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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:04:00 -
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Hello Capsuleers
Dual Character training came along, and it was good! CCP Xhagen is now here to talk to you more about how it's going to become even better very soon with the introduction of multiple character training.
Check out his new Dev Blog for the latest information on what's up and coming with the character training system!
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Vicente Gasoil
Maraque Enterprises SteRoid.
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:14:00 -
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on topic: Nice addition. Nothing revolutionary, but it doesn't hurt at all |
DJWiggles
Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:14:00 -
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I have always liked the idea of training more than one toon per account, but the clincher for me is that you can only be on one toon per account so I would rather just have second account ..... oh wait i do Live on Eve Radio Wednesdays 20:00 GMT with me & friends blabbering on about Eve and stuff-áFollow me on twitter http://twitter.com/WigglesGRN, like me on facebook http://facebook.com/wigglesGRN or check out my blog http://wiggles.gamingradio.net/blog
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Lair Osen
Unlawful Unit Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:23:00 -
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"And come to think of it, I use another PLEX to extend the option to 60 days" Is this a new thing being changed from the current: only add time in the last 7 days option? Can we get more info about that? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:30:00 -
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Well, that was inevitable, wasn't it?
On a serious note, now that people will have yet another time-limited skill queue (per account) to keep track of, are you going to implement some clearer way to display exactly how much time is left on each multiple training payment? Yes, players could set calendar events and alerts, but it seems a bit silly that it isn't simply displayed on the account management page.
After all, the system already knows when the end-date is GÇö it couldn't refuse renewals before the last 7 days if it didn't. So why not expose that data to the account holder? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Kinis Deren
The Nyan Cat Pirates Disband.
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:36:00 -
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Awesome! I've found the dual character training to be very useful.
Is trifold character training available as of today? I couldn't see a date on the dev blog and I'm at work at the moment, so can't check it out myself |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:39:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Well, that was inevitable, wasn't it? On a serious note, now that people will have yet another time-limited skill queue (per account) to keep track of, are you going to implement some clearer way to display exactly how much time is left on each multiple training payment? Yes, players could set calendar events and alerts, but it seems a bit silly that it isn't simply displayed on the account management page. After all, the system already knows when the end-date is GÇö it couldn't refuse renewals before the last 7 days if it didn't. So why not expose that data to the account holder?
Was just coming to ask this myself. I have a second character training and would love to see a timer on the login screen or something like that. You don't see when it runs out unless you click on the character on the login screen. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:42:00 -
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cool ! We are recruiting german-speaking PVP players, contact me :)
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:43:00 -
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give this guy a drink on me... that was one well thought out and detailed dev blog... There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:44:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Well, that was inevitable, wasn't it? On a serious note, now that people will have yet another time-limited skill queue (per account) to keep track of, are you going to implement some clearer way to display exactly how much time is left on each multiple training payment? Yes, players could set calendar events and alerts, but it seems a bit silly that it isn't simply displayed on the account management page. After all, the system already knows when the end-date is GÇö it couldn't refuse renewals before the last 7 days if it didn't. So why not expose that data to the account holder?
i heard they are working on making a eve gate app with enhanced api capabilities that could have skill queue functions built in. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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Lair Osen
Unlawful Unit Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:44:00 -
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Also have any of the CCP economist/s examined the effect of Multi training on PLEX prices? Since they seem to be staying rather high atm? |
Maximus Andendare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:48:00 -
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Pretty nice quality-of-life change. I guess now we'll have *three* mains per account instead of *two*. :P Step onto the battlefield, and you're already dead, born again at the end of the battle to live on and fight another day.
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JetCord
People of Random Nature
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:55:00 -
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nice - when they will implement this? |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:56:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:Awesome! I've found the dual character training to be very useful. Is trifold character training available as of today? I couldn't see a date on the dev blog and I'm at work at the moment, so can't check it out myself
It's coming in Odyssey 1.2, so very soon(tm). CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
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Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:56:00 -
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I'm sorry but i just don't see the point in this, if it was cheaper somehow to run the accounts of your alts on one account, say like 45 days for a plex or longer then i would see a point to this, otherwise why not just have 3 separate accounts that you can then play at the same time or not as you choose, after all it actually costs the same other that that initial fee.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:57:00 -
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Pretty neat for those who need it. Good work.
/c
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Savira Terrant
Forsaken Identity Unchained.
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:07:00 -
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I wish this feature was easier to use or rather be implemented in a way to easier understand.
In my proposal, an active subcription would add 30 days of training time to an always active timer A. Which is used by a character with a flag set by the player. Then adding skilltime by means of MCT would add to a pool B of skilltime used by the remaining character without the flag, thus just sharing the remaining days which only countdown when actually used (twice as fast if both remaining characters use it of course). Dual character training already costs the same as a subscription without benefits of logging in that character simultaniously, so it should only be active when actually used.
Of course even simpler would be to split the subscription from trainingtime and the ability to log in a character simultaniously to others and have a single account with endless characters. Like so:
Account: free Per activated Characterslot (used on the slot to determine which is activated: 5 bucks Trainingtime 30 days used upon/per characterslot: 5 bucks Ability to login an additional character simultaniously: 5 bucks
This would of course shift around the benefits per given payment for multiple characters a bit, but my predictions would see the benefit on CCP's side. . |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:15:00 -
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Decaneos wrote:I'm sorry but i just don't see the point in this, if it was cheaper somehow to run the accounts of your alts on one account, say like 45 days for a plex or longer then i would see a point to this, otherwise why not just have 3 separate accounts that you can then play at the same time or not as you choose, after all it actually costs the same other that that initial fee. Because it cost far more to keep those characters active and available once you're finished with them
Say that you want to make a couple of research alts. All they're ever going to do is sit in a station and clog up the research slot queues. It takes about two months to get them to that state.
With triple training, that sets you back 4 PLEXes GÇö 2 months for 2 characters. After that, they are completely free. With separate accounts, it sets you back 400 PLEX GÇö 2 to start the two accounts, another 2 to complete their second month of training, and 296 to keep those two accounts active for the next 12 yearsGǪ You could conceivably reduce that cost by folding those characters back into the main account, but that still means you pay twice as much as if you used triple training (still 2+ù2 to keep the two accounts active for two months, and then another 2+ù2 to transfer the characters for a total of 8). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Miss Teri
Open University of Celestial Hardship
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:15:00 -
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Another nice thing you could add would be the ability to stop training.
That is, right now when you try to activate a skill queue and one of the other chars are training, you get the "Buy plex for dual training" dialog. It would be nice if one of the choices were "Pause training on other char". That way you wouldn't have to log out, log into alt, log out, log back in the other alt, start training. |
Phoenix Jones
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:24:00 -
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Ok so..
Account 1 with 3 characters.
I plex the account (1 plex) for my main. I add 1 plex to activate dual character training (1 plex) I add 1 MORE plex to activate Multiple character training (1 plex)?
So to run multiple character training on an account, plus plexing that account, would account to 3 plexes?
Not arguing, just want clarification.
To run the max amount of queues, you have to use two plexes (a plex per char), once a month.
Stabbers are totally broken
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Savira Terrant
Forsaken Identity Unchained.
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:31:00 -
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A plex per char, yes. This would amount to 3 plexes, if you do not pay your subscription otherwise. . |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:12:00 -
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This means that a lot of people use it. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:14:00 -
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Will we ever get the ability to log in more than one character on the same account at once (for PLEX)? |
Reginald Zebranky
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:14:00 -
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Wow, does CCP Xhagen have special training in obfuscation? Is there a special school you go to for that?
I like this new feature improvement; good job. It is pretty easy to understand despite Xhagen's best efforts. |
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CCP RubberBAND
CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:15:00 -
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Lair Osen wrote:"And come to think of it, I use another PLEX to extend the option to 60 days" Is this a new thing being changed from the current: only add time in the last 7 days option? Can we get more info about that?
Yes, this is new. You can now stack time as far into the future as you like. So you could pay 2 PLEX, to get Dual Character Training for 60 days, or 4 PLEX for 120 days.
Or 4 PLEX, to get 3 Training Queues going for 60 days (Your Main, Second Queue and Third Queue).
Miss Teri wrote:Another nice thing you could add would be the ability to stop training.
That is, right now when you try to activate a skill queue and one of the other chars are training, you get the "Buy plex for dual training" dialog. It would be nice if one of the choices were "Pause training on other char". That way you wouldn't have to log out, log into alt, log out, log back in the other alt, start training.
Agreed that this would be great. Not sure if we have time, but I'll raise this with the team, see how it meshes with current plans.
Tippia wrote:Well, that was inevitable, wasn't it? On a serious note, now that people will have yet another time-limited skill queue (per account) to keep track of, are you going to implement some clearer way to display exactly how much time is left on each multiple training payment? Yes, players could set calendar events and alerts, but it seems a bit silly that it isn't simply displayed on the account management page. After all, the system already knows when the end-date is GÇö it couldn't refuse renewals before the last 7 days if it didn't. So why not expose that data to the account holder?
We have tentative plans for some UI/UX work on the MCT. We are aware that the UX could use some love and have a few areas in the game we'd like to improve this.
So let me say, Yes we want to show how much time is left everywhere it makes sense.
When? Might be a bit later than we had hoped, but we'll certainly make an effort to get it out there.
Feel free to poke me on: Twitter |
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Luc Chastot
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:31:00 -
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Good to see we got at least a good thing with Odyssey and now it's being improved upon.
Let's hope Rubicon gets on top and releases 2 good things; so far we have 1. Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:33:00 -
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I've used dual training on a few accounts now. It's an excellent feature.
That said, I do agree with previous comments that 30 days is a bit of an under-sell. I would like to see 45 days per activation. I'm already paying for the account, and I can only play one toon at once. It seems a bit pricey for what's given for extended use. |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:21:00 -
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Why don't you just go all out and let us have more than 3 characters per account and simply let us log in to as many of them as we have active skill queues? I wouldn't mind having one account with say 5 characters out of which 3 are skilling and can be logged in to. Would mean I only had to remember one login. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Walley Wallington
Deep Space Logistics
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:42:00 -
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hmm, am I wrong? or is it not cheaper (at least for the first 3 months) to just create an alt account? and if I pay for it strictly with plex, I may as well do it on a 2nd account that I can play along side my main instead of the limitations of a 2nd char on the same account since there is no savings involved. |
Duser
Hello Kitty Online Adventures X13 Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:43:00 -
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Is it time to make som changes to the skil point system. It is old. And the system is not friendly to new players. That love spaceships game. In 2003 the skillpoints system was new and intresting. Now it is old and slow for new players.
In my opinion if you want new players in the game. Do somthing with the skillpoints system.
Duser.
TL;DR skillsystem is obsolete |
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