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Spencer Dallocort
Twisted Alchemy Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.10.24 11:03:00 -
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Is any one having an issue with the mining laser range bonus not working. I'm flying a Procuer/Hulk with t2 laser's and t2 crystals and my alt is flying an Orca with all the mining mods and skills maxed out +_ mining forman mindlink. My max laser range is showing 24km but i can't lock onto rocks past 18km. This was working fine last week but now it's not. I've posted a bug report but i've heard nothing back, not even a "we've recieved your mail and will look into it." This applies to all types of rock in any belt i goto. Any idear's my mining mate's??? |
Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
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Posted - 2013.10.24 11:13:00 -
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You getting damped (or lose a pod with a targeting range implant)?
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Spencer Dallocort
Twisted Alchemy Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.10.24 11:18:00 -
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Well seeing as everything was fine last week and i've not upset anyone i dont see how i'm being Damped! It dosen't matter where i mine i have the same issue.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.10.24 11:37:00 -
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The range of the mods is fine obviously. What this seems to be is the Targeting Range of the mining ship itself.
Are you absolutely sure 'it was working earlier" ?
This happens with drones based from a mining ship. Their range may be 80k, but the ship itself cannot target till things are within 26K so the range is "useless". Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True ReligionGÇöseveral of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself, and cuts his throat if his theology isnGÇÖt straight. --Mark Twain |
Spencer Dallocort
Twisted Alchemy Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.10.24 13:57:00 -
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Yes i'm sure it was all ok last week. Have been mining fine up until now. It has to be a glitch. I get the increased mining amount bonus as in more ore per cycle but cant get the range it say's that i should be getting. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
670
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Posted - 2013.10.24 14:07:00 -
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It's not the laser range. You could get all 24km of the laser range, however your targeting range is cut to 18km and you can't activate a laser on an object you can't target. Hence the problem here is targeting range, not your Orca's mining range boosts
Have you changed ship types? Removed a sensor booser from you ship? Removed a targeting range implant? Removed a targeting range rig? Removed (or not activated) a targeting range increasing gang link?
Edit: That said, both hulk and procurer have a base targeting range of 22.5km. |
Robert Morningstar
Morningstar Excavations LTD Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
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Posted - 2013.10.24 15:36:00 -
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did you add a warp core stabilizer to your ship this mod has a penalty to targeting range
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Huttan Funaila
Terminal Radioactivity Spaceship Samurai
218
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Posted - 2013.10.24 15:41:00 -
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Warp core stabilizers reduce targeting range by 40-50% per stabilizer. Perhaps your long range targeting skill needs some training?
As mentioned above, the standard targeting range of a procurer/hulk is 22,500 m. http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=17480 |
Spencer Dallocort
Twisted Alchemy Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.10.24 15:43:00 -
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Yes i did add a wcs but that was weeks ago. Surely the range bonus from the orca would not be affected by that? |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.10.24 15:52:00 -
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You are confusing two different things: your targeting range (how far can you target an asteroid) and your mining laser range (how far can you shoot your laser, assuming you already have the asteroid targeted). The Orca boost increases your laser range, but does nothing to your targeting range. The WCSs reduce your targeting range. And you can't mine what you can't target. |
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Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
670
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:17:00 -
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Spencer Dallocort wrote:Yes i did add a wcs but that was weeks ago. Surely the range bonus from the orca would not be affected by that?
The range bonus is unaffected, but the Orca's range bonus only affects the activation range of the lasers. You have a reduced Targeting range, as in you can't target the asteroids. Think of the Orca's boost affecting the near-equivalent of Optimal or Falloff for mining lasers. It's just how far the lasers can reach to a locked target.
Drop the warp core stabs, your targeting range will increase back to normal and you'll again be able to target asteroids at ranges over 18km |
Spencer Dallocort
Twisted Alchemy Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:59:00 -
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Dropped the wcs and am now able to lock up rocks at full range. Thanks for all your help and sugestions. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2184
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:41:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:The Orca boost increases your laser range, but does nothing to your targeting range. Not true if the Orca pilot has Information Warfare trained, it is 2% / level to targeting range. |
Robert Morningstar
Morningstar Excavations LTD Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:38:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:The Orca boost increases your laser range, but does nothing to your targeting range. Not true if the Orca pilot has Information Warfare trained, it is 2% / level to targeting range.
drop in the bucket compaired to the wcs penalty
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
1963
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:07:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:The Orca boost increases your laser range, but does nothing to your targeting range. Not true if the Orca pilot has Information Warfare trained, it is 2% / level to targeting range.
If someone's piloting an orca without the basic leadership skills trained (or at least on the near future skill queue) they're doing it wrong :) Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2013.10.24 22:29:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:If someone's piloting an boosting orca without the basic leadership skills trained (or at least on the near future skill queue) they're doing it wrong :)
Fixed. My orca pilot's got no leadership skills beyond what was needed to sit in the ship at the time. But then, I don't mine. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
1963
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Posted - 2013.10.24 22:47:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:If someone's piloting an boosting orca without the basic leadership skills trained (or at least on the near future skill queue) they're doing it wrong :) Fixed. My orca pilot's got no leadership skills beyond what was needed to sit in the ship at the time. But then, I don't mine.
Good point.
If you're using it as a tanky hauler, then it's fine. (if it's there as mission/exploration/ganking support, then it should be boosting too ) Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
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