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Mydraal Ba'alzamon
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Posted - 2006.01.31 22:50:00 -
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Ok guys im a guy whos fed up with warping into a situation in a BS or BC, turning on my guns, collecting cargo containers.
Before RMR i used to own a little 0.3 system and used to rat there using a Crusader. It was awesome. The speed, the concentration required, it was like an action scene from a movie
Basically now i hear forum posts saying that interceptors have been nerfed badly. So i was thinking about good old assault frigates.
Im going to be using one to rat in 0.1 -> 0.3 systems. They are pretty quiet but you do get the occasional pirate, and i want to know...which one is the best?
Theres the gallante ships with their uber-sexiness and blasters
Amarr ships with mega guns and good tanks
Minnie ships with their sleek look and speed
Or caldari ships...which i dont like
So lets hear it guys, which one is the best for the situation ill be in and some good setups for it
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KompleX
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:03:00 -
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Interceptors got nerfed?
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Aeaus
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:05:00 -
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If you got a tackler a retribution can have a good tank and do extreme damage. Plus it's got the sexiness factor going for it.
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Mydraal Ba'alzamon
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:05:00 -
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Well i cant remember if they got nerfed but i vaugly remember someone saying there not worth flying anymore due to RMR changes.
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:07:00 -
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Try flying your crusader before throwing it away just because some dumbass said they got nerfed. _______________________________________________ Deadspace For Dead space!
Originally by: Oveur
To the nerfmobile!
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Atar
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:09:00 -
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Minmatars are nice
Jag can have quite an awesome tank with gistii eq but expensive Wolf you can cram
high: 4 200mm, a small nos, mid: ab, webber, low: 200mm plate, magnetic energized, active explosive hardener, and a t2 small repairer
for a nice fit, supose you can ditch the plate for a gyro http://home.comcast.net/~jasonn/atar1.jpg Custom sigs for 5mil - evemail me
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Mydraal Ba'alzamon
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:13:00 -
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Quote: try flying the interceptor
I will do that tommorow, i dont really see where they have been nerfed
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mydraal Ba'alzamon
Quote: try flying the interceptor
I will do that tommorow, i dont really see where they have been nerfed
thats because they havent been nerfed.
The only "nerf" is that they turn slower when you plate them now. _______________________________________________ Deadspace For Dead space!
Originally by: Oveur
To the nerfmobile!
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Mydraal Ba'alzamon
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:18:00 -
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bah dont use plates anyhow
think i shud still move to the AF though, need something with a little more punch
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Alex Kynes
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:20:00 -
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Well. Oversized plates became less viable, because they now add mass and thus reduce your acceleration and maneuverability. But I think that the added HP after RMR even that out. Opinions vary, however.
Ask me, 'ceptors got better after RMR.
/AK
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Epsillon
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Posted - 2006.02.01 00:13:00 -
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Unless you plan on training Assault Ships to level V, your Crusader will do more DPS if you can fit Medium Pulse Lasers (which means fitting a MAPC), and sort of gimping your ship.
You can fit some Heat Sink II's to your Retribution, which means reducing it's tank slightly, but it's not like you need to tank in an AF since you don't get hit much by NPC.
Both have pros and cons, you'll just need to decide which one you like best.
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OrangeAfroMan
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Posted - 2006.02.01 00:55:00 -
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Wolf/Jag rock
As you can probably tell by the siggy i fly my Jag w/ 280s =) If you go Wolf, go autos
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.02.01 01:44:00 -
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ishkur>harpy>wolf>retri>enyo>hawk>jag>vengeance
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Foulis
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Posted - 2006.02.01 02:45:00 -
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All AFs are excellent for PVE, just depends what you're up against. For me it's guristas, so kin and a little thermal, fits perfectly with gallente or caldari ships. I use an ishkur, 'cause it's just sexy with nos and an armor tank =D
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Asphyxia DeNoir
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Posted - 2006.02.01 06:02:00 -
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I have been soloing dual 950k BS spawns in 0.0 for some time now in my crusader.
I hardly think they're nerfed.
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Delnus
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Posted - 2006.02.01 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Delnus on 01/02/2006 10:06:35 I'm doing well taking on 0.0 NPC Bses in an Enyo. I've got four T2 Neutron Ss, a T2 armor rep, three damage mods, and normally either a cloak, or a Webber. It sucks in PvP, but it can take down 1.5mil spawns, and there frigs. Cant tank frigs, or cruisers, but it can tank three 1.5mils easly, and tank the NPC BSes support long enough to nuke 'em. The Ishkur works ok. About the same damnage as an Enyo, abit easyer to fit, but abit harder to use alot of the time. Remember kiddies, 2 light drones are better then 1 med drone.
Harpy is an AF I have not used ratting much. The one I got was nuked fairly quickly by a BS. >.< Its setup should have been able to take out 800ks, maybe a 1mil without much issue.
Other then that I have no knowledge of the power of AFs. There my favored ship type (I've got near 20 >.<), but I dont NPC enough to know much about 'em.
-- Delnas... if I can ever remember to click over to the right alt. >.<
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Mydraal Ba'alzamon
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Posted - 2006.02.01 15:44:00 -
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Im slightly more inclined towards the enyo at the moment, its just so damn sexy plus i know it can dish out a fair amount of damage, so hopefully those 950k Blood BS's should be reasonabley easy to take out
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.02.01 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kyozoku ishkur>harpy>wolf>retri>enyo>hawk>jag>vengeance
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Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Sever Aldaria
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Posted - 2006.02.01 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kyozoku ishkur>harpy>wolf>retri>enyo>hawk>jag>vengeance
I'm new. What is the main difference that makes iskur better than harpy in your opinion? They seem pretty much the same superficially.
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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.02.01 17:32:00 -
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Ishkur has drones. harpy doesent? But a harpy tanks better.... ---------------------------
Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
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Skyblue
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Posted - 2006.02.01 17:34:00 -
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harpy with gistii small booster and small cap injector FTW
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2006.02.01 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kyozoku ishkur>harpy>wolf>retri>enyo>hawk>jag>vengeance
more like..
enyo, ishkur, <-- all good, then retri(for pvp),hawk,jag,vengeance harpy, wolf,
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Elaina Cosengo
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Posted - 2006.02.01 19:02:00 -
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your kidding right blind, Harpy beats everything other than the enyo and ishkur. hehe i love the papers rock siccors thing with af's
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.02.01 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Benglada Ishkur has drones. harpy doesent? But a harpy tanks better....
"oh my I can tank this ishkur no pro..."
*NOS sound*
"OMFG WHERE'S MY CAP AND I HAVE 5 T2 WARRIORS KILLING MY ARMOUR!"
*pop*
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Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Chackle
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Posted - 2006.02.01 19:22:00 -
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Retribution ftw m8 :) You will not be dissapointed - Guarenteed!
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Scoobynet
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Posted - 2006.02.01 21:18:00 -
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With Ishkur AF level 5 we used to be able to take 10 heavy drones out to pve it took 5 trips out to engage and of course drone interface 5. Now 4 medium drones unleashed and orbitting at 30k with ab on mean few hits received and drones tear them apart, stopped trying solo level 4 in ishkur since rmr though as 10 heavies pack a punch that hurt
Ishkur is incredibly safe stand off platform
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Kular
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Posted - 2006.02.01 22:54:00 -
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Retribution is THE BEST NPCing ship there is period.
It can easily get dps around 200+ with t1 crystals still having a strong tank, and can tank an infinite ammount of cruisers/BS's as long as its orbiting 500m/s or faster.
I use my retri to do all Cosmos missions, and BS hunting in 0.0, also solos a 6/10 complex sometimes.
On a side note my alt is extremely interested in the ishkur For God, Empire, and Sarum! |
Karash Amerius
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Posted - 2006.02.01 22:58:00 -
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Crusader with 4x T2 Dual Light Beams is pretty powerful to be quite honest, and you dont have to gimp the rest of your setup.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: KompleX Interceptors got nerfed?
Maybe there was a special patch that changed their offense bonuses to tackling bonuses? One could only hope.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Skyblue
harpy with gistii small booster and small cap injector FTW
You don't need a cap injector with a gistii SB if you've worked on cap-related skills and have a cap recharger II or 2.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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