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Blod Bladelicker
Flashpoint Chaos Sexy Alliance
20
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Posted - 2013.10.24 15:49:00 -
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I hope the vargur/paladin aren't finished yet. The paladin animation is always visible, even when not in bastion which makes me kind of sad. I had hoped it would extend like the golem/kronos do. And the vargur needs something...more visible...The armor plates are quite hard to see. |
Shinzhi Xadi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2013.10.24 15:56:00 -
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Due to comments by other ccp members, that have already been linked in this thread, I also expected more. However, I'm not upset at the simpler changes the ships have, I don't mind calling them animations, but really ccp, they aren't "transformations".
As for the Paladin, which is the only marauder I'm interested in, I really do like the extra heavy armor plate look it has now. Really has the armored war machine look. I can't wait to see the final paint job.
To Bunnyvirus and the art team, I would like to say, We only expected more because of what we were told. I fully support you guys because you have shown us really wonderful 3d work in the past. The marauders are a bit shaky now, but they are not finished, and I hope people will to be patient. |
Vrenth
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
81
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:00:00 -
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CCP BunnyVirus wrote:Rikimaru Ichikawa wrote:CCP BunnyVirus wrote:m3talc0re X wrote:I hope they don't fix the Paladin's skin if that's not how it's supposed to be. Have the devs said this is wrong or does everyone just think they know. It looks awesome as is.
CCP, please don't listen to the tards. Please don't screw it up! The skin is wrong phew, thought it might belong to the blood raiders. j/k. But on another note, I'm not seeing much difference in the model itself. i'm assuming that you guys will be sticking with the classic blood red and gold of Carthum Conglomerate? Also, how far are the animations from being finished? i'm hoping they're a long way off so far as more animation would be nice for the Bastion effect. 50% of the ship had to be remodeled compared to the apoc and yes we stick to the red and gold colors. Regarding the animation, i doubt that much will change.
But these animations are not the transformations we were told the ships were getting. They are a weak, lazy shadow of an animation that I feel are only acceptable as a placeholder. I don't mean to offend the art team, but this is not in line with CCPs recent amazing art asset changes. The new ship models and effects all make these bastion animations look lowsy. I hope you reconsider their current iteration, as it is bad to call this their release state. |
m3talc0re X
Solar Revolutions Co.
173
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:02:00 -
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Yeah, I'm happy with the new animations, except for the part with the Kronos I mentioned. I mean, it's not bad, just coulda been better.
As for the Paladin, I liked the current skin it has on Sisi. Has this warrior paint look to it, or like a dazzle camo. |
Vrenth
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
81
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:03:00 -
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m3talc0re X wrote:Yeah, I'm happy with the new animations, except for the part with the Kronos I mentioned. I mean, it's not bad, just coulda been better.
As for the Paladin, I liked the current skin it has on Sisi. Has this warrior paint look to it, or like a dazzle camo.
Well enjoy your tiny glowing flaps... because apparently it's all they are doing. |
Shinzhi Xadi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:05:00 -
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OMG people, relax.
They aren't finished. The golem isn't finished, the paladin has wrong textures, the vargur doesn't seem to even have any textures and missing part of the model. The only one that looks mostly done is the kronos.
We still don't know if there will be any fancy lighting or some type of effect when they go bastion. Give the art guys a chance. |
Narcotic Gryffin
Bombin Busch Wookies
7
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:07:00 -
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New paint job= Brand New Ship. That's what CCP salesman told me |
m3talc0re X
Solar Revolutions Co.
173
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:07:00 -
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Vrenth wrote:m3talc0re X wrote:Yeah, I'm happy with the new animations, except for the part with the Kronos I mentioned. I mean, it's not bad, just coulda been better.
As for the Paladin, I liked the current skin it has on Sisi. Has this warrior paint look to it, or like a dazzle camo. Well enjoy your tiny glowing flaps... because apparently it's all they are doing.
I will :D |
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
576
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:14:00 -
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Golem and by extension the raven need a remodel ... they are too square, short and the wings need to be symmetrical ... birds aren't wonky so why are ships based on birds wonky and not even vaguely aerodynamic like a bird is Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Utremi Fasolasi
The Scope Gallente Federation
291
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Posted - 2013.10.24 17:18:00 -
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I just realized the Golem is missing the big arch shaped thing on the starboard wing thing with the antennas that the Raven has.. it makes it look empty and incomplete. |
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Denuo Secus
207
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Posted - 2013.10.24 17:34:00 -
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I don't understand all that moaning about animations and super special t2 ship models. They are subtle and that's cool. The models and textures are very nice too imo, the are up to date at least! Instead of even more sophisticated and expensive t2 ship animations I'd rather prefer remodeled t1 ships like cruisers or frigs. Compared to new hulls even the cool looking old hulls look outdated in terms of model details and quality imho. Not to speak of ships like the Bantam or the Moa.
I also would really love some more homogeneity in texturing. As mentioned before, the Bustard (for example) looks quite different compared to new Lai Dai ships like Golem or Manticore. I only can guess this is because of the older models. Same for Ishukone (Rhea vs. the other) or Khanid (grey Damnation vs. nice black Sacrilege). Check the front section and overall texture quality of the Harbinger and compare it to the Oracle...and so on. An update on this front would have much more impact for a lot of players. |
Shinzhi Xadi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2013.10.24 17:37:00 -
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Utremi Fasolasi wrote:I just realized the Golem is missing the big arch shaped thing on the starboard wing thing with the antennas that the Raven has.. it makes it look empty and incomplete.
To be honest, I have flown the golem in the past, nearly max skilled for it and the paladin. I stopped using it because of its crooked flight patten, and the asymmetrical look just got on my nerves. After a few dozen missions, I just couldn't stand to look at it. It didnt even fly on its center-line, the golems center of movement is off to the right side. When I heard they were redesigning it, I really was looking forwards to that. I hoped it would be symmetrical like the rokh, and had plans to start flying it again. However, after seeing what the new one is, its permanently scratched off my list of ships to use. |
Aglais
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
426
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Posted - 2013.10.24 17:46:00 -
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The Paladin is beyond incomplete here. I'm fairly sure that it's not supposed to be a Blood Raider Apoc trying to pass itself off as a T2 ship. |
Sarmatiko
1493
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:39:00 -
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CCP BunnyVirus wrote: The skin is wrong
This response is also related to Golem, isn't it? I've noticed that mask in red channel is missing and whole ship is painted black by accident?
ps: plz dont fix it -¥ |
m3talc0re X
Solar Revolutions Co.
173
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:03:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:CCP BunnyVirus wrote: The skin is wrong
This response is also related to Golem, isn't it? I've noticed that mask in red channel is missing and whole ship is painted black by accident? ps: plz dont fix it
Oh god, if the Golem is currently wrong, please for the love of God don't fix it! |
Kane Fenris
NWP
102
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:43:00 -
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i do like the mid segment of the golem but since the wings are "up" i feel there is something missing compared to the raven hull... i'd really like them to have something there ... |
m3talc0re X
Solar Revolutions Co.
175
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:54:00 -
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Yeah, I do miss all the sensor bits under the one side of the normal Raven model. |
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1256
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Posted - 2013.10.24 22:47:00 -
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My biggest problem with the Golem is that it looks small and toylike for some reason. The Raven just *looks* like a big ship to me. |
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:34:00 -
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Mmmmm, I wish the transformations were a bit more extravagant, this is your chance art team. I get it all of them sort of display some kind of cooling system but, you can go further than that. |
Mer88
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:04:00 -
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the problem with golem is its almost invisible in space. it looks great in stattion with all them lights, but if you are flying it, its like you are flying a shadow. It seriously could use more lights. |
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Shamus en Divalone
Dip Dip Potatoe Chip
6
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Posted - 2013.10.25 07:16:00 -
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Golem looks great and the animation works smoothly, Love the hull change too but this wont make the raven any different will it? |
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CCP BunnyVirus
C C P C C P Alliance
1048
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:56:00 -
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Shamus en Divalone wrote:Golem looks great and the animation works smoothly, Love the hull change too but this wont make the raven any different will it? no the raven stays the same 3D Artist |
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Rexxorr
Zero Corp Tax2
48
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:44:00 -
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Actually turn the Golem upside down and it looks quite good imo |
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
577
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Posted - 2013.10.25 19:27:00 -
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Christ you look at the awesome sleek and symmetrical Hookbill and you wonder at what point did CCP stop caring how awful the rest of the caldari ships look. Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us
277
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:48:00 -
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Don't like the golem. Looks like a fish with (broken) wings. I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
m3talc0re X
Solar Revolutions Co.
177
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:49:00 -
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I love it
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2304
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:41:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Also, it clearly shows 8 launchers, when it should only show 4.
Have you ever looked at any other ship before? Ships always have twice as many turrets on the model as they actually have, often oriented so that when the firing animation occurs, four of them fire no matter where the target is relative to the ship. Eight launchers, four top and four bottom, is correct.
Have you looked at the Raven and Scorpion models? Count the number of visible launchers on them. I'll wait.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2304
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:50:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Also, it clearly shows 8 launchers, when it should only show 4.
Have you ever looked at any other ship before? Ships always have twice as many turrets on the model as they actually have, often oriented so that when the firing animation occurs, four of them fire no matter where the target is relative to the ship. Eight launchers, four top and four bottom, is correct.
Yeah, I thought the Raven and Scorpion models had dedicated launcher hardpoints seperate from the turret hardpoints, and only exactly as many as are fitted to the ship. 4 visible launchers to 4 modules fitted, for example.
As I typed my original post to argue with you, I realized I don't actually remember whether or not it was like that. I'm pretty sure it is.
I don't know. I don't even care.
Looks good anyways. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Project XXVIII
Midnight Oil Irregulars.
3
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Posted - 2013.10.26 02:06:00 -
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FIrst - new colouration of the Golem is win,.. very awesome,.. run with it!
Second - The model for the Golem, while having some great new inovations in my opinion,.. also could use some tweaks.
The new "neck/head" has grown on me, but is there any way to somehow incorporate the old "beak" into the new "hammerhead", I like the idea, I just feel it could use a little more "umpft" up there.
Launcher locations for me are a win. The ones out on the "wings" earlier had blast effects showing through to the other side, current placement looks great!
I'm not a fan of the new "gull" style of wings. The model looks very "flat", and as it has already been stated, the "tech" under the starboard wing being removed leaves much to be desired. If you could bring back the "old" wings that'd be great.
Lastly, the forecastle that is situated just behind the triple band of orange. PLEASE get rid of that thing! Or at the very least make a replacement that is long and sleek, like the conning tower on an Akula Class Russian Submarine. The current one on the Golem/Raven looks like a lighthouse you'd find at Martha's Vinyard, and doesn't compliment the rest of the hull's lines. I want to mutter "Torpedoes in the water" in a voice like Marko Alexandrovich Ramius,.. not like some buttoned-down oxford WASP. |
Mer88
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.10.26 04:53:00 -
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i love the new golem design and the paint in the station. Out in the space, there is nothing but black panels cant see anything. Please for the love of god put some flood lights on it or at some windors with lights. the hull need more blinkers. otherwise everything else is awsome. |
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