of concurrent deployed siphons.
say 1 siphon per skill point with two levels of skill being available (similar to planetology/advanced planetology)
Not a barrier to anyone that wants to concentrate on using siphons, but a real limitation to an entire alliance dropping masses on smaller corps.
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Miner Hottie
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
24
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Posted - 2013.10.19 06:30:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:CCP SoniClover wrote:Hey guys, thanks for all the good feedback. Couple of things we're contemplating:
a) reduce waste factor from 20% to 10%
b) have a character limit on how many siphons you can deploy (i.e. have in space at the same time). This would probably be in the 5 to 10 range.
Let me know what you think. Can you add a limit on the number of POS you can maintain too?... Also if you are so dead set on having waste you should have made it vent into space as small moon rocks that can be probed down or something that disappear in 30 days. Go to a belt, planet or something and behold, Technetium oil spill from a nearby moon...
Sure you can have a POS limit, when CCP allows personal POS instead then being tied to corps. Oh, wait that would require fiddling with old code that makes the devs soil their underwear when they look at it. Guess they will just go screw around with faked API data feeds instead, what could possibly go wrong? It's all about how hot my mining lasers get. |
Omega Flames
Forever Winter The Kingdom of Heaven
59
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Posted - 2013.10.19 06:50:00 -
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Ludi Burek wrote:How is it even physically possible to be so dumb and claim moon mining/reacting is passive income? By that logic everything you do is passive coz you put the stuff up for sale and "passively wait", right? Let's ignore everything done up until then. As someone who owns a bunch of ghetto moons in low sec (read not the 64s) I can see this become extremely annoying. Annoying enough to stop bothering because low sec with the lack of bubbles is the lowest hanging fruit and people will quickly realize it. What really grinds my gears is the dumb ***** who think only goons own moons and it's all about the nullsec alliances, sticking it to the big boys etc... Because a single player cannot possible run 20+ poses right? It's a corp endeavor, terrible people unsuccessful at everything, grinding together their lone platinum moon... CCP again screws over individuals with initiative. this exactly, most of the low sec moon mining pos's arent owned by any large null sec alliance. yes the some of the most profitable ones are but the majority are the small corps who just dont have the man power to constantly be checking pos's. Not to mention the small corps dont have anyone on the batphone to call for help if someone does decide to take thier pos, they must defend it themselves. Now not only do we have to worry about traveling throu hostile territory to get to/from our pos and high but we also have to do regular patrols to prevent someone from stealing from us? pos's are broken enough as is, why the **** are you breaking them even more? <Munnkeh> i'm gonna use that excuse if i ever kill someone. "look, if you keep meeting ppl, it's bound to happen eventually" http://i.imgur.com/76pQ9.jpg |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4869
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Posted - 2013.10.19 07:00:00 -
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Omega Flames wrote:Ludi Burek wrote:How is it even physically possible to be so dumb and claim moon mining/reacting is passive income? By that logic everything you do is passive coz you put the stuff up for sale and "passively wait", right? Let's ignore everything done up until then. As someone who owns a bunch of ghetto moons in low sec (read not the 64s) I can see this become extremely annoying. Annoying enough to stop bothering because low sec with the lack of bubbles is the lowest hanging fruit and people will quickly realize it. What really grinds my gears is the dumb ***** who think only goons own moons and it's all about the nullsec alliances, sticking it to the big boys etc... Because a single player cannot possible run 20+ poses right? It's a corp endeavor, terrible people unsuccessful at everything, grinding together their lone platinum moon... CCP again screws over individuals with initiative. this exactly, most of the low sec moon mining pos's arent owned by any large null sec alliance. yes the some of the most profitable ones are but the majority are the small corps who just dont have the man power to constantly be checking pos's. Not to mention the small corps dont have anyone on the batphone to call for help if someone does decide to take thier pos, they must defend it themselves. Now not only do we have to worry about traveling throu hostile territory to get to/from our pos and high but we also have to do regular patrols to prevent someone from stealing from us? pos's are broken enough as is, why the **** are you breaking them even more? these are not the goon tears i was looking for There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Herr Esiq
Dirt Nap Squad
72
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Posted - 2013.10.19 07:21:00 -
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Conquerable poco's: "just wardeck them and shoot it for hours hurdurrr" Siphon units: "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4869
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Posted - 2013.10.19 07:27:00 -
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Herr Esiq wrote:Conquerable poco's: "just wardeck them and shoot it for hours hurdurrr" Siphon units: "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" goon tearssssss There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
marly cortez
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.10.19 10:18:00 -
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PoS syphons, Just one more iteration emanating from the desiccated thought process of an individual that honestly believes that everyone plays EVE for the sole purpose of blowing up someone else;s S*** while utterly missing the point of EVE entirely, suggest you take a break from your play station FPS, Son and take long hard look at what you have spawned into the game and the short and long term ramifications of that action both in game and out.
API's that lie, that's a good one, virtually kills off all trust in that aspect.
Guns that will not shoot attacking structures, Magnificent.
Only needs two of them to shut down a PoS process, Utterly pointless.
If you really do want to make a change to the economic dynamics of EVE, Nerf Empire Markets and force players to use Contracts and Contacts to get what they need, you want player interaction, do that, then watch the game expand into the utter chaos you seem to crave so desperately. |
Fenrix Mernher
Critical Mass Inc. Nexus Fleet
6
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Posted - 2013.10.19 10:28:00 -
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The amount of posturing and whining by goons in this thread shows how good an idea it is.
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Miner Hottie
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
25
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Posted - 2013.10.19 10:36:00 -
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Fenrix Mernher wrote:The amount of posturing and whining by goons in this thread shows how good an idea it is.
Fry has some thoughts for you. It's all about how hot my mining lasers get. |
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Fenrix Mernher
Critical Mass Inc. Nexus Fleet
6
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Posted - 2013.10.19 11:08:00 -
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"ablooblooblooooo my precious afk moon money"
It'll be good for the game, vast empty passages of space should have vulnerable resource streams. |
Miner Hottie
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
25
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Posted - 2013.10.19 11:28:00 -
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Fenrix Mernher wrote:"ablooblooblooooo my precious afk moon money"
It'll be good for the game, vast empty passages of space should have vulnerable resource streams.
Others in this thread have already explained to your fellow low sloping foreheads why POS's aren't AFK income, but I doubt you understood it. Just like I doubt you'll understand what will happen when goons unleash this on everyone else. Anyway, as a member of the elite N3 coalition, why don't you form a fleet and conquer those valuable streams of income then?
Or is it too far below your elite self to engage in a structure bash? Reffed POS earns no income right now, no need for little sythons. It's all about how hot my mining lasers get. |
Zakhin Desver
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.10.19 11:36:00 -
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I am curious if goons can nerf the module before the expansion. Some people told me they did things like that before, but I want to see it with my eyes. |
Ereshgikal
Pigs and Sows
14
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Posted - 2013.10.19 11:49:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Tippia wrote:CCP SoniClover wrote:Let me know what you think. I think I still want to know what the design goal behind making the API lie is. Because the information it would provide would render this wonderful addition to the game pointless. I guess why log into the game and play it when API program can play it for you right?...
One of the things that makes EVE more special than other MMOs is the ability to permeate our time offline. How many don't have EVEmon/Aura/other tools set up to check evemails, notifications, skill queue notifications, etcetera? Remove that link to offline and EVE is worse off.
Marlona: Using the same logic as in your post there should be no notification about a POS being attacked, since you should really guard your POSs. And there should be no visible timer on the POS for reinforced mode since the attacker....you guessed it, should really stick around and check on when it exits reinforced mode. Personally I think that would be boring and I think that having the actions of the siphon hidden by the API would be boring. |
Sgt Ocker
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2013.10.19 12:04:00 -
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Altrue wrote:That's definitely good stuff :) I'm just dissapointed about not having other sizes and tech 2 variants.
Also, POS guns should not be able to target it even in manual mode... If you want to remove a siphon, you have to dirty your hands yourself ! The 2 months of training Starbase Defence Management and associated skills got my hands dirty enough to blow up a pos syphon.
CCP Tuxford wrote:Not. The API will lie about the content. Sorry thought that was clear. The whole concept of an API is accurate information, whether that be how much game time you have left, where your skill cue is at or most important of all, what the state of your assets is. With that being deliberately compromised it really does not show CCP in a good light. It is 1 thing to encourage a new way of stealing from others but it is another totally to actually be involved in the success of given thefts. Basically how it works is, someone puts a syphon on your pos and CCP will help them to steal your assets by making the API give you false information.
** I think CCP should rethink their position on falsifying API data. |
Siobhan Teregone
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.10.19 12:23:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Tippia wrote:CCP SoniClover wrote:Let me know what you think. I think I still want to know what the design goal behind making the API lie is. Because the information it would provide would render this wonderful addition to the game pointless. I guess why log into the game and play it when API program can play it for you right?...
The solution to the no-API, lying API or no-notificat is to have a character permanently logged on in a POS with overview only showing siphons. Once a siphon is visible on the character's screen, just message the owning player/corp/alliance. Eve is full of enthusiastic players able to sit seemingly all day doing absolutely nothing. Some players even have many such character running on their PC.
Unlike ratting or mining, this sort of activity involves the character doing absolutely nothing itself. I envisage these appearing in almost every system with a pos or reaction farm valuable enough to be worth alerting. Moon output prices are going to rise dramatically, and the cost of monitor the POS will be included in that price.
This would be a good time to invest in PLEX. |
Fenrix Mernher
Critical Mass Inc. Nexus Fleet
7
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Posted - 2013.10.19 12:48:00 -
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Miner Hottie wrote:Fenrix Mernher wrote:"ablooblooblooooo my precious afk moon money"
It'll be good for the game, vast empty passages of space should have vulnerable resource streams. Others in this thread have already explained to your fellow low sloping foreheads why POS's aren't AFK income, but I doubt you understood it. Just like I doubt you'll understand what will happen when goons unleash this on everyone else. Anyway, as a member of the elite N3 coalition, why don't you form a fleet and conquer those valuable streams of income then? Or is it too far below your elite self to engage in a structure bash? Reffed POS earns no income right now, no need for little sythons. I know exactly what will happen when 'goons unleash this on everybody else'. There'll be smaller fights on mining poses which won't have been pinged for days on end and will have a spontaneity to them which will be refreshing for the average F1 masher like myself.
Reffing a pos requires a fairly heavy commitment of subcaps, I could drop/pick up/destroy a bunch of siphons with some newbros in a bunch of cruisers and hope there's a brawl with the locals as I do so. Sounds much more fun to my mind. |
Siobhan Teregone
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.10.19 12:51:00 -
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Fenrix Mernher wrote:Miner Hottie wrote:Fenrix Mernher wrote:"ablooblooblooooo my precious afk moon money"
It'll be good for the game, vast empty passages of space should have vulnerable resource streams. Others in this thread have already explained to your fellow low sloping foreheads why POS's aren't AFK income, but I doubt you understood it. Just like I doubt you'll understand what will happen when goons unleash this on everyone else. Anyway, as a member of the elite N3 coalition, why don't you form a fleet and conquer those valuable streams of income then? Or is it too far below your elite self to engage in a structure bash? Reffed POS earns no income right now, no need for little sythons. I know exactly what will happen when 'goons unleash this on everybody else'. There'll be smaller fights on mining poses which won't have been pinged for days on end and will have a spontaneity to them which will be refreshing for the average F1 masher like myself. Reffing a pos requires a fairly heavy commitment of subcaps, I could drop/pick up/destroy a bunch of siphons with some newbros in a bunch of cruisers and hope there's a brawl with the locals as I do so. Sounds much more fun to my mind. You are assuming that griefing will include trying to harvest the goo rather than just ejecting it and trashing it using mainly afk cloaky bombers. There won't be fights .. just griefing to make the pos fuel costs more expensive than the successful ore harvest. |
Fenrix Mernher
Critical Mass Inc. Nexus Fleet
7
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Posted - 2013.10.19 12:56:00 -
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Siobhan Teregone wrote:Fenrix Mernher wrote:Miner Hottie wrote:Fenrix Mernher wrote:"ablooblooblooooo my precious afk moon money"
It'll be good for the game, vast empty passages of space should have vulnerable resource streams. Others in this thread have already explained to your fellow low sloping foreheads why POS's aren't AFK income, but I doubt you understood it. Just like I doubt you'll understand what will happen when goons unleash this on everyone else. Anyway, as a member of the elite N3 coalition, why don't you form a fleet and conquer those valuable streams of income then? Or is it too far below your elite self to engage in a structure bash? Reffed POS earns no income right now, no need for little sythons. I know exactly what will happen when 'goons unleash this on everybody else'. There'll be smaller fights on mining poses which won't have been pinged for days on end and will have a spontaneity to them which will be refreshing for the average F1 masher like myself. Reffing a pos requires a fairly heavy commitment of subcaps, I could drop/pick up/destroy a bunch of siphons with some newbros in a bunch of cruisers and hope there's a brawl with the locals as I do so. Sounds much more fun to my mind. You are assuming that griefing will include trying to harvest the goo rather than just ejecting it and trashing it using mainly afk cloaky bombers. There won't be fights .. just griefing to make the pos fuel costs more expensive than the successful ore harvest.
My heart bleeds for you. |
FistyMcBumBasher
Calamitous-Intent
57
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Posted - 2013.10.19 13:20:00 -
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First it should be said that I feel sorry for the Dev that has had to read this far into this abortion of a thread. But please be able to take a lot of these posts with a grain of salt, since a lot of people have ulterior motives.
Now, these siphons are definitely going to shake up moon mining incomes, which is the desired goal. They will also give everyone else a way to be a thorn in the side of larger absentee moon owners.
For 0.0 systems, what is stopping entities from siphoning their own pos'es, but keeping them perma bubbled with cans spammed around it to decloak anyone attempting to access the contents? Surely if the thief is de-cloaked long enough s/he will be pointed by the pos and then firmly dealt with.
All in all I like this idea, and it will definitely shake up the game like it is intended. Keep up the good work. |
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