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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.02 02:47:00 -
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stupid double post |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.11.02 02:48:00 -
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Pattern Clarc wrote:
First of all, the stats are on the public testing server. So, it's pathetic to suggest that we shouldn't offer comment until we see some final sort of state? (How the **** is it suppose to get there in any satisfactory state without feedback?)
yeah, isn't there an official thread in another forum where you can make those comments? or have they already thrown you out of it?
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
240
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Posted - 2011.11.02 02:49:00 -
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Morganta wrote:Pattern Clarc wrote:
First of all, the stats are on the public testing server. So, it's pathetic to suggest that we shouldn't offer comment until we see some final sort of state? (How the **** is it suppose to get there in any satisfactory state without feedback?)
yeah, isn't there an official thread in another forum where you can make those comments? or have they already thrown you out of it? Thanks for the bumping
/adds to the ignore list. Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2011.11.02 02:51:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:hmm so its like a mini mega with 8 nuetrons.... i dont mind that at all tbh... A mega with 1/5 the hp, no drones and 5 low slots? Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
234
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Posted - 2011.11.02 02:55:00 -
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Pattern Clarc wrote:
/adds to the forum drama list.
too bad you can't see that
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
90
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Posted - 2011.11.02 02:58:00 -
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Pattern Clarc wrote:MeBiatch wrote:hmm so its like a mini mega with 8 nuetrons.... i dont mind that at all tbh... A mega with 1/5 the hp, no drones and 5 low slots?
or more a mega and a Hyperion had a baby and this came... whats that with new javelin 600+ dps? with a tacking boost
tbh i was not a fan of the webber bonus so i am biased... |
Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2011.11.02 03:05:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Pattern Clarc wrote:MeBiatch wrote:hmm so its like a mini mega with 8 nuetrons.... i dont mind that at all tbh... A mega with 1/5 the hp, no drones and 5 low slots? or more a mega and a Hyperion had a baby and this came... whats that with new javelin 600+ dps? with a tacking boost tbh i was not a fan of the webber bonus so i am biased... Were as the Oracle = +damage and -cap and Tornado = epic fall off?
Shake out of it jimmy! With the mass additions, I think these things are just are a bit faster than BC's with less slots. And although players say they love glass cannons, the reality I fear is a lot different. Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
Yvan Ratamnim
Phoenix Evolved Part Duo
31
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Posted - 2011.11.02 03:17:00 -
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wow if this is true talos just went back to the hanger... wtf no web?!?!?!?! even in video they said a mini fragile vindicator! |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2011.11.02 03:26:00 -
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its still like a vindicator just swap the webber bonus for the tracking bonus...
if you want to use a 90% web get in a vigilant...
i still have fingers crossed for a second round of hybrid boosting... |
Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
46
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Posted - 2011.11.02 03:39:00 -
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Pattern Clarc wrote:Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. if your signature is to be believed (and I have no reason not to), could it be the case that you're taking this all a bit too personally? would you really be getting this worked up if it weren't "your" design?
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Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2011.11.02 03:40:00 -
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Pesky LaRue wrote:Pattern Clarc wrote:Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. if your signature is to be believed (and I have no reason not to), could it be the case that you're taking this all a bit too personally? would you really be getting this worked up if it weren't "your" design? I didn't design the Talos. Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
46
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Posted - 2011.11.02 03:52:00 -
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Pattern Clarc wrote:Pesky LaRue wrote:Pattern Clarc wrote:Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. if your signature is to be believed (and I have no reason not to), could it be the case that you're taking this all a bit too personally? would you really be getting this worked up if it weren't "your" design? I didn't design the Talos. your original post mentioned all the T3 BC's before focusing in on the Talos, and many of your posts have been about the general role of the ship and not the Talos specifically, but ok. Was just curious as you seem disproportionately bent out of shape about this. |
Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
96
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Posted - 2011.11.02 03:56:00 -
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LEAVE CCP ALONE CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Pattern Clarc
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Posted - 2011.11.02 03:58:00 -
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Pesky LaRue wrote:Pattern Clarc wrote:Pesky LaRue wrote:Pattern Clarc wrote:Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. if your signature is to be believed (and I have no reason not to), could it be the case that you're taking this all a bit too personally? would you really be getting this worked up if it weren't "your" design? I didn't design the Talos. your original post mentioned all the T3 BC's before focusing in on the Talos, and many of your posts have been about the general role of the ship and not the Talos specifically, but ok. Was just curious as you seem disproportionately bent out of shape about this. The majority of my posting on EVE-O over the last couple of months has been about Gallente.
Talos seemed to have a few party tricks, things that seemed to make it stand out. This is no longer the case and with gallente boost in it's current state, the odds of me anything gallente that isn't a proteus or capital anytime soon became slimmer. Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
16
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Posted - 2011.11.02 04:12:00 -
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Don't see a issue here they leveled gall ship not to have ewar and drones it would makeit op and usable as solo boat anyone that don't see this is frankly not trying for some reasons.
for the rest of changes i can only wait and see. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
214
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Posted - 2011.11.02 04:14:00 -
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They arent even available on the test server yet. hold your horses and go spew rage someplace else. |
Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2011.11.02 04:18:00 -
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Talos compared to the Thorax with Sisi stats... +1k EHP (welp) +60 Signature Radius +85m/s /w MWD +0.3 seconds align time +1 slot -50m3 Drones
This may not end well. Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries The Black Armada
29
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Posted - 2011.11.02 04:35:00 -
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CCP, by dropping the web bonus and drones you have brought the talos in line with what the rest of gallente has been for 8 years.
Leave them on there and if the ship is OP then tweak PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't pre-nurf the Gallente boat. a lot of people were looking forward to this buff to a Gallente ship
Thanks! Derp |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2011.11.02 05:01:00 -
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personally now that there are 3 tiers of bc's i would hope ccp balance them like this:
tier one have bs hitpoint but crusier damage
tier two have more then crusier hitpoints/damage but less then battleship hitpoints/damage
tier three have bs damage but crusier hit points... |
raney ilara
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 05:50:00 -
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leave my domi drone boat alone.. even with the speed boost it will still be slower than my grandma with out her walker. |
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Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
6
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Posted - 2011.11.02 05:57:00 -
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raney ilara wrote: leave my domi drone boat alone.. even with the speed boost it will still be slower than my grandma with out her walker.
If it makes your feel any better its still faster than a Maelstrom...and about twice as agile. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.11.02 07:08:00 -
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Thorax: 5 medium turrets, 5 medium drones. Talos: 8 large turrets.
Is that a fair tradeoff? Sure, I'd like to see the "mini vindicator" comment come to fruition. Perhaps CCP figured that a webifier bonus wasn't going to play into the role that they wanted to fill with this ship?
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knobber Jobbler
Holding Inc.
9
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Posted - 2011.11.02 07:15:00 -
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Interest in flying any of these has gone to 0. Might as well just fly a tier 2 bc or a hac. These new ships no longer offer anything with these stats. |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.02 07:41:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Thorax: 5 medium turrets, 5 medium drones. Talos: 8 large turrets.
Is that a fair tradeoff? Sure, I'd like to see the "mini vindicator" comment come to fruition. Perhaps CCP figured that a webifier bonus wasn't going to play into the role that they wanted to fill with this ship?
Could be. Webber means close range means blaster.
Effectively another diemost or brutix.
If they are supposed to be anti-cap weapons, that likely didn-¦t work out. And if using talos for it-¦s role resulted usually in instadeath and the other ships did far better because they didn-¦t have to close in, they are probably going for a railfit now and looking how that-¦s working out. "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
389
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Posted - 2011.11.02 08:29:00 -
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Offtopic posts removed. Please refrain from personal attacks on the forums.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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luZk
Jaegerkorpset
11
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Posted - 2011.11.02 08:37:00 -
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Tbh web bonus AND bs sized guns sounds a little overpowered to me. We dont want a bc that makes all the other obsolete now do we? |
Naari Talvanis
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.02 08:38:00 -
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Are the fitting slot layouts also known?
If we get at least 1 utility high slot it will be hard to dissapoint me.. |
Dziu
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.02 08:42:00 -
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People should stop bitching about sisi data dumps and see the ORIGINAL CONTENT that is coming rather then complaining on some "tests" |
Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
7
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Posted - 2011.11.02 08:46:00 -
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luZk wrote:Tbh web bonus AND bs sized guns sounds a little overpowered to me. We dont want a bc that makes all the other obsolete now do we?
That that tank it would get whompped one on one against a Mrym. |
Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
241
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Posted - 2011.11.02 08:47:00 -
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Naari Talvanis wrote:Are the fitting slot layouts also known?
If we get at least 1 utility high slot it will be hard to dissapoint me.. All ships get the same number of slots. 8 highs full of weapons (nothing stopping you from creating your own utility high there) and the same mids/lows as most tier 1 battlecruisers. So no, just about enough to fit a standard tank or gank +tackle fit really. Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
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